flamming_python wrote:.....................
So far all I see in East Ukraine are the oppressed thanking their oppressor for protecting them from their liberators.
^^This!!!
flamming_python wrote:.....................
So far all I see in East Ukraine are the oppressed thanking their oppressor for protecting them from their liberators.
flamming_python wrote:Neutrality wrote:flamming_python wrote:
Yeah I don't think so. Porko and the SBU are the very architects of their misery, the very founders of these nationalist battallions and it is they who caused the chaos that reigns in the country in the first place. Now the people ask him to step in and so something. They are incapable of thinking for themselves or rather unwilling - which means that they won't take much of anything into their hands and nothing serious will come of this.
People's lives and livelihoods are being threatened and I don't think people will simply accept it. That's just not how the Slavic spirit and mind is constituted. There's already a video of a guy addressing the masses (a leader) and people literally signing up for something. Reminds you of something? Exactly. That's how self defense militias were formed in Crimea before the little green men appeared. Ofcourse the same little green men won't appear now (very little chance) but suppose there's a large group of people who have had enough and not only in Chonhar, who will willingly bet his money on some kind of support NOT coming? Crimea is literally next door after all.
Yeah whatever. I'll believe it when I see it.
So far all I see in East Ukraine are the oppressed thanking their oppressor for protecting them from their liberators.
VARGR198 wrote:Oplot tanks produced for Thailand being deployed by Ukraine near Donetsk
https://twitter.com/shinobi22427722/status/681466709493026816
Godric wrote:VARGR198 wrote:Oplot tanks produced for Thailand being deployed by Ukraine near Donetsk
https://twitter.com/shinobi22427722/status/681466709493026816
dumb hahols how do they expect to be taken seriously as a reliable supplier if they are putting their customers hardware in jeopardy .... they are just going to damage their shattered defence industry even more
Amazing, over 8000 Russian 'soldiers' along with around 1000 pieces of equipment and not a single photo over the past few months. Bet NATO wishes it had that ability to make its forces vanish.franco wrote:Those dirty Russkies... 707 tanks now no wonder the glorious heroes can't win!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/22/one-fifth-of-dnrlnr-troops-are-regular-russian-army-forces-ukrainian-mod-infographic/
franco wrote:Those dirty Russkies... 707 tanks now no wonder the glorious heroes can't win!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/22/one-fifth-of-dnrlnr-troops-are-regular-russian-army-forces-ukrainian-mod-infographic/
Godric wrote:franco wrote:Those dirty Russkies... 707 tanks now no wonder the glorious heroes can't win!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/22/one-fifth-of-dnrlnr-troops-are-regular-russian-army-forces-ukrainian-mod-infographic/
I had to laugh at those figures the NAF are lucky if they have half that military hardware listed
Militarov wrote:Godric wrote:franco wrote:Those dirty Russkies... 707 tanks now no wonder the glorious heroes can't win!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/22/one-fifth-of-dnrlnr-troops-are-regular-russian-army-forces-ukrainian-mod-infographic/
I had to laugh at those figures the NAF are lucky if they have half that military hardware listed
Last time i checked NAF claimed they operate 126 tanks.
Godric wrote:Militarov wrote:Godric wrote:franco wrote:Those dirty Russkies... 707 tanks now no wonder the glorious heroes can't win!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/22/one-fifth-of-dnrlnr-troops-are-regular-russian-army-forces-ukrainian-mod-infographic/
I had to laugh at those figures the NAF are lucky if they have half that military hardware listed
Last time i checked NAF claimed they operate 126 tanks.
I am talking about LNR and DNR in total
Kiev (AFP) - Legendary Crimean winemaker Massandra, once a supplier to Russia's Tsar Nicolas II, has provoked the ire of Kiev by putting 13,000 vintage bottles up for auction on Tuesday.
Massandra described the wines, some dating back to 1935, as "pearls that have endured heavy ordeals including during the war".
One 1944 muscat "was produced in Yalta just after its liberation from German troops," it noted in a statement launching the sale being held at the winery and online.
The Massandra region, which belonged to the Ukrainian state until the 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia, is now under Moscow's control with the rest of the peninsula.
Kiev immediately reacted to the sale, threatening a criminal probe over "squandering Ukrainian heritage", said Olexandre Liev, a Ukrainian agriculture ministry official.
Massandra was already at the centre of a scandal in September when Russian President Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi reportedly enjoyed a $100,000 bottle of 240-year-old sherry.
Russian media said Massandra director Yanina Pavlenko, appointed by Moscow, uncorked the bottle herself.
It was one of only five extant bottles of Jerez de la Frontera of the 1775 vintage, part of a legendary collection established by Prince Mikhail Vorontsov, who ran Crimea as governor-general in the first half of the 19th century.
A sixth bottle of the same Massandra wine sold for 31,900 pounds (51,000 euros, $56,000) at Sotheby's in 2001. At the time, Ukraine's president authorised its sale, media reports said.
Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handed the strategically important Crimean peninsula to Ukraine in 1954 in what was then a largely symbolic move since Ukraine and Russia were both part of the USSR.
Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases.
The events unfolded against political chaos in Kiev, where Ukraine's ex-president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted by pro-Western protest leaders and fled.
Moscow later made Crimea and Sevastopol into two Russian regions, with the United States and the European Union unleashing sanctions over violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Liev warned: "We want Russian and foreign collectors to realise that they could face international sanctions for illegal economic actions in annexed Crimea" if they buy the prized wines.
PapaDragon wrote:
I think i know what Auslander is drinking these holidays...
''Kiev cries foul as historic Crimean wines go under hammer''
http://news.yahoo.com/kiev-cries-foul-historic-crimean-wines-under-hammer-211232457.html
Kiev (AFP) - Legendary Crimean winemaker Massandra, once a supplier to Russia's Tsar Nicolas II, has provoked the ire of Kiev by putting 13,000 vintage bottles up for auction on Tuesday.
Massandra described the wines, some dating back to 1935, as "pearls that have endured heavy ordeals including during the war".
One 1944 muscat "was produced in Yalta just after its liberation from German troops," it noted in a statement launching the sale being held at the winery and online.
The Massandra region, which belonged to the Ukrainian state until the 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia, is now under Moscow's control with the rest of the peninsula.
Kiev immediately reacted to the sale, threatening a criminal probe over "squandering Ukrainian heritage", said Olexandre Liev, a Ukrainian agriculture ministry official.
Massandra was already at the centre of a scandal in September when Russian President Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi reportedly enjoyed a $100,000 bottle of 240-year-old sherry.
Russian media said Massandra director Yanina Pavlenko, appointed by Moscow, uncorked the bottle herself.
It was one of only five extant bottles of Jerez de la Frontera of the 1775 vintage, part of a legendary collection established by Prince Mikhail Vorontsov, who ran Crimea as governor-general in the first half of the 19th century.
A sixth bottle of the same Massandra wine sold for 31,900 pounds (51,000 euros, $56,000) at Sotheby's in 2001. At the time, Ukraine's president authorised its sale, media reports said.
Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handed the strategically important Crimean peninsula to Ukraine in 1954 in what was then a largely symbolic move since Ukraine and Russia were both part of the USSR.
Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases.
The events unfolded against political chaos in Kiev, where Ukraine's ex-president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted by pro-Western protest leaders and fled.
Moscow later made Crimea and Sevastopol into two Russian regions, with the United States and the European Union unleashing sanctions over violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Liev warned: "We want Russian and foreign collectors to realise that they could face international sanctions for illegal economic actions in annexed Crimea" if they buy the prized wines.
Big_Gazza wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
I think i know what Auslander is drinking these holidays...
''Kiev cries foul as historic Crimean wines go under hammer''
http://news.yahoo.com/kiev-cries-foul-historic-crimean-wines-under-hammer-211232457.html
Kiev (AFP) - Legendary Crimean winemaker Massandra, once a supplier to Russia's Tsar Nicolas II, has provoked the ire of Kiev by putting 13,000 vintage bottles up for auction on Tuesday.
Massandra described the wines, some dating back to 1935, as "pearls that have endured heavy ordeals including during the war".
One 1944 muscat "was produced in Yalta just after its liberation from German troops," it noted in a statement launching the sale being held at the winery and online.
The Massandra region, which belonged to the Ukrainian state until the 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia, is now under Moscow's control with the rest of the peninsula.
Kiev immediately reacted to the sale, threatening a criminal probe over "squandering Ukrainian heritage", said Olexandre Liev, a Ukrainian agriculture ministry official.
Massandra was already at the centre of a scandal in September when Russian President Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi reportedly enjoyed a $100,000 bottle of 240-year-old sherry.
Russian media said Massandra director Yanina Pavlenko, appointed by Moscow, uncorked the bottle herself.
It was one of only five extant bottles of Jerez de la Frontera of the 1775 vintage, part of a legendary collection established by Prince Mikhail Vorontsov, who ran Crimea as governor-general in the first half of the 19th century.
A sixth bottle of the same Massandra wine sold for 31,900 pounds (51,000 euros, $56,000) at Sotheby's in 2001. At the time, Ukraine's president authorised its sale, media reports said.
Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handed the strategically important Crimean peninsula to Ukraine in 1954 in what was then a largely symbolic move since Ukraine and Russia were both part of the USSR.
Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases.
The events unfolded against political chaos in Kiev, where Ukraine's ex-president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted by pro-Western protest leaders and fled.
Moscow later made Crimea and Sevastopol into two Russian regions, with the United States and the European Union unleashing sanctions over violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Liev warned: "We want Russian and foreign collectors to realise that they could face international sanctions for illegal economic actions in annexed Crimea" if they buy the prized wines.
Some necessary corrections must be made to every Crimea-related piece coming from Yankistani MSM:
"Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases."
Crimea was NOT annexed - it seceded following the unconstitutional removal of the legitimate elected president after a violent takeover of parliament in defiance of an EU-backed compromise agreement.
Controversial? It seems that the referendum was only deemed "controversial" because the result didn't confirm to the wishes of the US Elite and their Eurotrash vassals.
Russia didn't send troops to Crimea as they were already there as part of the BSF basing agreements.
Typical yahoo bullshit...
flamming_python wrote:The referendum was controversial from the point of view of international law. Illegal in fact. And referendums are not usually conducted under a heavy military presence of what was still then a foreign country.
flamming_python wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
I think i know what Auslander is drinking these holidays...
''Kiev cries foul as historic Crimean wines go under hammer''
http://news.yahoo.com/kiev-cries-foul-historic-crimean-wines-under-hammer-211232457.html
Kiev (AFP) - Legendary Crimean winemaker Massandra, once a supplier to Russia's Tsar Nicolas II, has provoked the ire of Kiev by putting 13,000 vintage bottles up for auction on Tuesday.
Massandra described the wines, some dating back to 1935, as "pearls that have endured heavy ordeals including during the war".
One 1944 muscat "was produced in Yalta just after its liberation from German troops," it noted in a statement launching the sale being held at the winery and online.
The Massandra region, which belonged to the Ukrainian state until the 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia, is now under Moscow's control with the rest of the peninsula.
Kiev immediately reacted to the sale, threatening a criminal probe over "squandering Ukrainian heritage", said Olexandre Liev, a Ukrainian agriculture ministry official.
Massandra was already at the centre of a scandal in September when Russian President Vladimir Putin and ex-Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi reportedly enjoyed a $100,000 bottle of 240-year-old sherry.
Russian media said Massandra director Yanina Pavlenko, appointed by Moscow, uncorked the bottle herself.
It was one of only five extant bottles of Jerez de la Frontera of the 1775 vintage, part of a legendary collection established by Prince Mikhail Vorontsov, who ran Crimea as governor-general in the first half of the 19th century.
A sixth bottle of the same Massandra wine sold for 31,900 pounds (51,000 euros, $56,000) at Sotheby's in 2001. At the time, Ukraine's president authorised its sale, media reports said.
Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handed the strategically important Crimean peninsula to Ukraine in 1954 in what was then a largely symbolic move since Ukraine and Russia were both part of the USSR.
Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases.
The events unfolded against political chaos in Kiev, where Ukraine's ex-president Viktor Yanukovych was ousted by pro-Western protest leaders and fled.
Moscow later made Crimea and Sevastopol into two Russian regions, with the United States and the European Union unleashing sanctions over violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Liev warned: "We want Russian and foreign collectors to realise that they could face international sanctions for illegal economic actions in annexed Crimea" if they buy the prized wines.
Some necessary corrections must be made to every Crimea-related piece coming from Yankistani MSM:
"Russia formally annexed Crimea in March 2014 by a controversial referendum after sending special forces troops there to take over key institutions and military bases."
Crimea was NOT annexed - it seceded following the unconstitutional removal of the legitimate elected president after a violent takeover of parliament in defiance of an EU-backed compromise agreement.
Controversial? It seems that the referendum was only deemed "controversial" because the result didn't confirm to the wishes of the US Elite and their Eurotrash vassals.
Russia didn't send troops to Crimea as they were already there as part of the BSF basing agreements.
Typical yahoo bullshit...
It seemed balanced to me.
Crimea voted to secede and join Russia; legally speaking however it was an annexation by Russia of Ukrainian territory.
The referendum was controversial from the point of view of international law. Illegal in fact. And referendums are not usually conducted under a heavy military presence of what was still then a foreign country.
Neutrality wrote:flamming_python wrote:The referendum was controversial from the point of view of international law. Illegal in fact. And referendums are not usually conducted under a heavy military presence of what was still then a foreign country.
Overthrowing a legitimate president which was done by the Western Ukrainian criminal clan was also very controversial in my books. Not even to mention starting a war against the Eastern Ukrainian population, instead of announcing early elections.
We've been over this a hundred times already if not more. After ousting Yanukovich the first thing that should have happened IF these scumbags followed the constitution was to dissolute the parliament, pronounce a provisional government WITHOUT EXTRA POWERS SUCH AS DECLARING A WAR AGAINST ITS OWN POPULATION and announce early elections. They didn't play by the rules so whatever happened next is free game and Crimea's "annexation" is part of that.