zg18 wrote:I mean, Ottoman Egyptian period is classical example of colonial rule, Mameluks kept their privileges, Ottoman porte rarely kept viceroys for Egypt longer time in office to prevent new center of power besides Istanbul which meant no effective long term management, which meant in the end, Muhammed Ali of Egypt, famous Albanian Khedive, inherited the land that was the same in early 1800s as was in early 1500s when Ottomans defeated Mamluk Sultanate. Basically no progress for 3 centuries in Arab world, and we in Balkans complain about Ottomans
They at least here invested some money.
But the ottoman period is not when history of Middle east Began.
Turkey did not existed until the 1,500. Syria was part of Armenian Empire .then later was independent when it collapsed. Turkey was Armenia and bizantine lands. Syria is one of the oldest nations in the world. have been a colony many times but still exist in that location before Europe existed and was only a land of savages and tribes ,only Italy and hellenics greeks and macedonia and perhaps Egypt are older ,with the creation of Roman Empire. Persia was also older too. so you can count with one hand the nations that still today exist and comes from bible times.
Syria as a country even shows in the bible ,its existence. while Turkey is a relative more modern
middle east nation. Syria have at least 1,500 years older than Turkey ,and interestingly its
geographical lines today are close to the ones they had before Christianity began. that is more than 2,000 years ago. Actually Syria lost territories to Ottoman Empire/Turkey and to the artificially created Israel. The zones that Turkey have today were part of Armenia kingdom and Greeks ,and Muslins terrorist took control of the zones by mass scale genocide of Christians civilians in the millions. literary crucified like christ. This is well documented that Turkey muslins and earlier Ottomans made their empires by murdering millions of civilians women and children kicking them from their lands.. and the most amazing thing of all ,that they still today trying to do that with their support to ISIS.
So Syria have more rights than Turkey to live in those lands ,in fact turkey should return the lands they stole from Syria and Armenia by means of mass genocide of millions. Even the Nazis were horrified at Turks treatment of civilians , and the ambassador of germany to Turkey documented the mass genocides of turks against Armenian population , pure perverse they were. Armenian womens after raped ,were left naked and crucified with their children and left for months its bodies to rotten , like taken from an vampires ,demons movie.
violence images of armenians womens crucified naked by Turkey terrorist.
This is what Mustafa and Erdogan support , criminals with no respect for human civilization.
https://patriceayme.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/crucified-armenian-women.jpg
people talks about ISIS this and ISIS that.. but ignore that thats the mentality
of close to half of the muslin sunnies in middle east. Muhhamend himself did many crimes ,
and behead people but such things are largely not told in any western media. Like the son of Hamas told , the problem in the middle east and no media will say that ,is Islam ,
that it have an extremist God and prophet. The Son of hamas leader fully understand
why Muslins do terrorism and he claims is because their religion ISLAM is bipolar and contradictory. and their prophet was the biggest terrorist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peppSQC0XTA
Turkey is full of Roman edifications from the bizantine empire and the first Christian church
apparently began in Turkey.. when it was Armenia. So is a muslin nation occupying a Christian historical land. Since Islam came 600 years later after Christianity.and Muslins only got control of it through Genocides of millions of civilians women and children. It was said Turks are not originals from that zone and came from Asia.
Is the most evil nation ever existed in the world .Erdogan is more dangerous even more than Hitler ,because have the ISIS mentality ,but mixed with Power addiction and obssession to revive its ottoman empire. and if that was not enough is fully backed by Americans.
So i will not really complain if after turkey provokes a war with Russia ,Russia goes and nuke
Turkey and totally erase it from the world map.at least as a nation and split it in many parts ,and give Armenia ,Syria and greece back its lands. Turkey even invaded Cyprus and kicked through genocide of its army was that they managed to take half of it. And today they invading
IRAQ and Syria .. so is simply a purely evil nation ,that its leadership ,just like in Ukraine today ,have been carefully selected for its Ottoman Ambitions and their lack of values for human life.
and Neither kurds ,neither chechens have any legitimate claim to land for historical reasons ,since they were never a recognized independent Nation by any power. British Empire, and now US always used Turks as a weapon against Russia. So in case of any major war Russia should invade Ankara and split turkey in many parts. So no longer Americans or NATO can use them again against Russia.
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