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Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°176
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Slightly higher res version.
GarryB- Posts : 40436
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- Post n°177
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
The forward gun position is well forward... it should have excellent arcs of fire when it is fitted.
Vympel- Posts : 145
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- Post n°178
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Very large new image
Vympel- Posts : 145
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- Post n°179
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Don't know if this has been posted:
http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
Viktor- Posts : 5796
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- Post n°180
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:
http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
Could this be an export version?
Vympel- Posts : 145
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- Post n°181
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Viktor wrote:
Could this be an export version?
That's what I've been told.
Morpheus Eberhardt- Posts : 1925
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- Post n°182
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Viktor wrote:Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:
http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
Could this be an export version?
Should be a variant of proekt 22356, which is the export model of proekt 22350.
collegeboy16- Posts : 1135
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- Post n°183
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
is it because of the lack of AESA?Vympel wrote:Viktor wrote:
Could this be an export version?
That's what I've been told.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°184
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg
medo- Posts : 4343
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- Post n°185
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
TR1 wrote:http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg
It looks like all electronics are now installed on the ship. Only gun is missing.
calripson- Posts : 753
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- Post n°186
Date of Commission
When is the Admiral Gorshkov finally going to enter service ? This ship has taken a ridiculous amount of time to build.
GarryB- Posts : 40436
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- Post n°187
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
It will have formidable firepower and capabilities... no previous Russian or Soviet surface ship has had the same performance potential... and yes I am including the Kirov class in this... with 4 UKSK tubes the Gorshkov could carry up to 32 Onyx missiles... but it could also carry up to 32 x 2,500km range land attack missiles... which is something the Kirovs can't do... yet.
the electronics on board are AEGIS like in the form of SIGMA.
the electronics on board are AEGIS like in the form of SIGMA.
navyfield- Posts : 118
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- Post n°188
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...
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- Post n°189
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...
Burke is a cold war dinosaur used for gunboat diplomacy against the 3rd world . Gorshkov is a full on 21 century warship perfectly suiting russia's naval strategic needs. Not to mention practically all its weapons are massively superior to what the burke carries. No contest. BTW also forgot gorshkov's LO measures.
I have no idea how you see the point of comparing 2 ships that aren't even in the same class let alone era.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°190
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...
You are comparing a 4 thousand ton ship to a 10,000 ton ship.
Are you retarded?
Funny how the former has much better anti-ship capabilities too .
GarryB- Posts : 40436
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- Post n°191
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
The fact that a Cruiser is comparable to a Frigate is amusing... all the more so when the Cruiser comes up short in some areas...
partizan- Posts : 29
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- Post n°193
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Any recent news (or photos )about Kasatonov and Golovko?
TR1- Posts : 5435
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- Post n°194
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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- Post n°195
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
This may be a strange question to some of you, but why are the bridges of modern ships still in the middle/front of the ship itself? Would not it be more efficient to "push it back" leaving all the weapons on/in the bow? I feel like designers could increase the amount of firepower substantially by doing this. Especially in smaller ships like corvettes and frigates, including the Gorshkovs. If you are having a hard time visualizing this, think of a typical cargo ship. Of course the landing pad would remain behind the bridge, maybe with a CIWS system or two.
Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!
EDIT:
Seems like frigates and corvettes are playing a large role in Russia's navy to come. Sounds like a smart idea, versus going with lower numbers of more expensive ships (you should know who I'm talking about). The fact that each one of these ships has great firepower for their size should worry the US Navy.
Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!
EDIT:
Seems like frigates and corvettes are playing a large role in Russia's navy to come. Sounds like a smart idea, versus going with lower numbers of more expensive ships (you should know who I'm talking about). The fact that each one of these ships has great firepower for their size should worry the US Navy.
Last edited by Mike E on Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:40 am; edited 1 time in total
zg18- Posts : 888
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- Post n°196
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!
"Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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- Post n°197
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Bummer, hopefully that speeds along.
Morpheus Eberhardt- Posts : 1925
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- Post n°198
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
zg18 wrote:Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!
"Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun
The gun in the picture is an A-192; proekt 22350 will use the A-192M.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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- Post n°199
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Is there much of a difference?
Morpheus Eberhardt- Posts : 1925
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- Post n°200
Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov
Mike E wrote:Is there much of a difference?
The turret enclosures have different geometry. I am not aware of other differences but there maybe some.