Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+87
Nibiru
AlfaT8
miroslav
LMFS
littlerabbit
GarryB
dino00
verkhoturye51
The-thing-next-door
T-47
miketheterrible
walle83
Tingsay
Singular_Transform
Peŕrier
GunshipDemocracy
ZoA
Rowdyhorse4
Firebird
SLB
Rodion_Romanovic
George1
Isos
Kimppis
Luq man
PapaDragon
hoom
SeigSoloyvov
franco
Benya
Dennis_3003
VladimirSahin
Rmf
Project Canada
KiloGolf
Mirlo
Ned86
zardof
Honesroc
jaguar_br
max steel
ult
artjomh
wilhelm
marat
Tyloe
type055
Dima
Cyberspec
ExBeobachter1987
PutZin
AbsoluteZero
Werewolf
kvs
chicken
zg18
Stealthflanker
EKS
Flyingdutchman
T055
magnumcromagnon
Vann7
Mike E
partizan
navyfield
calripson
collegeboy16
Morpheus Eberhardt
Vympel
sepheronx
xeno
GJ Flanker
Arrow
medo
flamming_python
KomissarBojanchev
Mindstorm
TheArmenian
TR1
runaway
Andy_Wiz
IronsightSniper
Austin
Robert.V
Admin
Viktor
Russian Patriot
91 posters

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  TR1 Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:22 am

    Slightly higher res version.

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Bc0e64705d06576673b3ab42e7b0967d
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40436
    Points : 40936
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:08 am

    The forward gun position is well forward... it should have excellent arcs of fire when it is fitted.
    avatar
    Vympel


    Posts : 145
    Points : 149
    Join date : 2013-01-30

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Vympel Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:37 pm

    Very large new image
    avatar
    Vympel


    Posts : 145
    Points : 149
    Join date : 2013-01-30

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Vympel Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:07 pm

    Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Viktor Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:20 pm

    Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg

    Could this be an export version?
    avatar
    Vympel


    Posts : 145
    Points : 149
    Join date : 2013-01-30

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Vympel Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:33 am

    Viktor wrote:

    Could this be an export version?

    That's what I've been told.
    Morpheus Eberhardt
    Morpheus Eberhardt


    Posts : 1925
    Points : 2032
    Join date : 2013-05-20

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:49 am

    Viktor wrote:
    Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg

    Could this be an export version?

    Should be a variant of proekt 22356, which is the export model of proekt 22350.
    collegeboy16
    collegeboy16


    Posts : 1135
    Points : 1134
    Join date : 2012-10-05
    Age : 28
    Location : Roanapur

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  collegeboy16 Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:48 am

    Vympel wrote:
    Viktor wrote:

    Could this be an export version?

    That's what I've been told.
    is it because of the lack of AESA?
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  TR1 Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:22 am

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  medo Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:42 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg

    It looks like all electronics are now installed on the ship. Only gun is missing.
    avatar
    calripson


    Posts : 753
    Points : 808
    Join date : 2013-10-26

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Date of Commission

    Post  calripson Sat May 24, 2014 2:56 am

    When is the Admiral Gorshkov finally going to enter service ? This ship has taken a ridiculous amount of time to build.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40436
    Points : 40936
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  GarryB Sat May 24, 2014 12:19 pm

    It will have formidable firepower and capabilities... no previous Russian or Soviet surface ship has had the same performance potential... and yes I am including the Kirov class in this... with 4 UKSK tubes the Gorshkov could carry up to 32 Onyx missiles... but it could also carry up to 32 x 2,500km range land attack missiles... which is something the Kirovs can't do... yet.

    the electronics on board are AEGIS like in the form of SIGMA.
    navyfield
    navyfield


    Posts : 118
    Points : 69
    Join date : 2013-05-27

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  navyfield Sat May 24, 2014 8:15 pm

    compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...
    KomissarBojanchev
    KomissarBojanchev


    Posts : 1429
    Points : 1584
    Join date : 2012-08-05
    Age : 27
    Location : Varna, Bulgaria

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  KomissarBojanchev Sat May 24, 2014 8:57 pm

    navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...

    Burke is a cold war dinosaur used for gunboat diplomacy against the 3rd world . Gorshkov is a full on 21 century warship perfectly suiting russia's naval strategic needs. Not to mention practically all its weapons are massively superior to what the burke carries. No contest. BTW also forgot gorshkov's LO measures.

    I have no idea how you see the point of comparing 2 ships that aren't even in the same class let alone era.
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  TR1 Sat May 24, 2014 9:33 pm

    navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...

    You are comparing a 4 thousand ton ship to a 10,000 ton ship.

    Are you retarded?

    Funny how the former has much better anti-ship capabilities too Wink .
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40436
    Points : 40936
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  GarryB Sun May 25, 2014 12:15 pm

    The fact that a Cruiser is comparable to a Frigate is amusing... all the more so when the Cruiser comes up short in some areas...
    Morpheus Eberhardt
    Morpheus Eberhardt


    Posts : 1925
    Points : 2032
    Join date : 2013-05-20

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty New Picture

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu May 29, 2014 5:17 am

    New picture:

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 P0fmqN4
    avatar
    partizan


    Posts : 29
    Points : 34
    Join date : 2014-01-23

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  partizan Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:45 am

    Any recent news (or photos )about Kasatonov and Golovko?
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  TR1 Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:15 pm

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Attachment.php?item=392198&download=2&type=
    Mike E
    Mike E


    Posts : 2619
    Points : 2651
    Join date : 2014-06-19
    Location : Bay Area, CA

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:05 am

    This may be a strange question to some of you, but why are the bridges of modern ships still in the middle/front of the ship itself? Would not it be more efficient to "push it back" leaving all the weapons on/in the bow? I feel like designers could increase the amount of firepower substantially by doing this. Especially in smaller ships like corvettes and frigates, including the Gorshkovs. If you are having a hard time visualizing this, think of a typical cargo ship. Of course the landing pad would remain behind the bridge, maybe with a CIWS system or two.

    Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    EDIT:

    Seems like frigates and corvettes are playing a large role in Russia's navy to come. Sounds like a smart idea, versus going with lower numbers of more expensive ships (you should know who I'm talking about). The fact that each one of these ships has great firepower for their size should worry the US Navy.


    Last edited by Mike E on Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:40 am; edited 1 time in total
    zg18
    zg18


    Posts : 888
    Points : 958
    Join date : 2013-09-26
    Location : Zagreb , Croatia

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  zg18 Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:35 am

    Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    "Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 13-1023d
    Mike E
    Mike E


    Posts : 2619
    Points : 2651
    Join date : 2014-06-19
    Location : Bay Area, CA

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:41 am

    Bummer, hopefully that speeds along.
    Morpheus Eberhardt
    Morpheus Eberhardt


    Posts : 1925
    Points : 2032
    Join date : 2013-05-20

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:58 am

    zg18 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    "Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 13-1023d

    The gun in the picture is an A-192; proekt 22350 will use the A-192M.
    Mike E
    Mike E


    Posts : 2619
    Points : 2651
    Join date : 2014-06-19
    Location : Bay Area, CA

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:16 am

    Is there much of a difference?
    Morpheus Eberhardt
    Morpheus Eberhardt


    Posts : 1925
    Points : 2032
    Join date : 2013-05-20

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:35 am

    Mike E wrote:Is there much of a difference?

    The turret enclosures have different geometry. I am not aware of other differences but there maybe some.

    Sponsored content


    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 Empty Re: Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:38 am