Udaloy and Sovremennyy destroyers

GarryB wrote:According to the article above:

Now the Navy has eight ships of project 1155. "Marshal Shaposhnikov", "Admiral Vinogradov", "Admiral Panteleev" and "Admiral Tributs" are part of the Pacific fleet. "Vice Admiral Kulakov", "Severomorsk" and "Admiral Levchenko" are assigned to the Northern fleet. "Admiral Kharlamov" is in the sump. And "Admiral Chabanenko" - improved project 1155.1 - at the ship repair plant.

So four in the Pacific Fleet and three in the Northern Fleet and one at the repair plant...

mnztr wrote:http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2020/december/9448-russia-plans-to-upgrade-admiral-vinogradov-antisubmarine-ship.html

LMFS wrote:The destroyer of the Northern Fleet "Admiral Ushakov" will return to the Northern Fleet

The destroyer "Admiral Ushakov" will return to the Northern fleet, The Ministry of Defense has decided to repair the ship. Reported by "News" with reference to a source in the military.


The decision to repair the destroyer has already been made; engines, main components and mechanisms will be updated on the ship. Electronic systems will also be partially replaced. The ship's armament will not undergo any changes. The repair will be carried out at the Zvezdochka shipyard, where the ship is currently located. Commissioning of the repaired destroyer is planned at the end of next year.

Note that due to technical problems, "Admiral Ushakov" did not go to sea since 2018. Some time ago, the question of its complete write-off was raised.

"Admiral Ushakov" - Project 956 "Sarych" destroyer, one of the three remaining in the ranks of the Russian Navy. In addition to him, the Baltic Fleet carries out the service "Persistent", which is currently being repaired, and "Bystry", which is serving in the Pacific Fleet.

The ship was commissioned in 1994 under the name "Fearless", in 2004 it was renamed "Admiral Ushakov". The crew is 296 people. Autonomy - 30 days. Maximum travel speed - 33,4 knots. The cruising range at maximum speed is about 1350 miles. Able to carry a Ka-27PL helicopter. Armament: 2x2 AK-130/54, 4x6 30-mm ZAU AK-630, 2x4 Moskit-M anti-ship missiles, 2x1 Uragan-Tornado air defense missile systems, 2x6 RBU-1000, 2x2 torpedo tubes of 533 mm caliber.

https://en.topwar.ru/178404-jesminec-severnogo-flota-admiral-ushakov-vernetsja-v-sostav-severnogo-flota.html

walle83 wrote:...Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

PapaDragon wrote:

walle83 wrote:...Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

They don't want to bother with it

Even with this overhaul it doesn't have much time left

Isos wrote:Chinese are just keeping the hull. Everything else is switched for new stuff. Even thr doors should be changed.

Actually I don't understand why they don't just replace them with newly build type 55 destroyers. The modernization is so deep that it is similar to building a new ship.

walle83 wrote:It just seems strange that they could keep the old Smetlivy going for decads after it should have been retired, but the Sovremennys that were alot younger the cant keep going. The sov seems to have been a gapfiller from the beginning, not ment to last.

PapaDragon wrote:

walle83 wrote:It just seems strange that they could keep the old Smetlivy going for decads after it should have been retired, but the Sovremennys that were alot younger the cant keep going. The sov seems to have been a gapfiller from the beginning, not ment to last.

Workload

Smetlivy was good enough for Black Sea but would have never made the cut for North

walle83 wrote:

Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

I guess they just do this because there are not enough 22350 yet, probably they don't have big plans for the ship apart from filling the gap for some years...

They wouldn't be creating the angled UKSK if they weren't planing to use them.

It just seems strange that they could keep the old Smetlivy going for decads after it should have been retired, but the Sovremennys that were alot younger the cant keep going. The sov seems to have been a gapfiller from the beginning, not ment to last.

The Chinese dont seem to waste any platforms, everything from the early 90s and forward is getting overhauld and rearmed.

Smetlivy was good enough for Black Sea but would have never made the cut for North

Isos wrote:Chinese are just keeping the hull. Everything else is switched for new stuff. Even thr doors should be changed.

TASS wrote:The Pacific Fleet’s upgraded frigate The Marshal Shaposhnikov has test-fired the anti-ship cruise missile Uran for the first time, the fleet’s press service said on Thursday.

The-thing-next-door wrote:

walle83 wrote:

Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

Why would you ever replace Moskits with KH-35s?

The Moskit has the same range and is surface skimming while also being supersonic

walle83 wrote:

The-thing-next-door wrote:

walle83 wrote:

Wouldnt it be a easy fix to replace the moskits with Kh-35s like on the modifed Udaloy.

Why would you ever replace Moskits with KH-35s?

The Moskit has the same range and is surface skimming while also being supersonic

Well they are replacing the Moskit with the Kh-35 on the updated Tarantul 'Molniya' corvettes so why not on the destroyers

Well they are replacing the Moskit with the Kh-35 on the updated Tarantul 'Molniya' corvettes so why not on the destroyers

GarryB wrote:I would probably also mean if they only keep Moskits on the Sovs then the store of available missiles will last longer... though there was a cat type of ship that carried moskits too...