Udaloy and Sovremennyy destroyers

Isos wrote:...What I don't understand is that we saw pictures of angled UKSK yet they don't put them on Udaloys. I doubt they will put them on Slava since they won't upgrade them and small shis are getting 16 urans instead.

That angled UKSK never went beyond basic test phase, there will be no angled UKSK

Slavas will probably just get adapters for their missile tubes to fit Onyx/Kalibr same as Oscar SSGNs

PapaDragon wrote:

Isos wrote:...What I don't understand is that we saw pictures of angled UKSK yet they don't put them on Udaloys. I doubt they will put them on Slava since they won't upgrade them and small shis are getting 16 urans instead.

That angled UKSK never went beyond basic test phase, there will be no angled UKSK

Slavas will probably just get adapters for their missile tubes to fit Onyx/Kalibr same as Oscar SSGNs

They are working on it so it may end up on ships.

Why would you use an adaptaters for a Slava. Just switch for a new launchers. They are externally mounted it's easier than adaptating the old launchers for new missiles and can use 2-3 times more missiles.

On Oscars you need to cut the sub to switch for new launchers that's why they will use adaptaters which is less costly.

GarryB wrote:
I rather suspect angled launch tubes direct missiles in a specific direction which probably does not matter for the very long range land attack missiles, but for the anti sub weapons the ability to head in any direction at launch is probably quite valuable.

Udaloys have that problem with their old missiles. Modernization give them 2 vertical UKSK that can be used for anti sub missiles. Two angled could be used for ASM only.


Edit:

Indian Kashin (now retired) with BrahMos missiles instead of the old SS-N-2. The same could be done to the Slavas. Remove the huge canisters for the P-500/-1000 missiles and replace them with smaller launchers.

They already modernized one Slava with a new radar but didn't replace the launchers.

I think they will never be modernized deeply with new missiles. But replaced at some point by Gorshkovs.

Because the P-1000 is a pretty impressive missile.

I would love to see a hypersonic missile the size of the P-500/-700/-1000.

They throw the guy in the water to search for subs ?

The guy is the emergency backup. If the drive of the VDS fails he has to pull it in by hand!

Hole wrote:The guy is the emergency backup. If the drive of the VDS fails he has to pull it in by hand!

He goes to punch the enemy sub with his hands.

Isos wrote:They throw the guy in the water to search for subs ?

He volunteered as tribute

At Dalzavod, some details of the modernization of the BOD Admiral Vinogradov of Project 1155 were revealed

The modernization of the Project 1155 BOD "Admiral Vinogradov" with retraining as frigates will be carried out according to an improved project. This was reported by the press service of Dalzavod, revealing some details of the modernization.

According to a report on the company's official website, the Admiral Vinogradov BPK will undergo modernization according to a more advanced project than the Marshal Shaposhnikov, which has already been transferred to the Pacific Ocean fleet after the work done. The full scope of work planned for the "Admiral Vinogradov" has not been disclosed, but it is emphasized that all weapons on the ship will be replaced, with the exception of the AK-630 artillery mounts.

The message says that after the modernization, the ship, already re-qualified as a frigate, will receive Kalibr cruise missiles, the Paket-NK anti-submarine complex, modern electronic weapons, there are no other details. However, it is emphasized that after the work carried out, the "Admiral Vinogradov" will be twice as powerful as the one-type "Marshal Shaposhnikov".

Earlier, sources in the Russian defense industry said that the repair of "Admiral Vinogradov" should be completed by 2025.

The large anti-submarine ship (BOD) "Admiral Vinogradov" was laid down at the Baltic Shipyard Yantar on February 5, 1986, and launched on June 4, 1987. It entered the Pacific Fleet on May 1, 1989.

https://en.topwar.ru/190137-na-dalzavode-raskryli-nekotorye-podrobnosti-modernizacii-bpk-admiral-vinogradov-proekta-1155.html

"all but AK-630" would literally mean replacing Tor either

The guy said so!

Otvet advanced anti-submarine

Destroyer Admiral Levchenko will finish overhaul by the end of 2022

https://iz.ru/1268180/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/otvet-gotov-odin-iz-krupneishikh-korablei-vernulsia-v-stroi-spustia-vosem-let