Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
Quite a show once it went into the water. Image the ship captain was "full steam away from here"
Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
flamming_python wrote:.... And the Udaloy needs a better modernization than one which will only install 32 UKSK cells. It's not enough. 48 should be the minimum, but really 64.
franco wrote:Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.......
Quite a show once it went into the water. Image the ship captain was "full steam away from here"
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And the Udaloy needs a better modernization than one which will only install 32 UKSK cells. It's not enough. 48 should be the minimum, but really 64.
Well it becomes a torpedo and is very dangerous.
Once they remove the engines there should be just enough space for 32 and if they remove the hangar they should fit 48 no problem
However if they are going for 64 they will have to remove the bridge as well
So no problem there
Exactly, when were 100's of missiles used from ships since ww-2? One can go crazy in buying insurance and bunch of riders....GarryB wrote:
Exactly... engines are critical but even a helicopter hangar for two helicopters is more valuable most of the time than extra missiles.
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Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
The odd Marshal Shaposhnikov Kalibr 'failure' that happened last April 23, 2021, also happened to a Gorshkov-class frigate during its state factory sea trials.
In reality, it was part of the factory sea trials called a "throw test". It is to test the containers and the safe ejection of the missile as it is launched at a pre-determined launch height and let itself fall down into the sea. Apparently it is part of the ship's emergency release of missiles
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The_Observer wrote:Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
Turns out that it is actually NOT a failure. It's a saftey test. So much for all the Russia bashing that followed the initial video release yestarday.
The odd Marshal Shaposhnikov Kalibr 'failure' that happened last April 23, 2021, also happened to a Gorshkov-class frigate during its state factory sea trials.
In reality, it was part of the factory sea trials called a "throw test". It is to test the containers and the safe ejection of the missile as it is launched at a pre-determined launch height and let itself fall down into the sea. Apparently it is part of the ship's emergency release of missiles
@GrangerE04117 Provides good explanation and video of exact same test done on the Gorshkov here
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walle83 wrote:The_Observer wrote:Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
Turns out that it is actually NOT a failure. It's a saftey test. So much for all the Russia bashing that followed the initial video release yestarday.
The odd Marshal Shaposhnikov Kalibr 'failure' that happened last April 23, 2021, also happened to a Gorshkov-class frigate during its state factory sea trials.
In reality, it was part of the factory sea trials called a "throw test". It is to test the containers and the safe ejection of the missile as it is launched at a pre-determined launch height and let itself fall down into the sea. Apparently it is part of the ship's emergency release of missiles
@GrangerE04117 Provides good explanation and video of exact same test done on the Gorshkov here
Looks dangerous enough, the missile could easily have hit the ship on the way down. Why have it breaking up at such a low altitude, let it fly a 1km or so insted.
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walle83 wrote:The_Observer wrote:Isos wrote:Failed kalibr launch.
Turns out that it is actually NOT a failure. It's a saftey test. So much for all the Russia bashing that followed the initial video release yestarday.
The odd Marshal Shaposhnikov Kalibr 'failure' that happened last April 23, 2021, also happened to a Gorshkov-class frigate during its state factory sea trials.
In reality, it was part of the factory sea trials called a "throw test". It is to test the containers and the safe ejection of the missile as it is launched at a pre-determined launch height and let itself fall down into the sea. Apparently it is part of the ship's emergency release of missiles
@GrangerE04117 Provides good explanation and video of exact same test done on the Gorshkov here
Looks dangerous enough, the missile could easily have hit the ship on the way down. Why have it breaking up at such a low altitude, let it fly a 1km or so insted.
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Moscow. May 21st. INTERFAX - The large anti-submarine ship (BOD) "Admiral Vinogradov" of the Russian Pacific Fleet is planned to be sent for modernization, said the fleet commander, Admiral Sergei Avakyants.
"There is already a decision in principle to carry out repairs and modernization of the next Project 1155 ship - the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Vinogradov. At present, the elaboration of the future appearance of the ship is being completed," Avakyants said in an interview with the Russian Defense Ministry newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda.
"It is proposed to seriously increase and expand the composition of its strike missile armament, the task is to build up its air defense capabilities," he added.
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Large anti-submarine ship (BOD) "Admiral Chabanenko" of project 1155.1 - the only representative of this series - will return after a long repair with new capabilities. In particular, it will receive launchers for Kalibr cruise missiles and Zircon hypersonic missiles. Sources in the military department told Izvestia that the Defense Ministry has agreed on a plan for the modernization of the Admiral Chabanenko BMD, which is part of the Northern Fleet. According to the interlocutors of the edition, now there is an assessment of the terms that will be required to complete all the work. In 2014, "Chabanenko" was sent for repairs and since that time has been at the plant in the Murmansk region.
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The_Observer wrote:Admiral Chabanenko will receive launchers for Kalibr cruise missiles and Zircon
Large anti-submarine ship (BOD) "Admiral Chabanenko" of project 1155.1 - the only representative of this series - will return after a long repair with new capabilities. In particular, it will receive launchers for Kalibr cruise missiles and Zircon hypersonic missiles. Sources in the military department told Izvestia that the Defense Ministry has agreed on a plan for the modernization of the Admiral Chabanenko BMD, which is part of the Northern Fleet. According to the interlocutors of the edition, now there is an assessment of the terms that will be required to complete all the work. In 2014, "Chabanenko" was sent for repairs and since that time has been at the plant in the Murmansk region.
https://iz.ru/1188995/2021-07-06/rossiiskii-vmf-poluchit-raketnyi-mini-kreiser
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Big_Gazza wrote:...The remaining question therefore is will they stick with navalised Tor/Khinzal point-defense or upgrade to a longer range area-defense system like Redut?
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GarryB wrote:I think the opposite.
There is no value in getting it back into service quickly and finding it has a weaker air defence capacity than the corvettes it operates with....
It has no air defence capability at all now as it sits in port
PapaDragon wrote:Also, they may be further along on UKSK than we thought:
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Dorfmeister wrote:...Next time you take something from someone, don't forget to mention the source... Question of respect for the "work" which has been done.
Thanks!
Original tweet
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