The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

For the missing art work, furniture, dinner ware and silverware plus the orc treasury you need to check Timoshenko's maid's palaces in Kiev and Dubai, Porkie's palaces in Kiev, Geneva and London, Yushenko's domiciles in Dubai and London and Yanokovich's pockets.

Got a link to their love fest? Been busy as heck today and can't find it.

JohninMK wrote:They were only able to catch Tillerson in a corridor on the way out, either that or they've already sold off the smart furniture.

About all he said was (loosely summerised) "its Russia's fault and up to them to solve Minsk. Bye"

and trump at g20 said only Minsk accords is what needs to be implemented. So I think Ukies are turning to NATO cause they simply have little in US as support now. And many NATO countries are pissed at Kiev.

Additional costs for financing the defense of Ukraine in 2017

Presidential Decree No. 183/2017 of July 11, 2017 introduced the Decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine of July 10, 2017 "On Urgent Measures to Finance the Needs of National Security and Defense of Ukraine in 2017"



Having considered proposals to increase expenditures for the needs of national security and defense of Ukraine in 2017, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine decided:

1. To the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine:

1) to submit to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine proposals to the draft Law of Ukraine "On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine" On the State Budget of Ukraine for 2017 "(registration No. 6600 of June 21, 2017), which is being prepared for the second reading, Appointments for:

A) Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

At the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine in the amount of 352.838 million hryvnia, including for the payment of a lump sum in case of death (death) or disability of military personnel - 249.8 million hryvnia, for payment of utilities and energy resources - 100 million hryvnia, for training And participation of the national team of Ukraine in international sports competitions "Games of the Unconquered" - 3.0 million hryvnia;

At the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) in the amount of 4,000.0 million hryvnias, including the purchase of weapons and military equipment - 1 000.0 million hryvnia, purchase and manufacture of ammunition - 1 400.0 million hryvnia, construction of housing for servicemen - 1,000.0 million hryvnia, modern armament and military equipment - 600.0 million hryvnia (in particular, Con truktorskih work on the development of a new missile - 300.0 million hryvnia, the supply of armored BM "Hold" - 300.0 million hryvnia)

B) the National Guard of Ukraine:

At the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine for special funds in the amount of 230.0 million hryvnia;

At the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) for the purchase of weapons and equipment in the amount of 200.0 million hryvnia;

C) the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

At the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine in the amount of 16,994 billion hryvnia, including 8,386 million hryvnia for payment of public utilities and energy carriers, payment of a one-time allowance in the event of death (death) or disability of military personnel - UAH 8.608 million;

At the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) for the implementation of special-purpose expenses (operational and technical means, operational expenses) in the amount of 60 million Hryvnia;

D) Administration of the State Special Transport Service of Ukraine at the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine in the amount of 6,297 million hryvnias, including 5,297 million hryvnias for food provision for servicemen, 1.0 million hryvnia for medical provision of military personnel;

D) the National Police of Ukraine:

At the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine for payment of monetary security (with accruals) and purchase of fuel in the amount of 1,500.0 million hryvnia;

At the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) for the purchase of arms and equipment in the amount of 980 million hryvnias, including materially technical means - UAH 470.0 million, acquisition of uniforms for policemen - UAH 200.0 million, purchase of special means and personal protective equipment - UAH 100.0 million, purchase of special vehicles - 110.0 million UAH. Million hryvnia, armament of special purpose units - 100.0 million hryvnia;

E) Administration of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine:

At the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine for monetary support of military personnel in the amount of 160.0 million hryvnia;

At the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) for the purchase of weapons and equipment in the amount of UAH 700 million, including the acquisition of means of identification - 300 million hryvnia, the purchase of weapons and equipment - 100 million hryvnia, the implementation of measures for engineering and technical development of the border - 300 million hryvnia;

F) the State Service of Ukraine for Emergencies at the expense of the General Fund of the State Budget of Ukraine in the amount of 177 million hryvnias, including UAH 100.0 million for the provision of cash to personnel, and the increase in flight safety measures - 77.0 million hryvnia

Є) Security Service of Ukraine at the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine for cash support of servicemen and labor payment in the amount of 250.0 million hryvnia

G) Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine at the expense of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine for monetary support and reconnaissance measures in the amount of 100.0 million hryvnia,

H) the Administration of the State Service for Special Communications and Information Protection of Ukraine, and the account of the general fund of the State Budget of Ukraine in the amount of 259,427,000 UAH, including the provision of the functioning of the state system of special communication and information protection (strengthening the cyber security potential) - 250.0 million UAH, to provide government communication - 9.427 million hryvnia

I) the Department of State Protection of Ukraine at the expense of the special fund of the State Budget of Ukraine (confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corrupt and corruption-related offenses) in the amount of 60.0 million hryvnias, including for purchase Arms - 16.75 million hryvnia, ammunition - 14.65 million hryvnia, specialized equipment - 9.65 million hryvnia, radio communications - 18.95 million hryvnia, and) Ministry of Justice of Ukraine at the expense of the general fund of the State rstvennogo Ukraine's budget by the budget program "Implementation of Sentences institutions and bodies of the State Penal Service of Ukraine" in the amount of 400.0 million hryvnia.


The bmpd comment. Thus, the Ukrainian authorities continue the bad practice of attempts to finance procurement programs in the field of national defense not from the budget, but from various "special funds" that have to be replenished in all sorts of fantastic ways - by implementing excessive Property of the Ministry of Defense, but now at the expense of "confiscated funds and funds received from the sale of property confiscated by a court decision for corruption and corruption-related Her offense "(that is, from the semi-mythical" billions of Yanukovych "). It is not surprising that over the past years, in no case has funding from "special funds" been received on any significant scale, but the Ukrainian authorities are persistently engaged in this kind of self-deception and fraud.

So in this decree, P. Poroshenko, due to the "special fund" from "Yanukovych's money", it is planned to allocate 6 billion hryvnias for additional purchases and allocations, including 4 billion hryvnias - for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, and through this, to finance such Significant programs, such as the creation of ammunition production, the development of the Vilka missile complex and the purchase of the Oplot tanks.

Source: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A//bmpd.livejournal.com/2726442.html

Remind me not to smoke whatever it is the orcs, including the chief orc, are smoking.

Can you imagine all that money getting collected and then distributed without that gang all lining their pockets first

The fighting during the first half of 2017 was, by all accounts, as intense as during the past year, despite the total news blackout, and the relative lull during the past weeks, there are leaks that show how costly this war is. Every day dozens of people get killed, wounded and maimed, but it all happens off screen.

One month ago, the hospitals near the front were so crammed with wounded that they had to ferry them as far back as Odessa, from previous analysis of observed patterns, for this overflow to happen there must be scores of casualties every day, week after week. Perhaps as much as a hundred daily casualties.

https://inukraine.eu/2017/06/24/22-wounded-soldiers-ato-delivered-a-special-flight-to-odessa/


The war is invisible, but not only the hospitals are full, but at the cemeteries keep digging new graves.



2017-07-13 11:37


Antimaydan Ukraine , Antimaydan Kiev , News of Novorossia , Antimaydan in Kharkov , Antimaydan Dnepropetrovsk


Despite the fact that the war in the Donbas has passed into the stage of positional battles, the Ukrainian occupants do not lose less.

This is evidenced by the hysterical appeals of "volunteers" from Dnepropetrovsk or Kharkov hospitals periodically appearing on the Internet, Russian Spring writes.

And yesterday the Kiev citizen posted on his page in the social network pictures that clearly demonstrate that "there is no loss."

Yuri Chopenko showed fresh graves of Ukrainian servicemen at the Forest Cemetery in Kiev. You can imagine what is happening in the cemeteries of Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkiv and Zaporozhye regions closest to the Donbass.

Forest cemetery - the largest on the Left Bank of Kiev, is located behind the Forest residential area.




The losses of Ukrainian security forces are measured in thousands. The authorities of Ukraine specifically keep silent about the losses, so as not to create panic in Ukrainian society, and most importantly not to pay "combat" to the families of the victims in the so-called. "ATO". Because of the mass drunkenness in the Donbass among the APU - almost daily die "Ukrainian heroes", but they are written off as "deserters".

They can exercise all they want. In the end, NATO has no post there and in the end, their infrastructure would be toast in a matter of minutes from attacks from Crimea if a war breaks out.

This is how moderate Ukrainians(Ukrainian FSA???) deal with their ATO veterans who feel entitled to being treated like heroes.

https://twitter.com/SERG__ROTENBERG/status/886563484334526465

By Putin's example? Poroshenko fires 25 high ranking officials

July 16, 2017 - Fort Russ News -
Politnavigator - translated by Inessa Sinchougova



They say copying is the highest form of flattery...

Based on the results of an investigation, 25 managers of public enterprises in the Ukrainian defense industry have been dismissed on charges of corruption.

This was stated by Petro Poroshenko at the Lvov armour plant.


"We have prevented the potential theft of 631 million Ukrainian hryvna. As Commander in Chief and the President of Ukraine, I will not let anyone rob the army and will not allow anyone to 'warm their hands' on the supplies to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, "- Poroshenko said.

President Putin is known for publicly firing corrupt officials, which works in favour of his popularity among the public. The difference is that Russia's president enjoys an overwhelmingly high public support anyway, which is not something the Poroshenko regime can claim in the Ukraine.

Source: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/07/by-putins-example-poroshenko-fires-25.html

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"We have prevented the potential theft of 631 million Ukrainian hryvna." - Really? I'm sure that he alone have stolen way more money so far.

JohninMK wrote:Suppose it had to happen, but don't they realise the PR gift when 'Mal' means 'bad' in English? BadRussia??? and what about LNR?

Liveuamap@Liveuamap 1h1 hour ago

Chief of DNR group Alexander Zakharchenko announces the creation of a state of Malorossiya.   https://liveuamap.com/en/2017/18-july-chief-of-dnr-group-alexander-zakharchenko-announces …   via @XSovietNews

https://dninews.com/article/alexander-zakharchenko-announces-creation-new-state

Basically a new Ukrainian state was declared for all of the present Ukrainian regions to join in opposition to the present Ukrainian state.
LPR and DPR are it's first members.
Malo means Little (Russia), a play on an old term for Ukraine and Ukrainians.

It is quite annoying to see all these other forces who have no real authority over Russia or Ukraine, make demands to tell Russia what they should and shouldn't accept.

If Russian authorities had any balls, the answer would be simple: "You guys seem to forget how you handled Kosovo. Well, all we can say is we will accept what the people want". That alone should put them in a position to shut their fucking mouths at least for a bit.

For some odd reason, Russia seems to act too pussy like when dealing on international conventions.

US blatantly steals property, places missiles at Russias borders and even states their exercises are to counter Russia (if that isn't as blatant as it gets) while bitching and moaning about Belarus-Russian exercises, and as well as trying to blame Russia for US' failure to uphold treaties like INF and stating they will just leave it because Russia Russia Russia.

And what does Russia do?

Nothing really. They still didn't bother to take US property in Russia and kick out diplomats. They still let Novorussian civilians die without even standing up and stating "They made their decision and we will back them", and they just keep crying on the news about US doing this or that and saying " we will talk more with them".

WTF already. There is no reason to be this much of a pussy. Countries much less power and capabilities like Turkey will do what it feels like, and gets away with it. What does Russia do? Fuck, they are giving up their own people to be fodder for nothing.

miketheterrible wrote:It is quite annoying to see all these other forces who have no real authority over Russia or Ukraine, make demands to tell Russia what they should and shouldn't accept.

If Russian authorities had any balls, the answer would be simple: "You guys seem to forget how you handled Kosovo.  Well, all we can say is we will accept what the people want".  That alone should put them in a position to shut their fucking mouths at least for a bit.

For some odd reason, Russia seems to act too pussy like when dealing on international conventions.

US blatantly steals property, places missiles at Russias borders and even states their exercises are to counter Russia (if that isn't as blatant as it gets) while bitching and moaning about Belarus-Russian exercises, and as well as trying to blame Russia for US' failure to uphold treaties like INF and stating they will just leave it because Russia Russia Russia.

And what does Russia do?

Nothing really.  They still didn't bother to take US property in Russia and kick out diplomats.  They still let Novorussian civilians die without even standing up and stating "They made their decision and we will back them", and they just keep crying on the news about US doing this or that and saying " we will talk more with them".

WTF already.  There is no reason to be this much of a pussy.  Countries much less power and capabilities like Turkey will do what it feels like, and gets away with it.  What does Russia do?  Fuck, they are giving up their own people to be fodder for nothing.

Is not in the interest of Russia to list what is being done. Not in the political, not in the diplomatic, not in the military interest.

Then you will have to do the effort to identify what is being done by Russia. It is not a big effort. I'm sure you can see yourself most of the things.

As a Basque I really would like to have a big friend like Russia next to our borders. Unfortunatelly the countries of our area supported a fascist dictatorship instead (today Spain is the second country in the world with highest number of disappeared people after Cambodia, and the current gouvernment still rejects to find them). The Russians of Donetsk and Lugansk are lucky with the Russian protection.

True, showing your cards and being overtly blunt isn't good for Russia. But recent example with the US stealing Russian property, Russia still hasn't responded.