Russian Navy: Status & News #2

mack8 wrote:Well well well, the new BDK, called "Priboy"!
http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/930072.html

wilhelm wrote:Nice, Mack.

Not being a Russian speaker, is this simply a design concept, or is it likely this will form a concrete basis for a domestic vessel class to replace the Mistrals?

It has an interesting hull shape below the waterline.

Model amphibious assault ship "Surf" on the forum "Army-2015"

nortwolf_sam
June 16th, 22:09

   Very interesting shape of the underwater part. Not easy in the video with the first demonstration Shoigu was not shape it is the underwater part. What I was talking about ak_12 some time ago. However I have some predictions about what is a clean ship and the affinity with the "Leader" I was wrong too.

   As reported 16.06.2015, the Office of the press service and information of the defense Ministry, amphibious assault ship (UDC) project "Surf", which can be an alternative to the French helicopter carrier "Mistral", presented in the form of layout on the stand of the Main command of the Navy of Russia in the framework of the forum "Army-2015".

   Characteristics inherent in the project indicate that the ships of the project "Surf" will be able to successfully solve the problems for reception, carriage and disembarkation of a sea landing.

   In a unique project UDC, which develops Nevskoe design Bureau, will not be repeated technical practices and systems that already exist on the French ship. On the "Surf" everything will be domestic: airborne-forming means, and the air wing, and weapon systems.

   In the Main command of the Russian Navy expects that for the needs of the Russian fleet to be built at least four such ships.
   The decision to build the ship will be taken after the completion of his project.
   Presumably, UDC "Surf" will have a displacement of 14 tons with a draft of 5 m. the Ship can reach speeds up to 20 knots. The range of this sailing will be 6 thousand nautical miles, and the autonomy of the campaign is 60 days.

   On Board will accommodate up to 8 anti-submarine and amphibious-landing of helicopters Ka-27 and Ka-52K. The ship can carry up to 60 units. UDC will carry four landing craft of the project M or two project M.
   UDC will be able to provide its air defense with developing sea-based Armor-M".

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   new version:

   Nevskoe design Bureau has denied reports that it has designed an analogue of the French "Mistral".
   "This is bullshit. No analogues of "Mistral" we have not built and will not build," he quoted dp.ru the words of the General Director Sergey Vlasov Bureau representative.
   She noted that about "Surf" hears for the first time.

George1 wrote:the helicopters that carry will be only those shown in photo? They seem too less

Dima wrote:

George1 wrote:the helicopters that carry will be only those shown in photo? They seem too less

There are 6 spots for helos same numbers like the Mistrals and two elevators but probably smaller ones compared to elevators at the stern we see on Jaun Carlos and Mistrals.

During the international military-technical forum ‘Army 2015’ the "Glider-T" underwater robotic vehicle was presented, the press service of the Joint instrument-making corporation reported.

The new robot submarine with its torpedo-like appearance can navigate without the Glonass navigation system. "Glider-T" can operate in autonomous mode for up to 180 days and find its route without human intervention.

The robot will be able to determine the type of ships passing by just by their sound emissions. It will also be able to simulate as a decoys; obstructing enemy sonars devices. Simply put, it will trick other submarines and smart torpedoes.

Further still, developers of the “Glider-T” claim that the robot will be able to patrol and carry out water sampling to determine contamination levels. It will also be able to take photographs of various marine objects.

The robotic vehicle will also be able to transmit information to computer equipment’s via GSM-modem, radio or satellite communications.

The "Glider-T" was developed by the Moscow Design Bureau "Kompas," constructed out of heavy-duty and lightweight material and is sea water and oil resistant.

It is also equipped with an innovative engine, allowing the vehicle to move underwater completely unnoticed to modern detection devices.

PapaDragon wrote:We don't have a tread for naval robots/drones... dunno

New Russian Underwater Spy Robot to Trick Submarines, Evading Detection

mack8 wrote:Well well well, the new BDK, called "Priboy"!

The project involves the basing of 16 helicopters and six landing craft project 11770 "Serna" or six air assault craft project 03160 "Raptor".

According to the draft, the ship will be armed with a gun mounts AK-176M and AK-630M-2 "Duet" and naval air defense systems "Pantsir-M"

Источник: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/lavina-udk/ ВТС «БАСТИОН» A.V.Karpenko

Lavina will have a full load displacement of 24,000 tons, as opposed to 21,300 tons for the French-designed ship. It will also have a maximum speed of 22 knots, compared to 19 knots for the Mistrals, two of which were ordered by the Russian Navy four years ago.

http://rt.com/news/268504-mistral-replacement-avalance-lavina/

Cyberspec wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:We don't have a tread for naval robots/drones... dunno

New Russian Underwater Spy Robot to Trick Submarines, Evading Detection

We should probably start one up....the 'Glider-T' looks interesting

Cyberspec wrote:

There's some speculation that it will be able to beach itself directly onto a beach to land marines and vehicles....sort of a combination between a helicopter carrier and a Tank Landing Ship.

Cyberspec wrote:...................................

Lavina will have a full load displacement of 24,000 tons, as opposed to 21,300 tons for the French-designed ship. It will also have a maximum speed of 22 knots, compared to 19 knots for the Mistrals, two of which were ordered by the Russian Navy four years ago.

http://rt.com/news/268504-mistral-replacement-avalance-lavina/

There's some speculation that it will be able to beach itself directly onto a beach to land marines and vehicles....sort of a combination between a helicopter carrier and a Tank Landing Ship.

Cyberspec wrote:
The "Priboy" is apparently a separate project more akin to the Ivan Rogov class (but with an enlarged helicopter wing)

TheArmenian wrote:Raptors in Novorossisk.

Do you plan the development of the project 1239 – missile hovercraft? Whether it will be upgraded or replaced by another project?
— Will the continuation of this unique project, ultimately will decide whether the customer – Navy. We are ready though now to propose a draft of a new hovercraft vessels of skeg type: relevant design studies in the field of weapons and power plants we have already carried out proactively. Taking into account the operating experience of existing ships – "Forests" and "Sandstorm" – in the black sea fleet we have made some simplifications of the project, which will reduce technical risks and the cost of construction, increase the reliability of the vehicle.

GarryB wrote:

there is overwhelming evidence that Russia is once again embarking on an aggressive naval shipbuilding program.

They haven't even produced a brand new vessel the size of a Frigate... but their program is aggressive... how many carrier groups does the US have vs Russia? A carrier group screams aggression and clearly shows which "side" is the aggressor.

I didn't bother reading any further in either article... I read those articles during the cold war... it seems they are still the only articles written in the west.  

franco wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Raptors in Novorossisk.

By years end there are to be 8 of these plus the 2 BG-12 look-a-likes (10% smaller and copies of the Swedish boat) in the Black Sea Fleet.

GarryB wrote:The photo is taken from above... other boats will see it from level and a patrol boat that is designed to be coastal and even used in rivers will often have land behind it.

In this case however the camouflage likely shows it is a coastal/river, rather than practical.

MOSCOW, June 26 — RIA Novosti. Shipyard "Sevmash" are already obliged to prepare a production base for the construction of nuclear submarines (NPS), the fifth generation, design work on the submarines underway, said Friday the commander in chief of the Russian Navy Admiral Viktor Chirkov.
Previously commander reported that submarines of the fifth generation will be different from today's unified modular platforms, integration of weapons and the presence of robotic systems.
"Sevmash" are already obliged to prepare production capacities for the construction of nuclear submarines of the fifth generation," — said teals.
He added that construction work on the fifth-generation submarines underway, and technical requirements of the Main command of the Navy in this matter is dictated by a comprehensive approach to the development of submarine forces.
"We need low noise, maneuverable boats with higher settings of stealth and possessing powerful weapons," — said teals.
Sevmash is the largest Russian company, which builds nuclear submarines. During its 75-year history, the plant has built 132 nuclear submarines — more than any other shipyard in the world.

max steel wrote:  

TR1's not that bad, He's informative, just has different opinions to others on the board.