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Russian Navy: Status & News #2
Austin- Posts : 7617
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Viktor , it is lack of good SSN that is worrying , Russia anounce a lot of thing only to be limited by funding and industry.
I think they are to accept that their naval component will be at significant disadvantage so have to focus on ICBM fleet mobile and silos
I think they are to accept that their naval component will be at significant disadvantage so have to focus on ICBM fleet mobile and silos
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Funding wont be a problem unless the dickhead finance minister had his way, where he would collectively screw both Russia MiC and 1/4 industrial output, while drastically increasing poverty.
As well, all we have to do is go a few years back to prove you wrong:
- Russia announced 5th gen jet, people denied its existence, and here we are today with PAK FA.
- Russia announced a new tank. And Armata was shown.
- Russia announced a new bomber. Already comm equipment has been made for just it.
The list goes on. The navy is in trouble, at least USC. But they could build new SSN's by using various technologies they currently have.
Edit: let us also add that Russias budget this year was $75B or so, which is $35B more than India's while India is funding for SSN development, even though it has no previous experience or already made components like Russia does, when Russia already makes the powerplants as an example. While on Indias $40B budget, they are also purchasing billions on western aircrafts too, while Russia isnt importing aircrafts.
OK Austin.....
As well, all we have to do is go a few years back to prove you wrong:
- Russia announced 5th gen jet, people denied its existence, and here we are today with PAK FA.
- Russia announced a new tank. And Armata was shown.
- Russia announced a new bomber. Already comm equipment has been made for just it.
The list goes on. The navy is in trouble, at least USC. But they could build new SSN's by using various technologies they currently have.
Edit: let us also add that Russias budget this year was $75B or so, which is $35B more than India's while India is funding for SSN development, even though it has no previous experience or already made components like Russia does, when Russia already makes the powerplants as an example. While on Indias $40B budget, they are also purchasing billions on western aircrafts too, while Russia isnt importing aircrafts.
OK Austin.....
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http://news.usni.org/2015/07/17/china-russia-planning-20-ship-naval-exercise-in-the-sea-of-japan-in-august
China and Russia will conduct their largest joint Pacific exercise in August near Japan, Russian Navy planners announced on Friday.
Announced last year, Joint Sea Exercise 2015 will occur in both the Sea of Japan and off the cost of Russian region of Primorsky — about 250 miles away from Japan.
“These maneuvers will for the first time involve a joint amphibious assault drill in Russia’s Primorsky territory with the participation of carrier-based aircraft,” Russian Pacific Fleet spokesman Roman Martov said, reported the Russian TASS wire service.
“Representatives of the headquarters of the Russian Pacific Fleet and the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China have carried out major work for the planning of the Chinese warships’ visit to Vladivostok port, the cultural program, sports competitions and all the tactical events of the sea, land and air parts of the maneuvers.”
Since 2011, Russia and China have conducted regular joint exercises.
Russian and Chinese ships in the Pacific in 2014. China Daily Photo
Russian and Chinese ships in the Pacific in 2014. China Daily Photo
Last year was the largest series of exercises, the Russian Navy and the PLAN drilled with 14 surface ships, two submarines, aviation assets and special operation forces (SOF), according to Chinese media.
The Pacific drills follow the first ever joint Chinese-Russian exercise in the Mediterranean sea earlier this year. The much smaller exercise featured three Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) and six Russian.
In November, said Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said the combined military-to-military between China and Russia partnership was growing.
“We believe that the main goal of pooling our effort is to shape a collective regional security system,” Shoigu said.
“We also expressed concern over U.S. attempts to strengthen its military and political clout in the [Asia-Pacific Region].”
China and Russia will conduct their largest joint Pacific exercise in August near Japan, Russian Navy planners announced on Friday.
Announced last year, Joint Sea Exercise 2015 will occur in both the Sea of Japan and off the cost of Russian region of Primorsky — about 250 miles away from Japan.
“These maneuvers will for the first time involve a joint amphibious assault drill in Russia’s Primorsky territory with the participation of carrier-based aircraft,” Russian Pacific Fleet spokesman Roman Martov said, reported the Russian TASS wire service.
“Representatives of the headquarters of the Russian Pacific Fleet and the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China have carried out major work for the planning of the Chinese warships’ visit to Vladivostok port, the cultural program, sports competitions and all the tactical events of the sea, land and air parts of the maneuvers.”
Since 2011, Russia and China have conducted regular joint exercises.
Russian and Chinese ships in the Pacific in 2014. China Daily Photo
Russian and Chinese ships in the Pacific in 2014. China Daily Photo
Last year was the largest series of exercises, the Russian Navy and the PLAN drilled with 14 surface ships, two submarines, aviation assets and special operation forces (SOF), according to Chinese media.
The Pacific drills follow the first ever joint Chinese-Russian exercise in the Mediterranean sea earlier this year. The much smaller exercise featured three Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) and six Russian.
In November, said Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said the combined military-to-military between China and Russia partnership was growing.
“We believe that the main goal of pooling our effort is to shape a collective regional security system,” Shoigu said.
“We also expressed concern over U.S. attempts to strengthen its military and political clout in the [Asia-Pacific Region].”
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Austin wrote:Viktor , it is lack of good SSN that is worrying , Russia anounce a lot of thing only to be limited by funding and industry.
I think they are to accept that their naval component will be at significant disadvantage so have to focus on ICBM fleet mobile and silos
Lack of good SSN? What are you smoking.
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kvs wrote:Austin wrote:Viktor , it is lack of good SSN that is worrying , Russia anounce a lot of thing only to be limited by funding and industry.
I think they are to accept that their naval component will be at significant disadvantage so have to focus on ICBM fleet mobile and silos
Lack of good SSN? What are you smoking.
I mean the 4th Gen SSN , Compare the number of Virginia and Astute in Service of NATO compared to Yasen
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I mean the 4th Gen SSN , Compare the number of Virginia and Astute in Service of NATO compared to Yasen
Except that if you want to compare attack subs you also have to include Kilo, Improved Kilo and the soon to be introduced Lada class vessels... now I agree they lack long range and high speed of a SSN, but in shallow coastal waters they are actually rather more capable than a big unwieldy nuke.
More importantly they are working on a new 5th gen sub that will likely be smaller and relatively cheaper, so it makes no sense to make dozens of current gen SSNs... or more accurately SSGNs now while they are still expensive and the economy is under economic attack from the west... in 10 years time when BRICSA is stronger and hopefully Russia has sorted its stuff out and it can make 3-4 5th gen subs for the price of one Yasen... that is when they should make more attack subs... but they will never need as many as NATO has.
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Russian Navy will replenish the "Yuri Ivanov" intelligence ship to monitor the US missile defense system
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The Black Sea Fleet has formed crews for new ships
Latest patrol ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the project 1135.6 "Admiral Grigorovich", "Admiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" will be staffed exclusively by military personnel under contract, said the Fleet Commander Admiral Alexander Vitko.
SEVASTOPOL, July 23 - RIA Novosti. The crews for the new frigates, missile ships and submarines, which will join the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) of Russia in the near future, have already been formed and trained, he told reporters on Thursday Fleet Commander Admiral Alexander Vitko.
"The Black Sea Fleet has been completed the formation of new patrol ships crews Project 1135.6" Admiral Grigorovich "," Admiral Essen "and" Admiral Makarov "- said Vitko.
He added that all ships will be manned exclusively by military personnel under contract.
According to the commander, also formed and began training the crews of small missile ships "Serpukhov" and "Green Dol", built for the Black Sea Fleet in Tatarstan, and advanced diesel submarines "Novorossiysk", "Rostov-on-Don", "Stary Oskol" and "Krasnodar".
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150723/1143532381.html&usg=ALkJrhj-pnEJfIqAb1xOPQ-Edf_YYyj17Q
Latest patrol ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the project 1135.6 "Admiral Grigorovich", "Admiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" will be staffed exclusively by military personnel under contract, said the Fleet Commander Admiral Alexander Vitko.
SEVASTOPOL, July 23 - RIA Novosti. The crews for the new frigates, missile ships and submarines, which will join the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) of Russia in the near future, have already been formed and trained, he told reporters on Thursday Fleet Commander Admiral Alexander Vitko.
"The Black Sea Fleet has been completed the formation of new patrol ships crews Project 1135.6" Admiral Grigorovich "," Admiral Essen "and" Admiral Makarov "- said Vitko.
He added that all ships will be manned exclusively by military personnel under contract.
According to the commander, also formed and began training the crews of small missile ships "Serpukhov" and "Green Dol", built for the Black Sea Fleet in Tatarstan, and advanced diesel submarines "Novorossiysk", "Rostov-on-Don", "Stary Oskol" and "Krasnodar".
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150723/1143532381.html&usg=ALkJrhj-pnEJfIqAb1xOPQ-Edf_YYyj17Q
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Nice
In the "star" laid the latest ship to transport arms
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In the "star" laid the latest ship to transport arms
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Rússia to start building 5th generation subs by 2020
And:
And:
Sevmash shipyard is on schedule to deliver overhauled nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov to the Russian Navy in 2018, the company’s general director said.
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I don't see how this is even remotely close to possibly. Yasen's won't all be delivered by then, same with the Borei... And A NEW generation sub will?Kyo wrote:Rússia to start building 5th generation subs by 2020
Possibly they are suggesting a more advanced Yasen/Borei.
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Russia Discloses Number of Warships It Has Throughout the World's Oceans
More than eighty Russian Navy ships of various classes currently remain on duty at sea, according to the country's Defense Ministry.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that more than 80 naval ships of various classes are currently on mission in different areas of the World Ocean, including the Atlantic, the Mediterranean Sea and the Gulf of Aden. The 'World Ocean' is the interconnected system of Earth's oceanic waters, comprising all of the oceans and seas of the world.
The information was disclosed in a Defense Ministry press service message dedicated to Russia's Navy Day.
"Right now, the scheduled tasks in different areas of the World Ocean are being implemented by more than eighty warships and support vessels of various classes. Intense preparations are underway in the run-up to the research vessel Admiral Vladimir's unprecedented voyage to Antarctica, due to begin between November and December 2015. The goal is to deal with the oceanographic and hydrographic research of water and the coastal areas of Antarctica," the press service said.
In particular, more than ten warships and supply vessels are now on duty in the Mediterranean as part of Russia's permanent naval task force in this area, according to the Defense Ministry.
The press service also said that the group of warships led by the guards missile cruiser Moskva of the Russian Black Sea Fleet is currently carrying out a number of tasks in the South Atlantic.
Also on duty are Russian naval ships in the Gulf of Aden and near the Horn of Africa, where they are tasked with ensuring civilian navigation security.
In addition, the press service said that the two diesel-electric submarines of Project 636, the Novorossiysk and the Rostov-on-Don, will enter service when they join the Russian Black Sea Fleet later this year.
"The headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet's submarine squadron has been established in the city of Novorossiysk; the crews were trained earlier at a Russian naval center," the press service said.
Meanwhile, a new generation of ships is reportedly being built for the Black Sea Fleet; they will include six patrol ship class units capable of escorting ships, containing sea pirates and maintaining stationing site safety.
Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry pledged to respond in kind to the modernization of US warships, and equipped them with missile defense systems.
The ministry said that Moscow will take appropriate technical retaliatory measures, adding that since the beginning of 2010, the Pentagon has purchased 200 interceptor missiles, and will buy 50 more before the end of this year.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150726/1025059668.html#ixzz3gzaLHCmr
More than eighty Russian Navy ships of various classes currently remain on duty at sea, according to the country's Defense Ministry.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that more than 80 naval ships of various classes are currently on mission in different areas of the World Ocean, including the Atlantic, the Mediterranean Sea and the Gulf of Aden. The 'World Ocean' is the interconnected system of Earth's oceanic waters, comprising all of the oceans and seas of the world.
The information was disclosed in a Defense Ministry press service message dedicated to Russia's Navy Day.
"Right now, the scheduled tasks in different areas of the World Ocean are being implemented by more than eighty warships and support vessels of various classes. Intense preparations are underway in the run-up to the research vessel Admiral Vladimir's unprecedented voyage to Antarctica, due to begin between November and December 2015. The goal is to deal with the oceanographic and hydrographic research of water and the coastal areas of Antarctica," the press service said.
In particular, more than ten warships and supply vessels are now on duty in the Mediterranean as part of Russia's permanent naval task force in this area, according to the Defense Ministry.
The press service also said that the group of warships led by the guards missile cruiser Moskva of the Russian Black Sea Fleet is currently carrying out a number of tasks in the South Atlantic.
Also on duty are Russian naval ships in the Gulf of Aden and near the Horn of Africa, where they are tasked with ensuring civilian navigation security.
In addition, the press service said that the two diesel-electric submarines of Project 636, the Novorossiysk and the Rostov-on-Don, will enter service when they join the Russian Black Sea Fleet later this year.
"The headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet's submarine squadron has been established in the city of Novorossiysk; the crews were trained earlier at a Russian naval center," the press service said.
Meanwhile, a new generation of ships is reportedly being built for the Black Sea Fleet; they will include six patrol ship class units capable of escorting ships, containing sea pirates and maintaining stationing site safety.
Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry pledged to respond in kind to the modernization of US warships, and equipped them with missile defense systems.
The ministry said that Moscow will take appropriate technical retaliatory measures, adding that since the beginning of 2010, the Pentagon has purchased 200 interceptor missiles, and will buy 50 more before the end of this year.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150726/1025059668.html#ixzz3gzaLHCmr
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Today is Navy Day.
Celebrations in all fleets.
Putin is attending a beautiful naval display in Kaliningrad.
You can see it live on Ruptly.
Sadly, the Sevastopol event had an incident: an unsuccessful launch of a Rastrub anti-submarine missile by the frigate Ladny.
Celebrations in all fleets.
Putin is attending a beautiful naval display in Kaliningrad.
You can see it live on Ruptly.
Sadly, the Sevastopol event had an incident: an unsuccessful launch of a Rastrub anti-submarine missile by the frigate Ladny.
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Deputy PM: Putin approves addendums to Sea Doctrine
Amendments to Russia’s Naval Doctrine have been necessitated by NATO’s eastwards expansion and Crimea’s rejoining Russia, Dmitry Rogozin told journalists
BALTIISK /Kaliningrad region/, July 26. /TASS/. Russia's President Vladimir Putin has approved addendums to the Sea Doctrine, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Sunday.
"The document was presented to the president [today], and the president said today he has approved the Sea Doctrine," Rogozin told TASS.
Amendments to Russia’s Naval Doctrine have been necessitated by NATO’s eastwards expansion and Crimea’s rejoining Russia, Rogozin told journalists.
"The reasons necessitating the adoption of a new doctrine are rooted in the changing international political situation and Russia’s strengthening as a great naval power," he said.
"Special focus is laid on the Atlantic and Arctic directions. Attention to the Atlantic stems from NATO’s eastwards expansion and the Alliance’s building infrastructure near our borders. The second consideration is Crimea’s and Sevastopol’s rejoining Russia and the task of their swiftest integration into the economic life of our country. The third task is to resume the presence of our fleet in the Mediterranean," he said.
Amendments to Russia’s Naval Doctrine have been necessitated by NATO’s eastwards expansion and Crimea’s rejoining Russia, Dmitry Rogozin told journalists
BALTIISK /Kaliningrad region/, July 26. /TASS/. Russia's President Vladimir Putin has approved addendums to the Sea Doctrine, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Sunday.
"The document was presented to the president [today], and the president said today he has approved the Sea Doctrine," Rogozin told TASS.
Amendments to Russia’s Naval Doctrine have been necessitated by NATO’s eastwards expansion and Crimea’s rejoining Russia, Rogozin told journalists.
"The reasons necessitating the adoption of a new doctrine are rooted in the changing international political situation and Russia’s strengthening as a great naval power," he said.
"Special focus is laid on the Atlantic and Arctic directions. Attention to the Atlantic stems from NATO’s eastwards expansion and the Alliance’s building infrastructure near our borders. The second consideration is Crimea’s and Sevastopol’s rejoining Russia and the task of their swiftest integration into the economic life of our country. The third task is to resume the presence of our fleet in the Mediterranean," he said.
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Not 100% sure this belongs here, but here I go:
Check out flot(dot)com (I can't post links yet), the swedes found a sunken midget sub. Port holes are closed shut so they're already speculating crew is dead. Forums are trolling by saying it's an old Som class from the start of the 20th century. Swedes are guessing it's something from the 80s/90s.
Post-sleep update: Looks like it is the old Som, apparently it isn't even a new discovery, divers had run into it a few years earlier.
She looks in amazing state for something that has been on the ocean floor for 99 years. I would love to see her raised, but since she's a war-grave that's unlikely to happen.
Check out flot(dot)com (I can't post links yet), the swedes found a sunken midget sub. Port holes are closed shut so they're already speculating crew is dead. Forums are trolling by saying it's an old Som class from the start of the 20th century. Swedes are guessing it's something from the 80s/90s.
Post-sleep update: Looks like it is the old Som, apparently it isn't even a new discovery, divers had run into it a few years earlier.
She looks in amazing state for something that has been on the ocean floor for 99 years. I would love to see her raised, but since she's a war-grave that's unlikely to happen.
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Maximmmm wrote:Not 100% sure this belongs here, but here I go:
Check out flot(dot)com (I can't post links yet), the swedes found a sunken midget sub. Port holes are closed shut so they're already speculating crew is dead. Forums are trolling by saying it's an old Som class from the start of the 20th century. Swedes are guessing it's something from the 80s/90s.
Post-sleep update: Looks like it is the old Som, apparently it isn't even a new discovery, divers had run into it a few years earlier.
She looks in amazing state for something that has been on the ocean floor for 99 years. I would love to see her raised, but since she's a war-grave that's unlikely to happen.
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RIP so the submariners.
LOL to the Swedes.
''Sweden Finally Gets Their Russian Sub (But It's 100 Years Old)
A mini submarine found by divers off the coast of Sweden is a WWI Russian submersible that sank as far back as 1916, not recently as was previously thought, according to the Icelandic company IXplorer ocean research.''
http://sputniknews.com/world/20150728/1025132561.html
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I would have rubbed it in a lot more, but then again, I am quite a douche...
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''Russian Divers Offer to Help Sweden Study 1916 Submarine Sunk in Baltic Sea
Russian divers stand ready to conduct a joint expedition with Sweden on a submarine wreck recently found in the Baltic Sea, the head of the underwater search project A Bow to the Ships of the Great Victory said Tuesday.''
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150728/1025127028.html
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I in principal do not like to answer in any of topics, but i must said this, First your analyze about Russian SLBM is wrong, second, Russians always in every moment 24/h/7 365 day in year have 2 to 3 Combined Subs one whit Classic Ballistic missiles, one whit Cruise missiles whit Nuclear war heads and one protective hunter killer subs, in position that they just need to fired they salvo and all is over And fourth fact which many people totally forget is...How many USA Megalopolis City's you need to hit to induce total chaos in whole USA, 4, New York, San Francisko, L.A, and Chicago, How many City's in Russia you must hit to make same psycho effect beside Moscow and St.Petersburg, Russia is so wast country that they have villig in which probably they wouldn't know that WWIII is started, I Russia people can dislocated it self in many of Russia parts, which never ever will be targeted because simply they wasn't exist like important targets. USA have not such commodity , they can try whit Alaska, but problem is that Alaska will be hitted hard between first, My point is that Russian nation have much bigger chance to survive in some meaningful number first strike then Americans have, and about Mentality,what is need to common Russian survive and do not go crazy and Vice Verse, is almost non comparable, Hollywood was made 4 movies about "Famous" Black Out in New York which was last some 70 Hours "those tragedy, Those Human sacrifice" in those "terrible times" when AC/DC stop to exist for whole two and half days....is the best and vivid expression about "toughness"of average USA citizen in non expected circumstances .So all thos so called "superiority in numbers " mean nothing when each side have enough Nuc's to decimate human population, does that will be done whit 100 war heads by 8 Mgt or 200 Hundreds of 4Mgt is totally irrelevant such as your analyze.Sorry nothing personal..Austin wrote:flamming_python wrote:Austin wrote:Good Article on how Russian Submariner forces pair up , it seems they wont last much again numerically superior US Subs and ASW unit , just managing to destroy 25 % US naval forces and loosing most combat capability in bargain.
Another interesting aspect is protection of SSBN forces with conventional submarine of Kilo types
Theater of one actor - Underwater US Navy feels superior even on our shores
That's where the restart of modernized Mi-14 production and the modernization and re-introduction of existing Mi-14s comes in.
These helicopters will be able to protect Russia's waters at greater ranges from land than the current land-based Ka-27s can.
For further out, virtually all of the latest corvette/frigate/destroyer designs have helicopter pads where Ka-27s ASW variants will be based (in some cases Ka-31s or Ka-27s CSAR variants will be based on them instead).
There's a new class of helicopters to replace the Ka-27 family & derivates apparently under development.
Il-38s have recently been receiving upgrades to the Il-38N standard.
Later on they will probably be replaced by the proposed Il-114MP aircraft.
The Tu-142s will stay put for the time being; I should note that some of these are not old aircraft at all; they were being built all the way up to 1994; with the M3 variant being built since 1985.
All Tu-142s are supposed to be upgraded to M3M standard by 2020.
In the longer-term, they may well be replaced by PAK-DAs, or perhaps something else entirely; like a variant of the MS-21 or Tu-201.
The article doesn't mention the Be-12s; probably since they have only started to be returned to service last year and are only in service in the Black Sea Fleet - but they are another component of ASW.
Right now they are undergoing repairs at the Beriev plant in Taganrog and in a recently-ressurected facility in the Crimea.
They will probably be in service for another 5 or so years; at which point the question of their replacement will become very accute.
Originally, the A-40 was designated for their replacement, however the MoD later rejected the A-40 program; at which point there was talk of the Il-38s replacing them. However, the Il-38 being a similarly old aircraft that's no longer in production, not in service in large numbers, and not to mention without any amphibious landing capabilities - this plan never made much sense.
The latest news suggests that the MoD has rethought its decision and decided it needs the A-40s after all as Be-12 replacements (http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140719/1016726869.html), and possibly to replace some Il-38Ns in other fleets too.
I am more worries on submarine count.
The article only assumes that US submarine is the danger but I would even add Brits and French in there after all they are nato.
Russia faces a formidable SSN force when you count the Virginia's/Seawolf/LA , Brits Astute Class SSN and the new French SSN , they combined eventually makes for around 40 Top Notch SSN.
Compare to Russian Submarine Fleet of upgraded 6 Akula , 2 Sierra-2 , 4 Oscar and 7 Yassen.
Barring Yassen I wouldnt bet my life on the others in facing a formidable SSN fleet.
I am not sure even if the Sierra-2 are getting upgraded , any confirmation ?
The Kilos are just good for Coastal Brown Water , I doubt Kilo can operate below Arctic Ice so protecting the SSBN via Kilo does not make sense , Russian SSBN operate only below Arctic.
I can just hope that the Akula/Sierra/Kilos would end up defending the Surface Fleet/SSBN while Oscar and Yasen would be sent to hunt NATO CBG and SSBN Fleet.
The best case possible for Russia is all the SLBM would be launched by Borei before NATO/US SSN would hunt and Kill her down.
I think Akula/Sierra/Oscar would be swallowed by US/NATO SSN/ASW fleet while the Yasen has best chance of surviving but how long is any bodys guess.
The Goal would be to get all the SLBM/ICBM out of the silos ASAP before catastrophe strikes , which is like 5-10 minutes a nuclear strike is initiated on Moscow.
Most NATO SSBN operate near Russian waters Barrents etc that needs less than 10 minutes for their SLBM to reach critical target.
So 3-5 minutes is what the Stragetic Forces and SSBN forces have after that there is just disaster and hoping and praying Dead Hand could do something
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2
PapaDragon wrote:
I would have rubbed it in a lot more, but then again, I am quite a douche...![]()
''Russian Divers Offer to Help Sweden Study 1916 Submarine Sunk in Baltic Sea
Russian divers stand ready to conduct a joint expedition with Sweden on a submarine wreck recently found in the Baltic Sea, the head of the underwater search project A Bow to the Ships of the Great Victory said Tuesday.''
Can't post the links,but it's on Flot as well. Looks like people are talking about maybe raising her on the 100th anniversary next year, that would be awesome.
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2
Russia’s Naval Power in the 21st Century
https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/russias-naval-power-in-the-21st-century/
https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/russias-naval-power-in-the-21st-century/
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2
Russia's Alfa Class Was The Terrifying Hot Rod Sub Of The Cold War
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2
^ That was a pretty great video. One of the rare moments when I wholly agree with western analysts. If anybody wants a good brief on the Russian navy, that's a great place to start.
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Austin wrote:Russia’s Naval Power in the 21st Century
https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/russias-naval-power-in-the-21st-century/
Condescending, arrogant, paranoid, egotistical...
Sums up this video, it's participants and pretty much USA as a whole these days.
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Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #2
2 questions from naval-noob:
1) Heard Russian company is working on gas turbines. How is that thing going? When should product be ready?
2) Kerch shipyard in Crimea. It is supposed to be large enough to handle helicopter carrier with room to spare and they are said to be installing new heavy load crane in dry dock. Is this info accurate?
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