S-300P/400 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

Arrow wrote:https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/12/05/12849368.shtml

The S-400 exceeded all Turkey's expectations!!!

medo wrote:

Arrow wrote:https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/12/05/12849368.shtml

The S-400 exceeded all Turkey's expectations!!!

I'm sure Turkey test them in ECM environment as well. We have to know, that S-400 in Turkey is export version for NATO member. It is for sure importantly different and downgraded, that it would not compromise Russian domestic S-400 even if US experts get hands on them. If this export one exceed all expectations, than we could only assume, what capabilities domestic one have. Integrated together with Pantsir-S1/S2, Pantsir-SM and S-350 it is a big headache for NATO planners.

Mindstorm wrote:

Some new details from test of the C-400E system in Turkey : the F-16s that, according to some bright minds (mostly at F-16.net ) would have been detected thanks to its relatively low RCS at about 200/240 km by C-400 radar was instead detected practically at the very outher boundary of that radar footprint , about 600 km, by the export version of the system.


http://avia.pro/news/turciya-raskryla-rezultaty-ispytaniy-s-400-triumf-obnaruzhil-istrebitel-f-16-za-600-kilometrov?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

About the reasons, as i had highlighted some times ago, for which the Federation had no problems at all at leave its C-400E "confront" the F-35 while US authorities gone mad at the same idea; too many hundreds of USD billions at stakes.....theirs ones.....to remain polite  

thegopnik wrote:Not saying that I don't trust Russian sources most of the time. But can we have a source from a Turkish news source instead of a Russian one to confirm this by any chance?

Some new details from test of the C-400E system in Turkey : the F-16s that, according to some bright minds (mostly at F-16.net ) would have been detected thanks to its relatively low RCS at about 200/240 km by C-400 radar was instead detected practically at the very outher boundary of that radar footprint , about 600 km, by the export version of the system.

dino00 wrote:Serial deliveries in 2025 no comments, if this is true fuck all this shit.

• T-14 has been produced since 2015, though there hasn't been real serial deliveries. It will likely start getting deployed in 2025-2030.
  
• Su-57 has been produced since around 2010 and will unlikely see real serial deliveries until 2024 or even later.
  
• S-400 system started testing in 1999, though was only deployed in 2007.
  
• Pantsir-S1 finished development in 1995, started production in 2008 and was only deployed to the troops in 2012.
  

kvs wrote:We have zero information about the timelines of the missiles it will be using.   It cannot be assumed that everything is ready now
and so any "delay" is a fail.   The Su-57 is not a fail simply because it doesn't have the final model of the engine it is supposed
to be equipped with.   It makes an infinite amount of sense to deploy systems into the real world in stages allowing for natural
debugging.   Cramming the development into one "final release" is merely a choice, not a necessity and puts all the eggs in
one basket.   Given the pattern of Russian missile development over the last 30 years, it is an ongoing process and not tied
to particular projects like the S-400 and S-500.   So the missile characteristics are actually driving the design choices of
their launchers.

For all we know we may get an S-600 system before 2030 based on missile design advances.

suspect the top model S-400 missiles can already shoot down SLBM warheads and anything less than an ICBM warhead... it can deal with targets moving at almost 5km/s for goodness sake... wrote:

eed is determined by distance flown and also radically effected by flight time inside the atmosphere, where most slow down very rapidly. wrote:

It likely wont be that long before scramjet powered SAMs are developed as it is easier to make a scramjet powered missile travel long distances at high speed than one powered by rocket motor wrote: