Syrian War: News #16

SAA captured 40 villages from IS in Hama pocket.



VIDEO: Turkish soldiers are torturing a villager at rural #Afrin in order to get information on ATGMs.
https://twitter.com/TurkeyUntold/status/960639034719686656

calm wrote:SAA will supply them with that from Aleppo.

Turkey is blocked from flying over Syria since downing of Russian plane. They had to sit and watch as this convoy move through Afrin.

Afrin

Where are you getting the highlighted information from? The battle for Afrin is about to heat up, Turkey is already sending thousands of their own terrorists to Afrin and now these Kurdish terrorists are going to Afrin, now all these terrorists will kill each other, which is very good.

calm wrote:SAA captured 40 villages from IS in Hama pocket.



VIDEO: Turkish soldiers are torturing a villager at rural #Afrin in order to get information on ATGMs.
https://twitter.com/TurkeyUntold/status/960639034719686656

If you think that the American, Canadian, and other NATO troops did not do that in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, you are very naive.

Detailed article on US support for MANPADs in Syria

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-06/how-al-qaeda-ended-anti-aircraft-missiles-here-congressional-authorization

Turkish army units are setting up checkpoints and entering cities in Idlib.

If the SAA want to advance anymore they will have to walk over dead Turkish soldiers.

Oh what will you choose Assad.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Turkish army units are setting up checkpoints and entering cities in Idlib.

If the SAA want to advance anymore they will have to walk over dead Turkish soldiers.

Oh what will you choose Assad.

Inevitable really given the many years of support by the Turks and the US to their proxies in the area and the relatively small size of the SyAA being unable to fight on all fronts. It is going to take years for the situation to stabilise in Syria.

What will be interesting is what the fallout will be from the forthcoming upheavals, both political and financial, in the US over the next couple of years. Especially financial as the Government continues to increase dramatically the amount of money it needs to borrow at the same time as cutting taxes, a double whammy.

par far wrote:


Where are you getting the highlighted information from? The battle for Afrin is about to heat up, Turkey is already sending thousands of their own terrorists to Afrin and now these Kurdish terrorists are going to Afrin, now all these terrorists will kill each other, which is very good.

No reports of airstrikes for days now. And on flightradar multiple drones are avoiding Afrin airspace.


No turkish airstrikes in #Afrin but heavy artillery shelling continues


Turkish UAVs are still avoiding Syrian airspace


Turkish UAVs are still not entering Syrian airspace


There were no Turkish airstrikes in Afrin according to contacts since the downing of the Russian jet in Idlib
https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/960780640370257921

How it was when they were allowed in.




Another worst day for the Turks. Now the YPG has one of their ACV-15s. They are dead meat without their air force. They've fallen in the Russian trap. A green light to lure them in and then a red light so the YPG can finish them off.
https://twitter.com/agitpapa/status/960973089013149697


Turkish UAV near Kilis checking to see if Russian radar would lock on if it crossed the border. Apparently it did.


The Turkish drone seems to have tried a quick dash into Afrin. Could also be a false reading because the return leg was way too fast.



3 days ago

Russia has apparently closed Syrian airspace to Turkish aircraft at least until its murdered pilot's body is recovered.
The Russians want a) the body of their pilot back b) Turkey to stop helping Al Qaeda in Idlib.

Body is recovered.


So maybe it is all bs but no more videos from Turkish media of airstrikes. And no reports from Kurds on airstrikes either.

calm wrote:..................

3 days ago

Russia has apparently closed Syrian airspace to Turkish aircraft at least until its murdered pilot's body is recovered.
The Russians want a) the body of their pilot back b) Turkey to stop helping Al Qaeda in Idlib.

Body is recovered.


So maybe it is all bs but no more videos from Turkish media of airstrikes. And no reports from Kurds on airstrikes either.

Could be related to this news Seig just posted:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Turkish army units are setting up checkpoints and entering cities in Idlib.
If the SAA want to advance anymore they will have to walk over dead Turkish soldiers.
Oh what will you choose Assad.

Turks are deviating from the rules again and are trying to pull some shenanigans in Idlib and in return VKS shuts down airspace for TAF.

I doubt that SAA and especially VKS will care too much about these checkpoints, once they approach those cities and start raining hell those TSK units will have option to either pack up or get bombed to bits as collateral damage.

Or most likely they will be ignored by VKS and SAA while snackbar apes gets obliterated around them and SAA drives past them to set up shop.

It happened already during Euphrates Shield. Looks like they still stick to bad old habits, not too healthy.

And they keep forgetting that those Kurds are not going anywhere on their own.

Maybe the plan


Mark
‏ @markito0171
8h8 hours ago

#Turkey plan: Set up 12 bases west of railroad from Khan Sheikoun in south (north of Hama) - Maarat an-Numan - Saraqib- Taftanaz - al Eis (south of Aleppo)

Not really a military target


Gissur Simonarson
‏Verified account @GissiSim
6h6 hours ago

A few hours ago Turkish army bombarded the drinking water facility of Afrin with heavy artillery. The facility is providing clean drinking water to 100Ks of civilians. This is yet another war crime - @GilgoPapa

JohninMK wrote:Not really a military target
Gissur Simonarson
‏Verified account @GissiSim
6h6 hours ago
A few hours ago Turkish army bombarded the drinking water facility of Afrin with heavy artillery. The facility is providing clean drinking water to 100Ks of civilians. This is yet another war crime - @GilgoPapa

They are really shooting off a hip there. Do they even have a plan?

Sounds like the Novorossiya play book to me. Perhaps the same charming worthies are running the show?

Turkey will face a vietnam in Syria.. He will be unable to hold the territories in Syria ,without the economic
Support of US. The Turkish colonies he is trying to create in Syria ,will need money ,to sustain their economies..
and Turkey economy is weak ,will not be able to sustain forever IDLIB as a country separated from Syria ,with
an army there. Economically will drag Turkey economy down ,and with many casualties of Turkey soldiers.
This is why Russia limited its operations in Syria to Air force..to not fall into a trap that will drag Russia economy down and with lots of casualties. Nations without economy ,cease to exist.. look at soviet union. So Erdogan risk
the existence of Turkey itself as a nation. Because he will never be able to end Kurds resistance or the opposition to him
inside Turkey.

If Israel could not end Hezbolah in Lebanon.. Turkey will not succeed with YPG either.
TO finish Kurds , Erdogan will need to get rid of Americans in Syria and then defeat the Syrian
army too and Russia and IRAN.. good luck with that.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-military-showcases-downed-israeli-missiles-rural-damascus-photos/

Syrian military showcases downed Israeli missiles in rural Damascus (photos)

Russia requested from Turkey to set up 12 bases and now I see people accusing Turkey. Well that was nice...

As for the "trap" issue... That needs some explanation.

Actually both US and Russia do not want Turkey to intervene Syria. If somehow involved, they want a Turkey working for their interests...

Well, reality is, Turkey will work for his interests, as every country does.

If Russia really wants to trap Turkey, they can do it. But this would not be a wise decision. Just like US's decisions on Turkey vs. PKK issues. They preferred a bunch of terrorists to an internationally recognized ally. Although on paper, these two countries are allies, still it is so...

As everyone can deduce, this was a total dumbness. And Turkey just left US alone in what they have been doing.

Russia and Turkey are not close enough to be called as allies, however they did something. They assembled a guarantorship agreement over warring sides in Syria. Excluding US. This was a clear message to US.

Imagine Russia traps Turkey in such a time. It would definitely serve US interests. Do not forget, Turkey has problems with Assad, US has problems with Russia/Iran in terms of Syrian crisis. Meaning that once Assad is gone, you can easily form a common ground but that does not apply for US.


Turkey is doing what they are asked to do. If you bombard Turkish military and encapsulate them, it is fairly an easy job to make a real and final deal with Americans.

Remember, Turkey is the main way to supply logistics. It is like the queen in the chess, once lost, it is hard to compensate....

US attacking SAA on other side of Euphrates.
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/961370146383253504


JUST IN: Russian contractors may have been involved in pro-regime attack on US military advisers and their partner forces in Syria that led to US counterattack with aircraft and artillery in east of Euphrates. No US wounded.
https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/961377930248118279

Was today's US airstrike against SAA in defense of the Conoco plant? It is indeed 8 km east of SAA-held Hatlah (CJTFOIR says 8 km E of deconfliction line) but only 3.4 km from Khusham.

This is the beginning of the end for the Yanks. It started out exactly like this at Al Tanf. They panicked and bombed the Hashd when they got too near their weak-ass rats.

All combat-capable SDF units are leaving Jazira for Afrin. The Yank SOFs in DeZ are left with Abu Hawla's worthless bums facing the Russians so they panic and call in the cavalry.

calm wrote:US attacking SAA on other side of Euphrates.
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/961370146383253504


JUST IN: Russian contractors may have been involved in pro-regime attack on US military advisers and their partner forces  in Syria that led to US counterattack with aircraft and artillery in east of Euphrates. No US wounded.
https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/961377930248118279

Was today's US airstrike against SAA in defense of the Conoco plant? It is indeed 8 km east of SAA-held Hatlah (CJTFOIR says 8 km E of deconfliction line)  but only 3.4 km from Khusham.

This is the beginning of the end for the Yanks. It started out exactly like this at Al Tanf. They panicked and bombed the Hashd when they got too near their weak-ass rats.

All combat-capable SDF units are leaving Jazira for Afrin. The Yank SOFs in DeZ are left with Abu Hawla's worthless bums facing the Russians so they panic and call in the cavalry.

Imagine I crack in your house and I stab you while you try to defend your house and your family
In the court I try to defend myself -> "I acted in self defence"
This level of impertinence is untouchable
I hope SAA will defend themselfes with Anti Air missiles "soon"...

The game is playing out nicely so far. Nothing is perfect and many mistakes have been made but given the fact that mistakes are the past, the "now" is working much better.

All these cries and reports and assessments that Turkey's operation if failing, that Erdogan might have to pull out prematurely, internal Turkish politicians making noise, the "Russian/Turkish" divide etc... all songs of lovely and sweet desperation. A steady hand is what's required to see the play go fully through with as little deviation from the initial goal as possible.

Low cost, slow bleed. In a game heavily reliant on cost, cost savings is a premium.

"The issue of restoring contacts and ties between Syria and Turkey is not on Ankara's agenda and such proposals are unrealistic, Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said on Wednesday."

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802071061440736-turkey-restore-ties-syria/?utm_source=https://t.co/bmIquprB5n&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=gE79&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

AbdulhamidtheSecond wrote:Russia requested from Turkey to set up 12 bases and now I see people accusing Turkey. Well that was nice...

which people? Lavrov? Putin? Shoigu?

https://www.rt.com/news/403428-deescalation-zone-syria-russia/

These are not exactly "bases", but some military installments which are supposed to prevent further confrontation.

Here, I should say that I do not think Russians have big interests on Idlib, and hence accepted such locations. Like north Hama and west Aleppo. However, Iranian sectarian fanatics are very hard to keep in place. Turkey faces same problems with opposition factions. But, latest attack was clearly a provocation.

US air strike kills more than 100 SAA soldiers near Deir Ezzor: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-100-syrian-troops-killed-us-defensive-airstrikes-deir-ezzor-reports/

No retaliation against this war crime is going to follow.

Syrians and Russians are expendable. Russians planes get shot down and Syrian troops keep getting murdered by US air force.

Still no response. No retaliation. Nothing.

The only ones who are not getting killed are the Americans. The world respects the Americans because they are not punching bags. If you kill one American soldier they will trash your whole country as a retaliation. If you kill a Russian soldier Russia does nothing. This is why nobody dares to mess with USA.