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Indian Navy and Naval Aicraft: News
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But who are they going to bully?
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GarryB wrote:Wise moves as the whole carrier ops game is better-served with a more western approach
But who are they going to bully?
RSK MiG and their state budget
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KiloGolf wrote:GarryB wrote:Wise moves as the whole carrier ops game is better-served with a more western approach
But who are they going to bully?
RSK MiG and their state budget
The last time the West tried to fully demonstrate their carrier ops in front of them, they tried to attack India to save Pakistan. It's time for you to brush up on some history books...
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magnumcromagnon wrote:The last time the West tried to fully demonstrate their carrier ops in front of them, they tried to attack India to save Pakistan. It's time for you to brush up on some history books...
Looks like you didn't read very thoroughly. India has been using western (British) carriers and doctrine for a while.
In fact they used all that at war, forcing a Naval blockade on East Pakistan in 1971 and launching Hawker Sea Hawks that carried out airstrikes.
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KiloGolf wrote:GarryB wrote:Wise moves as the whole carrier ops game is better-served with a more western approach
But who are they going to bully?
RSK MiG and their state budget
as I have noticed from your previous attempts at trolling and passing off as whatever diatribe as you call knowledge on this forums, I will also have to inform you that this is of no risk to Mikoyan. Simply because I know India far better than you ever would, and know that as of the last 20 years, India couldn't pass off a open tender in anything a respectable time frame. As evident with the MMRCA. If anything, India just further hurts itself by trying to be another Saudi Arabia with the logistical nightmare that is their military.
But much like their major highway headed to Amritsar, nothing gets done, not on time, budget or quality.
So please, continue your bullshit that drags the rest of our IQ into the designated poo gutters of Dheli.
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miketheterrible wrote:as I have noticed from your previous attempts at trolling and passing off as whatever diatribe as you call knowledge on this forums, I will also have to inform you that this is of no risk to Mikoyan. Simply because I know India far better than you ever would, and know that as of the last 20 years, India couldn't pass off a open tender in anything a respectable time frame. As evident with the MMRCA. If anything, India just further hurts itself by trying to be another Saudi Arabia with the logistical nightmare that is their military.
But much like their major highway headed to Amritsar, nothing gets done, not on time, budget or quality.
So please, continue your bullshit that drags the rest of our IQ into the designated poo gutters of Dheli.
I answered jokingly to Garry. Move on.
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I answered jokingly to Garry. Move on.
Not laughing...
The huge irony is that the Indians would benefit rather more from having MiG-29Ks in their navy and MiG-35s in their air force, but clearly they want to spend a small fortune on either Rafale or even Hornets.
Not my position to tell them what to do... but I will be mentioning it when India does something that the US does not approve of and suddenly they lose access to the weapons they rent from the US... because you don't buy weapons from the US... you rent them.
Well what you actually buy is protection... influence... but you just have to hope that any conflict you find yourself in does not involve a country that is more important to the US than you are... Ask Argentina vs Britain in the Falklands dispute.
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KiloGolf wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:The last time the West tried to fully demonstrate their carrier ops in front of them, they tried to attack India to save Pakistan. It's time for you to brush up on some history books...
Looks like you didn't read very thoroughly. India has been using western (British) carriers and doctrine for a while.
In fact they used all that at war, forcing a Naval blockade on East Pakistan in 1971 and launching Hawker Sea Hawks that carried out airstrikes.
It's nothing like the co-developing mega carriers we're talking about here. It's one thing to buy a used vessel, it's another thing to co-develop one when the U.S. refuses to this day to even allow your beloved Javelins to be produced in India, but you think they'll allow their Mega carriers to be developed their instead
..... Sorry buddy, you still need to brush up on your U.S.-Indian relations history books.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:KiloGolf wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:The last time the West tried to fully demonstrate their carrier ops in front of them, they tried to attack India to save Pakistan. It's time for you to brush up on some history books...
Looks like you didn't read very thoroughly. India has been using western (British) carriers and doctrine for a while.
In fact they used all that at war, forcing a Naval blockade on East Pakistan in 1971 and launching Hawker Sea Hawks that carried out airstrikes.
It's nothing like the co-developing mega carriers we're talking about here. It's one thing to buy a used vessel, it's another thing to co-develop one when the U.S. refuses to this day to even allow your beloved Javelins to be produced in India, but you think they'll allow their Mega carriers to be developed their instead
Wasnt there information from Indian sources that they signed agreement of understanding with certain US company on co-developing EMALS for their carriers?
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India tested anti-ship missile with the first submarine Scorpene type
March 2, 2017 the Indian Navy made the launch of the French anti-ship missile MBDA Exocet SM39 Block 2 of the torpedo passing the test head large diesel-electric submarine S 50 Kalvari type Scorpene, reports Indian newspaper "The Economic Times".
The missile that was launched from the first of the six non-nuclear submarines Scorpene submarines (Indian symbol - Project 75), produced in India under license by agreement with the French shipbuilding association DCNS, "successfully hit" educational purpose during testing in the Arabian Sea.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2466486.html
March 2, 2017 the Indian Navy made the launch of the French anti-ship missile MBDA Exocet SM39 Block 2 of the torpedo passing the test head large diesel-electric submarine S 50 Kalvari type Scorpene, reports Indian newspaper "The Economic Times".
The missile that was launched from the first of the six non-nuclear submarines Scorpene submarines (Indian symbol - Project 75), produced in India under license by agreement with the French shipbuilding association DCNS, "successfully hit" educational purpose during testing in the Arabian Sea.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2466486.html
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The Indian aircraft carrier Viraat
On the evening of March 6, 2017, in Mumbai, on the territory of the naval shipyard (Mumbai Naval Dockyard), an official ceremony was held for the withdrawal of the aircraft carrier R 22 Viraat from the Indian Navy, the former British Hermes, which was under the Indian flag since 1987 and for a long time was the flagship of the Indian fleet. At sunset on March 6, 2017, the Indian flag was finally descended on Viraat in order to never be raised again. Viraat was the oldest aircraft carrier in the ranks in the world, and set a historic record for the duration of service for aircraft carriers (over 57 years).
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2480041.html
On the evening of March 6, 2017, in Mumbai, on the territory of the naval shipyard (Mumbai Naval Dockyard), an official ceremony was held for the withdrawal of the aircraft carrier R 22 Viraat from the Indian Navy, the former British Hermes, which was under the Indian flag since 1987 and for a long time was the flagship of the Indian fleet. At sunset on March 6, 2017, the Indian flag was finally descended on Viraat in order to never be raised again. Viraat was the oldest aircraft carrier in the ranks in the world, and set a historic record for the duration of service for aircraft carriers (over 57 years).
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2480041.html
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Until the end of March, the Indian Navy will withdraw the remaining Tu-142ME aircraft from service
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2500343.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2500343.html
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Tu-142ME aircraft officially withdrawn from the armament of the Indian Navy
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2520176.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2520176.html
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The Indian government has approved the purchase of another 32 helicopters HAL Dhruv
The Indian government has approved the proposal of the state-owned aircraft manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to purchase 32 additional Advanced Light Helicopter Dhruv helicopters for the Navy and the Coast Guard of India, the Indian newspaper The Economic Times reports.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2521309.html
The Indian government has approved the proposal of the state-owned aircraft manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to purchase 32 additional Advanced Light Helicopter Dhruv helicopters for the Navy and the Coast Guard of India, the Indian newspaper The Economic Times reports.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2521309.html
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The second Indian submarine of the Scorpene type went to sea
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2648916.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2648916.html
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RussianDefence.com @Russian_Defence 26m26 minutes ago
DefenseNews story on MiG-29K obviously touched a nerve ( https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/08/04/indian-navy-wants-russian-mig-29k-jets-to-be-ruggedized/ … ) since MiG rep. Anastasia Kravchenko had to get involved:
DefenseNews story on MiG-29K obviously touched a nerve ( https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/08/04/indian-navy-wants-russian-mig-29k-jets-to-be-ruggedized/ … ) since MiG rep. Anastasia Kravchenko had to get involved:
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Indian Navy - Brahmos from INS Ranvir in Vertical Launch
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The Indian Navy has introduced a submarine of the Scorpene type
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More bad news
Negotiations with a South Korean shipyard for new minesweeper vessels have collapsed at the final stage, delivering a blow to the Indian Navy’s efforts to shore up its mine-warfare capability, a top government official involved in the project said on Sunday.
The Rs 32,640-crore programme for 12 new mine counter-measure vessels (MCMVs), to be built at Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL) in collaboration with a Busan-based yard, Kangnam Corporation, was pegged as one of the costliest Make in India initiatives.
But the failed talks with the Korean yard over pricing have left the government with no choice but to begin a fresh global hunt for minesweepers. “We were unable to resolve commercial complications despite our best efforts. This particular deal with the Koreans is off,” GSL chairman Rear Admiral Shekhar Mital (retd) told Hindustan Times.
https://defenceupdate.in/navys-minesweeper-deal-falls-south-korea-talks-fail/
Negotiations with a South Korean shipyard for new minesweeper vessels have collapsed at the final stage, delivering a blow to the Indian Navy’s efforts to shore up its mine-warfare capability, a top government official involved in the project said on Sunday.
The Rs 32,640-crore programme for 12 new mine counter-measure vessels (MCMVs), to be built at Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL) in collaboration with a Busan-based yard, Kangnam Corporation, was pegged as one of the costliest Make in India initiatives.
But the failed talks with the Korean yard over pricing have left the government with no choice but to begin a fresh global hunt for minesweepers. “We were unable to resolve commercial complications despite our best efforts. This particular deal with the Koreans is off,” GSL chairman Rear Admiral Shekhar Mital (retd) told Hindustan Times.
https://defenceupdate.in/navys-minesweeper-deal-falls-south-korea-talks-fail/
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The third Indian submarine project Scorpene was launched
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3075794.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3075794.html
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India inducts new submarine rescue system
They may need it someday!
They may need it someday!
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India opens Russia its naval bases
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2539305.html
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2539305.html
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Ship option Indian helicopter Dhruv
At the Aero India 2019 aerospace exhibition held in Bangalore (India) from February 20 to February 24, 2019, the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Indian State Aircraft Building Association (HAL) demonstrated for the first time a prototype demonstrating the ship's Dhruv Mk III Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) prototype. , designated Naval Utility Helicopter (NUH).
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3541798.html
At the Aero India 2019 aerospace exhibition held in Bangalore (India) from February 20 to February 24, 2019, the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Indian State Aircraft Building Association (HAL) demonstrated for the first time a prototype demonstrating the ship's Dhruv Mk III Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) prototype. , designated Naval Utility Helicopter (NUH).
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3541798.html
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Think they would be better off with a naval model of the Ka-226T that they also make themselves...
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The first photos of the Indian ship measuring complex VC-11184
The first photos of the Indian ship measuring complex VC-11184, being built at the shipyard Hindustan Shipyard Ltd (HSL) in Vishakhapatnam. It is reported that as of January 2019, the ship is 90% ready and will be put to sea trials this year.
The ship with a displacement of 15,000 tons and a length of 175 meters was laid in October 2014 and is designed to remove telemetric information from the tested Indian ballistic missiles, and can also be used as a command post for managing naval groups.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3559306.html
The first photos of the Indian ship measuring complex VC-11184, being built at the shipyard Hindustan Shipyard Ltd (HSL) in Vishakhapatnam. It is reported that as of January 2019, the ship is 90% ready and will be put to sea trials this year.
The ship with a displacement of 15,000 tons and a length of 175 meters was laid in October 2014 and is designed to remove telemetric information from the tested Indian ballistic missiles, and can also be used as a command post for managing naval groups.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3559306.html