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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:28 am

    Hello......the point is that using chemical weapon false flags repeatedly, shows a real desperation at the outcome of events on the ground in Syria! If this is the best the West can pull, then the war is already lost for them. lol

    Lets hope you understand this logic!

    Iran and Russia have beaten a fukkin plethora of Western backed mercenary terror outfits down to a pulp!

    Fortunately, that is what matters.........

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    lulldapull wrote:lol, people here are panicking after a half ass missile attack that killed 4 Iranians. lol. In case people here haven't noticed, today, Mr Assad also controls Ghouta, and the SYAA will be laying siege to Idlib soon. At this rate entire Syria should be liberated by next year or a bit later. The Russo-Iranian axis is the least bit perturbed by these air strikes.

    The situation can only get serious if NATO physically invades Syria!........That's it! And that gent's is not happening. Slowly but surely Syria continues towards victory. Today Assad controls 86% of Syrian territory. 5 years ago Assad controlled less than 40% of Syrian territory.

    P.S. Iran will avenge those killed in this airstrike. That is a certainty too.

    I agree...but that's why they're escalating and things can easily get out of control, especially considering the people running the US at the moment....not exactly confidence inspiring
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:31 am

    yeah so what? are we expecting another pussy barrage of tomahawks?........lol

    90% of these tomahawks will get intercepted and shot down. So much for retaliation.

    Austin wrote:US Says No Evidence Assad Behind Chemical Attack; But Will Retaliate Regardless Of UN Decision
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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:02 am

    A NATO multi-national attack from France, the UK, and the U.S will be highly provocative and dangerous to retaliate against.

    Gorby still not hanging from a pole in Moscow?
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:11 am

    u mean like what they pulled on Serbia?....lol...24/7 NATO air attack on Serbia for 1 month, resulted in fuck all against Serbia, other than civilian deaths!

    same thing Israel tried against Lebanon in 2006, and once again it resulted in fuck all diddly squat. Just civilian deaths and infrastructure damage. Militarily it does nothing.

    Let me make it clear here.......unless the US is planning on full scale invasion and toppling of Assad with 1,000,000 troops, nothing will change the direction of this syria war.

    ATLASCUB wrote:A NATO multi-national attack from France, the UK, and the U.S will be highly provocative and dangerous to retaliate against.

    Gorby still not hanging from a pole in Moscow?


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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:13 am

    Then they get hit too. It's no more dangerous if it was just us or not. Simply put, Russia will bunker down, increase EW activity in area, have their awacs flying and jets flying continuously, and will protect itself. Maybe even get Syrias more advance jets moved to close proximity of Russian bases. Maybe move Assad to Russian embassy.

    At that point, US, UK and France can attempt. In end, they will be looking very stupid. If Russians die in that attack, then retaliation may be very Swift. Even to hitting the base where the French and UK aircraft came from.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:16 am

    lulldapull wrote:yeah so what? are we expecting another pussy barrage of tomahawks?........lol

    90% of these tomahawks will get intercepted and shot down. So much for retaliation.

    Austin wrote:US Says No Evidence Assad Behind Chemical Attack; But Will Retaliate Regardless Of UN Decision

    Is not the number that matters..

    lets looks at things this way..
    If Trump launch 200 cruise missiles with help of France ,Britian ,US,Israel to Syria Homes and Damascus military base..
    and 90% of them intercepted.. then how many missiles will hit their targets? 20 tomahawks will hit..
    So a dozen of those tomahawks hit Russian positions and a hundred of soldiers die.. then what will Putin do ?
    he will look like an idiot if he do nothing after Russian soldiers killed ,which he have the responsibility to protect.
    and if he do nothing.. this will encourage more israel attacks.. So the point is.. that because the relations are all time
    low.. American Elites ,press and demonizing Putin.. Britain calling Putin Hitler..and a criminal. then you don't know
    how is Putin going to react.. or how Russian generals will.. it could escalate beyond Control ..and Russia will need to respond and target the warships that targets Syria and Russian army positions.. This is not like last year attack of Trump ,that Russia had hopes , for Trump to change things.. now Russia knows Trump will change nothing and will capitulate to the Shadow Elites who hate Russia. and that doing nothing will only encourage more attacks.. So Russia
    will have to respond with major force.. and if target a warship ,then Trump will not back down..he have a big EGO..
    he then will double down.. as i said ,you cannot predict the outcome of any other attack by NATO on Syria.. because
    relations are so tense , so bad ,that Russia government can simply realize , is pointless to continue this proxy war games. and so take the fight directly to US .


    in another note..

    Some Russia media analyst believe Trump could target Syria or IRAN or both , and use the chemical incident to justify
    the attack on iran nuclear reactor ,something Israel wanted to do for long.in retaliation for the Fake Chemical incident..
    allowing them to do what they wanted for years.. using this chemical pretext.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:18 am

    lulldapull wrote:yeah so what? are we expecting another pussy barrage of tomahawks?........lol

    90% of these tomahawks will get intercepted and shot down. So much for retaliation.

    Austin wrote:US Says No Evidence Assad Behind Chemical Attack; But Will Retaliate Regardless Of UN Decision

    Is not the number that matters..

    lets looks at things this way..
    If Trump launch 200 cruise missiles with help of France ,Britian ,US,Israel to Syria Homes and Damascus military base..
    and 90% of them intercepted.. then how many missiles will hit their targets? 20 tomahawks will hit..
    So a dozen of those tomahawks hit Russian positions and a hundred of soldiers die.. then what will Putin do ?
    he will look like an idiot if he do nothing after Russian soldiers killed ,which he have the responsibility to protect.
    and if he do nothing.. this will encourage more israel attacks.. So the point is.. that because the relations are all time
    low.. American Elites ,press and demonizing Putin.. Britain calling Putin Hitler..and a criminal. then you don't know
    how is Putin going to react.. or how Russian generals will. specially when Russia military base already was attempted
    to be attacked by US with drones. So Russia already ,even without Trump doing anything have a casus belly for war against US..for what they have been doing in Syria since 2011..and ukraine ,and the economic war on Russia..abd aiding ISIS to target Russian soldiers.. Russia gov ,could at some point realize ,that Americans will never back down and that peace is impossible and that the only way to move is a limited war to force NATO towards peace by force.. and so they leave Syria and stop its hostilities.it could escalate beyond Control ..and Russia will need to respond and target the warships that targets Syria and Russian army positions.. This is not like last year attack of Trump ,that Russia had hopes , for Trump to change things.. now Russia knows Trump will change nothing and will capitulate to the Shadow Elites who hate Russia. and that doing nothing will only encourage more attacks.. So Russia
    will have to respond with major force.. and if target a warship ,then Trump will not back down..he have a big EGO..
    he then will double down.. as i said ,you cannot predict the outcome of any other attack by NATO on Syria.. because
    relations are so tense , so bad ,that Russia government can simply realize , is pointless to continue this proxy war games. and so take the fight directly to US . and just one tomahawk that enters.. armed with a small mini nuclear warhead can wipe completely a large military base.. so anything less than 100% could be bad even if small nukes used.


    in another note..

    Some Russia media analyst believe Trump could target Syria or IRAN or both , and use the chemical incident to justify
    the attack on iran nuclear reactor ,something Israel wanted to do for long.in retaliation for the Fake Chemical incident..
    allowing them to do what they wanted for years.. using this chemical pretext.


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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:20 am

    lulldapull wrote:u mean like what they pulled on Serbia?....lol...24/7 NATO air attack on Serbia for 1 month, resulted in fuck all against Serbia, other than civilian deaths!

    same thing Israel tried against Lebanon in 2006, and once again it resulted in fuck all diddly squat. Just civilian deaths and infrastructure damage. Militarily it does nothing.

    Let me make it clear here.......unless the US is planning on full scale invasion and toppling of Assad with 1,000,000 troops, nothing will change the direction of this syria war.

    ATLASCUB wrote:A NATO multi-national attack from France, the UK, and the U.S will be highly provocative and dangerous to retaliate against.

    Gorby still not hanging from a pole in Moscow?

    Keep up with the times.

    As for Serbia, they got what they wanted.


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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:20 am

    Mike they aren't doin shit.......the time to bust Assad was 3 years ago when he was down on his knees, before russia got involved. Back then he controlled less than 40% of syrian territory.

    These einsteins bungled it up.........now its too late.

    miketheterrible wrote:Then they get hit too. It's no more dangerous if it was just us or not.  Simply put, Russia will bunker down, increase EW activity in area, have their awacs flying and jets flying continuously, and will protect itself. Maybe even get Syrias more advance jets moved to close proximity of Russian bases. Maybe move Assad to Russian embassy.

    At that point, US, UK and France can attempt. In end, they will be looking very stupid. If Russians die in that attack, then retaliation may be very Swift. Even to hitting the base where the French and UK aircraft came from.
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:24 am

    lol, you're cracking up a lot of people here......lol.......thinking too much and perhaps watching Tom Clancy movies. Nothing will happen. Nobody will risk nuke war over busted ass syria......lol


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    lulldapull wrote:yeah so what? are we expecting another pussy barrage of tomahawks?........lol

    90% of these tomahawks will get intercepted and shot down. So much for retaliation.

    Austin wrote:US Says No Evidence Assad Behind Chemical Attack; But Will Retaliate Regardless Of UN Decision

    Is not the number that matters..

    lets looks at things this way..
    If Trump launch 200 cruise missiles with help of France ,Britian ,US,Israel to Syria Homes and Damascus military base..
    and 90% of them intercepted.. then how many missiles will hit their targets? 20 tomahawks will hit..
    So a dozen of those tomahawks hit Russian positions and a hundred of soldiers die.. then what will Putin do ?
    he will look like an idiot if he do nothing after Russian soldiers killed ,which he have the responsibility to protect.
    and if he do nothing.. this will encourage more israel attacks.. So the point is.. that because the relations are all time
    low.. American Elites ,press and demonizing Putin.. Britain calling Putin Hitler..and a criminal. then you don't know
    how is Putin going to react.. or how Russian generals will. specially when Russia military base already was attempted
    to be attacked by US with drones. So Russia already ,even without Trump doing anything have a casus belly for war against US..for what they have been doing in Syria since 2011..aiding ISIS to target Russian soldiers.. it could escalate beyond Control ..and Russia will need to respond and target the warships that targets Syria and Russian army positions.. This is not like last year attack of Trump ,that Russia had hopes , for Trump to change things.. now Russia knows Trump will change nothing and will capitulate to the Shadow Elites who hate Russia. and that doing nothing will only encourage more attacks.. So Russia
    will have to respond with major force.. and if target a warship ,then Trump will not back down..he have a big EGO..
    he then will double down.. as i said ,you cannot predict the outcome of any other attack by NATO on Syria.. because
    relations are so tense , so bad ,that Russia government can simply realize , is pointless to continue this proxy war games. and so take the fight directly to US . and just one tomahawk that enters.. armed with a small mini nuclear warhead can wipe completely a large military base.. so anything less than 100% could be bad even if small nukes used.


    in another note..

    Some Russia media analyst believe Trump could target Syria or IRAN or both , and use the chemical incident to justify
    the attack on iran nuclear reactor ,something Israel wanted to do for long.in retaliation for the Fake Chemical incident..
    allowing them to do what they wanted for years.. using this chemical pretext.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 am

    They will make an attack. Only thing that can stop them will be a couple of things:
    1) OPCW goes to Douma and investigates it, proving that it was all bullshit and thus making US look stupid but no completely
    Or
    2) Russia throws itself in harm's way hoping these NATO fucks won't be totally stupid to attack, and keep pushing EW hard on the NATO bastards.

    If 2 ends up being an option of US, then let's hope Kinzhal, Iskanders and Kalibrs are ready. Strike a few NATO bases in non NATO countries like Jordan? That is good.

    Or give Syria rights to launch their Tochkas. Etc.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 am

    lulldapull wrote:Mike they aren't doin shit.......the time to bust Assad was 3 years ago when he was down on his knees, before russia got involved. Back then he controlled less than 40% of syrian territory.

    These einsteins bungled it up.........now its too late.

    miketheterrible wrote:Then they get hit too. It's no more dangerous if it was just us or not.  Simply put, Russia will bunker down, increase EW activity in area, have their awacs flying and jets flying continuously, and will protect itself. Maybe even get Syrias more advance jets moved to close proximity of Russian bases. Maybe move Assad to Russian embassy.

    At that point, US, UK and France can attempt. In end, they will be looking very stupid. If Russians die in that attack, then retaliation may be very Swift. Even to hitting the base where the French and UK aircraft came from.

    You're too high on your own kool aid. Such an attack is not meant to topple Assad so don't fixate on such. It's meant to bully, inflict pain, and provoke.

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    The attack won't come from a base. It will be a saturation attack with cruise missiles from the countries involved. From destroyers and subs.

    Anyone betting against the attack can of course do so but Trump already set a precedent - and that at least should carry weight in any consideration of the matter.

    He was warned then and he did it anyway. People claimed the same thing "They won't risk it" "They won't do it" ....until they did.


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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:45 am



    Let me make it clear here.......unless the US is planning on full scale invasion and toppling of Assad with 1,000,000 troops, nothing will change the direction of this syria war.


    Nobody said US will invade.. in ground invasion.. the goal of any attack in Syria is to humiliate Russia
    and also help ISIS make some gains in Syria.. The name of the game is to continue prolonging the war..
    and provoke civil unrest in Russia if many Russian soldiers killed.. thats what they want.. This is why i said..
    the war in Syria is not against Assad.. but against Putin in reality. he is the big target.. and the more time Russia
    is forced to stay in Syria ,and more attacks NATO do with cruise missiles ,the more longer the conflict will last.
    and more Econoic sanctions and isolation of Russia. They could use Kurds or terrorist in IDLIB to do some advance.
    after a major cruise missile attack and take control of Syria-IRAQ borders.. to block IRAN from entry in Syria.
    To make the war in Syria last decades and bleed the Russian army and economy.. will be a major achievement
    for them. reason why Russia will need to give a strong response if Syria attacked again. Only a show of
    force will push NATO to downscale their hostilities.. Notice Israel.. after their plane shotdown ,.. they did not
    attacked Syria in a month or two. lol1 were pacified through Force.. after the F/16 humiliated incident..
    Peace through force.


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    Post  Regular Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:01 am

    Interesting times. From purely military perspective I am eager to see NATO forces actually engaging Russians. Will Russian air defence be enough to enforce no fly zone?
    I would love to see if SEAD will be any good against Russia.

    What are Russian chances to counter US?
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:06 am

    yeah sure.......whoopity doo.....so what did that Sheiyrat base attack accomplish, other than destroying 6 Mig-23ML's on the apron?

    Did it turn the tide of the war against Russia/ Iran/ Syria?........lol

    No matter what Trump does or for that matter nato tries pulling, the war against Assad is lost!

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    lulldapull wrote:Mike they aren't doin shit.......the time to bust Assad was 3 years ago when he was down on his knees, before russia got involved. Back then he controlled less than 40% of syrian territory.

    These einsteins bungled it up.........now its too late.

    miketheterrible wrote:Then they get hit too. It's no more dangerous if it was just us or not.  Simply put, Russia will bunker down, increase EW activity in area, have their awacs flying and jets flying continuously, and will protect itself. Maybe even get Syrias more advance jets moved to close proximity of Russian bases. Maybe move Assad to Russian embassy.

    At that point, US, UK and France can attempt. In end, they will be looking very stupid. If Russians die in that attack, then retaliation may be very Swift. Even to hitting the base where the French and UK aircraft came from.

    You're too high on your own kool aid. Such an attack is not meant to topple Assad so don't fixate on such. It's meant to bully, inflict pain, and provoke.

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    The attack won't come from a base. It will be a saturation attack with cruise missiles from the countries involved. From destroyers and subs.

    Anyone betting against the attack can of course do so but Trump already set a precedent - and that at least should carry weight in any consideration of the matter.

    He was warned then and he did it anyway. People claimed the same thing "They won't risk it" "They won't do it" ....until they did.
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    Good report.. must read.. by Saker..
    Pretty much i agree in all points and summarize what Russia needs to do next after Israel attack..

    https://russia-insider.com/en/russia-ready-war-mood-prime-time-tv-grim/ri23019



    "To my amazement, the notion that Russia might have to sink a few USN ships or use Kalibers on US forces in the Middle-East was viewed as a real, maybe inevitable, option. Really – nobody objected."




    1) They all agreed that the AngloZionist (of course, they used the words “USA” or “Western countries”) was only going to further escalate and that the only way to stop this is to deliberately bring the world right up to the point were a full-scale US-Russian war was imminent or even locally started. They said that it was fundamentally wrong for Russia to reply with just words against Western actions.

    2) Interestingly, there also was a consensus that even a full-scale US attack on Syria would be too late to change the situation on the ground, that it was way too late for that.

    3) Another interesting conclusion was that the only real question for Russia is whether Russia would be better off delaying this maximal crisis or accelerating the events and making everything happen sooner. There was no consensus on that.

    4) Next, there was an consensus view that pleading, reasoning, asking for fairness or justice, or even for common sense, was futile. The Russian view is simple: the West is ruled by a gang of thugs supported by an infinitely lying and hypocritical media while the general public in the West has been hopelessly zombified. The authority of the so-called “western values” (democracy, rule of law, human rights, etc.) in Russia is now roadkill.
    5) There was also a broad consensus that the US elites are not taking Russia seriously and that the current Russian diplomatic efforts are futile (especially towards the UK). The only way to change that would be with very harsh measures, including diplomatic and military ones. Everybody agreed that talking with Boris Johnson would be not only a total waste of time, but a huge mistake.

    6) To my amazement, the notion that Russia might have to sink a few USN ships or use Kalibers on US forces in the Middle-East was viewed as a real, maybe inevitable, option. Really – nobody objected.

    Reach your own conclusions. I will just say that none of the “experts” was representing, or working for, the Russian government. Government experts not only have better info, they also know that the lives of millions of people depend on their decisions, which is not the case for the so-called “experts”. Still, the words of these experts do reflect, I think, a growing popular consensus.

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    Post  Regular Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:27 am

    You keep repeating same thing- Russia will hit US bases in ME, sink US ships and etc. Then what will happen next you think?
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    Post  Arrow Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:16 am


    Russia will not do anything.
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:47 am

    Vann number 7 somehow thinks that it is totally worthwhile for Russia to go to nuclear war over busted ass Syria!

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:15 am

    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/son-dakika-abd-gemisi-suriyeye-hareket-etti-rus-jetleri-hayvalandi-40799883

    Russian jet have flown over Donald Cook 4 times. It came at 100km from Tartus.
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    Post  par far Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:22 am

    The US won't directly ingage Russia in Syria because if they do, the myth that the US is the strongest military in the world will disappear.

    This Vann character, has been watching too many war movies and playing too much COD or whatever the fuck it's called.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:23 am

    Regular wrote:You keep repeating same thing- Russia will hit US bases in ME, sink US ships and etc. Then what will happen next you think?

    The US won't directly ingage Russia in Syria because if they do, the myth that the US is the strongest military in the world will disappear.

    This Vann character, has been watching too many war movies and playing too much COD or whatever the fuck it's called.


    4 experts in the report i linked.from Russia television all of them agree with my views.. including Saker..


    So what should Russia do ,if Trump launch 200 cruise missiles ,launched from warships ,as it was rumored they were aiming to do.. and 300 russian Army Soldiers in Syria killed?  Will Russia sink a warship to saves their soldiers lives or not?  Putin Risk a major civil war if he become soft...and do nothing.. so his response will have to be very brutal..

    including destroying American warships attacking Syria.. it will be self defense.. and under International laws
    it will be legal.. But if Pentagon generals escalate the hostilities and target Russia military base.. then you will
    see nukes flying..

    It was Putin himself.. who in on record ,saying that he ordered their nuclear forces in Crimea ,to prepare
    for attacking an American warship.. with NUKES!!!!
    This is something many of you do not understand..
    is called  RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.  Every nations have them.. and they are designed in a way ,to justify your actions..
    as an example Syria don't bomb Israel ,but if planes enter in Syria airspace they are destroyed. israel have nukes but they don't use them against Syria .or Palestine.. why? because of Rules of Engagement.. if they use Nukes ,offensively
    without any reason ,they will not have a way to justify their actions.. but if Syria bomb israel cities.. then israel will retaliate with a nuke.. and they will be able to justify it ,,it will be self defense.. Same way if Russia military base
    in Syria is Attacked by NATO warships.. whether it was a mistake or not.. Russia will have a valid reason to Sink the warships. it will be Self defense.. So is not call of duty but FACTS... The reason to use small nukes for Russia ,is more
    for Sending a STRONG message ,the ultimate show of Force ,to their enemies ,that they stop or else ,Russia will take things to a new level.. small nukes today can be at the level of the conventional Father of all bombs.. so is not the end of the world.. is only to send a strong message to your enemies ,that Russia is ready for a war.. if they don't stop.
    If Putin response is weak ,it will only encourage more aggression.

    Soviets ,in Cuban missile crysis ,they shot down an american plane black bird and threatened to blow United States if attack Cuba.. with Nuclear weapons.. and Cuba is a smaller territory than Syria.. So it was very strong posture
    of soviets ,what avoided the war.. if soviets blink and become soft .. it will have risk the killing of many thousands
    of soviets.. since americans had authorization to use nuclear weapons against Cuba.. in preventive strike..

    So the possibility of a world war 3 is very real.. things can get out of control very fast in wars.. and retaliation is not about Syria..but about Russian soldiers there.
    If Putin do not send a very strong message to their enemies ,that Russia will not tolerate the attack on Russian
    army by NATO..and that will be more than ready to use nukes.. then it put in danger his own Presidency for being weak.. but also encourage their enemies to continue with the attacks.

    Only amateurs will not see the danger of a 200 cruise missile attack on Syria by Trump.. any happy trigger general
    or even mistake or intended or unintended consequence could provoke Russia military base bombed with hundreds
    of civilians killed.. so you will see a very brutal response from Russia.. and no message is stronger than the use
    of a nuclear weapon. even if it is very small.
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    Post  nomadski Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:52 am

    I am not anti -nuke weapons as you know . I don't believe chemical weapons or biological weapons have the same military value . So far there has been no direct or large scale war between nuke armed states . Why do you think ? Humans are violent but it seems they have just about enough intelligence to realise that there are no winners in a nuke war . So I think that even if there is limited conventional or nuclear exchange , that it will soon end the war . Pakistan and India have for same reason avoided war , but they make a lot of noise and sometimes a few deaths . Better to live in the shadow of total nuclear annihilation , than die in a vain hope of survival in a modern conventional war.
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    Post  lulldapull Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:00 pm

    Ok vann number 7. You made your point. Now after all this hoo haa, lets see Putin or Iran use the 'Father of All Bombs' against a CIA jihadist target or USN warship!

    Fair enough?

    Vann7 wrote:
    Regular wrote:You keep repeating same thing- Russia will hit US bases in ME, sink US ships and etc. Then what will happen next you think?

    The US won't directly ingage Russia in Syria because if they do, the myth that the US is the strongest military in the world will disappear.

    This Vann character, has been watching too many war movies and playing too much COD or whatever the fuck it's called.


    4 experts in the report i linked.from Russia television all of them agree with my views.. including Saker..


    So what should Russia do ,if Trump launch 200 cruise missiles ,launched from warships ,as it was rumored they were aiming to do.. and 300 russian Army Soldiers in Syria killed?  Will Russia sink a warship to saves their soldiers lives or not?  Putin Risk a major civil war if he become soft...and do nothing.. so his response will have to be very brutal..

    including destroying American warships attacking Syria.. it will be self defense.. and under International laws
    it will be legal.. But if Pentagon generals escalate the hostilities and target Russia military base.. then you will
    see nukes flying..

    It was Putin himself.. who in on record ,saying that he ordered their nuclear forces in Crimea ,to prepare
    for attacking an American warship.. with NUKES!!!!
    This is something many of you do not understand..
    is called  RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.  Every nations have them.. and they are designed in a way ,to justify your actions..
    as an example Syria don't bomb Israel ,but if planes enter in Syria airspace they are destroyed. israel have nukes but they don't use them against Syria .or Palestine.. why? because of Rules of Engagement.. if they use Nukes ,offensively
    without any reason ,they will not have a way to justify their actions.. but if Syria bomb israel cities.. then israel will retaliate with a nuke.. and they will be able to justify it ,,it will be self defense.. Same way if Russia military base
    in Syria is Attacked by NATO warships.. whether it was a mistake or not.. Russia will have a valid reason to Sink the warships. it will be Self defense.. So is not call of duty but FACTS... The reason to use small nukes for Russia ,is more
    for Sending a STRONG message ,the ultimate show of Force ,to their enemies ,that they stop or else ,Russia will take things to a new level.. small nukes today can be at the level of the conventional Father of all bombs.. so is not the end of the world.. is only to send a strong message to your enemies ,that Russia is ready for a war.. if they don't stop.
    If Putin response is weak ,it will only encourage more aggression.

    Soviets ,in Cuban missile crysis ,they shot down an american plane black bird and threatened to blow United States if attack Cuba.. with Nuclear weapons.. and Cuba is a smaller territory than Syria.. So it was very strong posture
    of soviets ,what avoided the war.. if soviets blink and become soft .. it will have risk the killing of many thousands
    of soviets.. since americans had authorization to use nuclear weapons against Cuba.. in preventive strike..

    So the possibility of a world war 3 is very real.. things can get out of control very fast in wars.. and retaliation is not about Syria..but about Russian soldiers there.
    If Putin do not send a very strong message to their enemies ,that Russia will not tolerate the attack on Russian
    army by NATO..and that will be more than ready to use nukes.. then it put in danger his own Presidency for being weak.. but also encourage their enemies to continue with the attacks.

    Only amateurs will not see the danger of a 200 cruise missile attack on Syria by Trump.. any happy trigger general
    or even mistake or intended or unintended consequence could provoke Russia military base bombed with hundreds
    of civilians killed.. so you will see a very brutal response from Russia.. and no message is stronger than the use
    of a nuclear weapon. even if it is very small.  
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    Post  starman Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:08 pm

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran will, but asymetrically

    Hope so. Unfortunately that's the best they can do now.

    Syria should launch a Tochka missile at the israeli base the F-15 started from, thats the only proper answer to this provocation.

    Right but way too risky especially now. The military balance was way in Israel's favor even before the civil war began in 2011. Now is the worst possible time to risk a confrontation. I long for the day when this civil war is wrapped up so Syria and its allies can turn their full attention to Israel. But today is not that day....



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