Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

Video of the briefing with some new footage.

http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/293293

Map.

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:After Syrian Express, do they want a Houthi Express?

That would be a glorious day!  

That would be a great opportunity to make angry fanboys all arond the globe. Abroomz no good?

KoTeMoRe wrote:As shown on the ground and given the rather limited size of the explosion, those are 250/500 kg bombs. 2000 kg bombs would have ruined a lot of people's day. One can always hope.

Further explanation from these above opinions.

Russian marines and Syrian soldiers guard Latakia airport.

Oooops

Information on casualties among civilians appeared in Western media before Russian arcraft left ground, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.

Media reports about civilians in Syria allegedly being killed by Russian airstrikes appeared before Russian aircraft even left the ground, President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.

"As for any information in the media on civilians suffering [from Russian airstrikes], we were ready for such information attacks. I draw your attention to the fact that the first reports on civilian casualties emerged before our planes even left the ground," Putin said at a meeting of the Russian Council for Civil Society and Human Rights.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151001/1027845646/civilian-casualties-info-appeared-before-russian-jets-in-syrian-sky.html#ixzz3nK1cypoH

Yahoo news: Russia says would consider any Iraqi request for air strikes against Islamic State

US air support is useless, they only help kurds. Currently Abadi welcomes Russian strikes and Russian officials are open to it.

F-22 Raptors ВВС США расположенные на Гаваях отправились в Центральную зону ответственности ВС США которая включает в себя Сирию, Ирак, Афганистан и прилегающие страны, 30 сентября 2015 года

Solncepek wrote:F-22 Raptors ВВС США расположенные на Гаваях отправились в Центральную зону ответственности ВС США которая включает в себя Сирию, Ирак, Афганистан и прилегающие страны, 30 сентября 2015 года

American are stupid, you don't need the F 22 to bomb Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan, they don't have high tech radars, so there is no point. Su 24 and Su 25 are good enough to do the job. The American are just  saying "give just attention, we are brining in the big bad f 22", well no one gives a fuck.

Also the west media is making up stories of how Russia is targeting civilians, all these are lies. Russia should say to west "We are going to open up cases against the west for the war crimes they have committed in Iraq and Afghanistan", see how they like that.

sepheronx wrote:

Solncepek wrote:F-22 Raptors ВВС США расположенные на Гаваях отправились в Центральную зону ответственности ВС США которая включает в себя Сирию, Ирак, Афганистан и прилегающие страны, 30 сентября 2015 года

Ah, so they are sending F-22's to where exactly? I guess to patrol in Iraq and Afghanistan but to Syria?  I dont think US will actually do that as if the F-22 gets shot down, US cant do shit about it as they are illegaly in Syria to begin with. Added, the Russians are really going to be watching these things.

This is also very true, the Russians will be watching and if the F 22 enters Syrian air space, shoot one of them down and show the world, it is not invincible, it's just American lies.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Project Canada wrote:Please correct me if my impression is wrong but it seems to me that Russian air to surface weapons needs improvement with their accuracy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K_PzdUSXkdg

Not necessarily, the bombed dropped could be a armor piercing/bunker buster, it's likely that what they hit was probably hidden catacombs.

Some claims that a KAB-2000 piercing bomb hit somewhere in the tunnel behind the ground. The white smoke are stuffs from inside the tunnel flushed outward the ground via the tunnel gates.



Another strike hit somewhere with a big tunnel gate, created big smoke.



So if these opinions are right, then the whole tunnel system - together with humans inside... RIP.

As shown on the ground and given the rather limited size of the explosion, those are 250/500 kg bombs. 2000 kg bombs would have ruined a lot of people's day. One can always hope.

OFAB250-270 and FAB500 were mostly used till this point judging by the videos.

par far wrote:

Solncepek wrote:F-22 Raptors ВВС США расположенные на Гаваях отправились в Центральную зону ответственности ВС США которая включает в себя Сирию, Ирак, Афганистан и прилегающие страны, 30 сентября 2015 года

American are stupid, you don't need the F 22 to bomb Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan, they don't have high tech radars, so there is no point. Su 24 and Su 25 are good enough to do the job. The American are just  saying "give just attention, we are brining in the big bad f 22", well no one gives a fuck.

Also the west media is making up stories of how Russia is targeting civilians, all these are lies. Russia should say to west "We are going to open up cases against the west for the war crimes they have committed in Iraq and Afghanistan", see how they like that.

They mostly used F22s in Syria and Iraq somewhat like ELINT and data gathering platform to coordinate the attacks of other jets, its not particulary well suited for ground strikes, but again there is nothing stopping them from using them as such as they really did. But that was not their main role there.

sepheronx wrote:Curious then: what are Russias assets besides jets, if anything capable to detect and track aircrafts, are in Syria? If not, I assume they are using radar from aur defense systems and syrian military assets?

To add another question to yours, what assets do russia have there to recover any downed airmen should the worst happen? The nightmare scenario of seeing a russian pilot taken by those scumbags is a thought that everyone must have considered at some point, so i hope they have a plan for that sitiation.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Cucumber Khan wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:Some people are eating humble pie with egg on their face now that Russia is conducting airstrikes, and delivering S-300's, and not just Ultron, others too! *not mentioning any names*

Really, S-300? What sources do you have for that?

From several pages earlier in the thread:

Akula971 wrote:I dont mean to jump to any conclusion here guys but i just came across this article suggesting S300 / S400s are already in Syria. I am not 100% sure but i will post it.



The system does look like a S300



My question is - Did Iran get its S300s delivered already ?

The article claims a lot of other things too but I am not sure.

Article :
http://norg-norg.livejournal.com/118387.html

If anyone read my other posts op the ones i posted after that - The SOURCE was an America Twitter handle. NOT RELIABLE AT ALL.

Rodinazombie wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Curious then: what are Russias assets besides jets, if anything capable to detect and track aircrafts, are in Syria? If not, I assume they are using radar from aur defense systems and syrian military assets?

To add another question to yours, what assets do russia have there to recover any downed airmen should the worst happen? The nightmare scenario of seeing a russian pilot taken by those scumbags is a thought that everyone must have considered at some point, so i hope they have a plan for that sitiation.

Two dozen of choppers including at least 10 Crocodiles.

As someone posted this photo some time ago and asked if its genuine, it seems we got the answer now.

Guy on photo is named Taher H. Ismaiel.

His FB: https://www.facebook.com/tismaiel

And few more of his photos:



His photo in Syrian army uniform being flagged as abusive...





And his checkins on map:



So, basically he is Syrian soldier, that had probably chance to borrow uniform from Russians and take a pic . My guess.

No need to endanger his life guys.

KoTeMoRe wrote:No need to endanger his life guys.

Its not me that found him, its quite widespread information atm so... Also he is quite far from harm from what i am aware, and noone is going to chase him coz he took a photo in Russian uniform thats for sure they have alot bigger problems than guy taking photo during his leave.