Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

Monarchist wrote:I have one question. Could the Tupolev Tu-160 be used in this campaign? If no, explain.

the only real use of it would be to bomb multiple targets in various locations in one sortie, but the cost of operating these are very expensive.

d_taddei2 wrote:hey, does anyone have an update of what Russian equipment is now in Syria, i see the Su-34 have now joined the battle, but how many?

Su-34x6

Su-24x12

Su-25x12

Su-30x4

And dozen or so helicopters

Zivo wrote:I've been spending my free time over the last few days defending Russia's airstrikes in the trenches of LiveLeak. People bitching about the free-fall bombs, dead children, etc. I checked CNN tonight... look at this.

3 MSF workers killed in suspected U.S. airstrike on hospital in Afghanistan

"US Admits to "Collateral Damage" to Medical Facility.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/asia/afghanistan-doctors-without-borders-hospital/


The US accidentally bombed a fucking hospital, while lecturing Russia about collateral damage. I'm not laughing about this, I'm angry.

I was gonna mention the same thing. The death toll is now 9 and will probably rise

Zivo wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Russian Strike Saga: Chapter xxx: ISIL's capital  

http://www.rt.com/news/317505-air-force-terrorists-raqqa/

Russian Air Force destroys terrorist command center in Raqqa – Defense Ministry

They're probably going over the footage right now. I can't wait

The video is in the RT link...apparently a BETAB-500 bomb was used. Here's the MOD video

medo wrote:Ave Gaius Vladimirus Iulius Putinus Caesar!

Vann7 wrote:

The only thing that can stop Russia form helping Syria is its Economy..
reason why full scale economic warfare will continue..

What is disappointing is to not see already Belarus and all Asian
nations helping Russia in the coalition..after Putin called for joining them..
This always piss me.. how nations allow evil to rule in the world.. by looking
to the sides and doing nothing..  Even 5 planes of Belarus and another 5 of each of the
Collective Security Treaty Organization... members will do a huge difference. Then you have
China that can significantly help fight Anglozionism terror in Syria.. and India another nation that
never do any difference in the world.. and allow Evil and Terror to do as they please.

The world needs more nations like Russia..to truly become a safe place for all to live.

well said and i agree totally, Belarus could send small company of ground troops to protect the airfield, provide aircraft maintenance, send ammo etc, and like you said 5 or 6 Su-25 would help, i think even Algeria could lend a hand, as well as who you mentioned above.

PapaDragon wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:hey, does anyone have an update of what Russian equipment is now in Syria, i see the Su-34 have now joined the battle, but how many?

Su-34x6

Su-24x12

Su-25x12

Su-30x4

And dozen or so helicopters

thanks, wonder when the Mi-24 will see some action

PapaDragon wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

ult wrote:Pictures from the inside the base -.................

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At 0:58... did that lady say that she is a SALAD CHEF???  
So "underfunded and underfed" Russian army brings along a dedicated salad chef across a continent on a military campaign?!?!!??


Oh and one more thing my dear Russians:

At 1:52 ... is that a freakin' MOBILE SAUNA??????

What, standard desert warfare on 50 degrees Celsius is not extreme enough for you Human/Bear hybrids so you decide to bring along a full sized sauna complete with those S&M sticks so you can relax and beat each other on 90 degrees Celsius between sorties???????

better facilities than the British army had in Afghan and Iraq, and i aint joking. the Americans on the other hand wouldnt go anywhere without there mobile burger king truck lol

Defence Ministry tweeting that a strike with SU-34 has destroyed ISIL ammo and fuel depot and vehicles at Maarrat Al-Nuuman https://twitter.com/mod_russia

Su-25 pilot

d_taddei2 wrote:thanks, wonder when the Mi-24 will see some action

My guess is they're part of the airbase defence

There's a very simple way for the Russian MOD to undermine claims about air strikes against "moderates" trained by the USA. Simply tell them that there's enough evidence about these "moderates" cooperating with ISIS and it's not their fault when Russian bombs hit ISIS targets and kills these so-called moderates along with them.

Neutrality wrote:There's a very simple way for the Russian MOD to undermine claims about air strikes against "moderates" trained by the USA. Simply tell them that there's enough evidence about these "moderates" cooperating with ISIS and it's not their fault when Russian bombs hit ISIS targets and kills these so-called moderates along with them.

It's even simpler just to stamp those rebels as "ISIS" and they terrorizing legitimate government.

The USA are playing a dangerous game of words here IMHO. Right now their domestic audience doesn't have any idea about the moderate Syrian opposition. They've been seeing nothing but inhumane acts of ISIS and to them these islamists are all the same. So Washingtom has to be careful because soon someone at home might start blaming the Obama administration for funding ISIS proxies (let's call them like that). France and Germany on the other hand understand this crucial difference which is why they are more or less siding with Putin.

Vann7 wrote:

The only thing that can stop Russia form helping Syria is its Economy..
reason why full scale economic warfare will continue..

What is disappointing is to not see already Belarus and all Asian
nations helping Russia in the coalition..after Putin called for joining them..
This always piss me.. how nations allow evil to rule in the world.. by looking
to the sides and doing nothing..  Even 5 planes of Belarus and another 5 of each of the
Collective Security Treaty Organization... members will do a huge difference. Then you have
China that can significantly help fight Anglozionism terror in Syria.. and India another nation that
never do any difference in the world.. and allow Evil and Terror to do as they please.

The world needs more nations like Russia..to truly become a safe place for all to live.

Well, China kind of, indirectly, helped, by crippling their own economy

US is almost out of gas. To survive, they need China as a market. They also needs China's foreign investments to support their own industries. So they can give American public the illusion that US economy is OK. Now these are at risk. China is now limiting money flowing out of the country, which hurts US in tourism / housing / automobile industries. Australia and Canada are already feeling it, USA, being bigger, can hold for a bit longer, but will cop it eventually.

China also sold tons of US treasury, which had to be bought back by the Fed.

Where is the US going to find the extra money to confront Russia?

THEY CAN NOT. After they already ran out of cash in 2009, China's self inflicted injuries to their own economy will quickly waste that little American cash deposit Obama has saved post 2009.

I laughed so hard when Turkey (Nato) and Israel (closest American ally in ME) begged Putin for assurance of their safety. They ignored the United States completely.

Looks like the RuAF strikes close to Turkey are having an impact

ANKARA (Sputnik) — On Wednesday, Russia launched precision airstrikes on Islamic State (IS) positions in Syria at the request of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

"I will definitely meet with Putin to discuss the situation in Syria and express my concern on this matter. Since our countries are friends, I will ask him to reconsider Russia's actions in Syria," Erdogan told Al Jazeera news network in an interview.

He added that Russian airstrikes are aimed at the Syrian opposition.

On Friday, the Turkish Foreign Ministry released a joint statement from seven countries, namely, France, Germany, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom and the United States, calling on Russia to stop airstrikes against the Syrian opposition and civilians and to focus its efforts on the fight against the IS.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151003/1027955168/erdogan-putin-talks-airstrikes.html#ixzz3nVE8lyxF

just a thought...........

i know Russia said it wouldnt send ground troops into battle, but couldn't they still provide long range artillery?? i mean the chances on casualties would be almost nil,

Russia could easily send th following:

2A36 Giatsint-B including 2S5 Giatsint-S
2S1
2S3
2S19 Msta-S
2S23 Nona-SVK
2S34 Chosta
2S4 Tyulpan
2S7 Pion
BM-21
BM-27
BM-30
TOS-1A

Russia has loads of this equipment in storage(minus TOS/2s23/2s34) that could be used with great effect. The TOS having the shorter range still wouldnt put it in danger due it having decent protection, both of the Giatsint and the BM's have such a long range the protection issues wouldn't be a problem, some of the equipment could even be used by Syrian ground forces as they currently already use 2S1, 2S3, 2S4, and the BM's. Russia could use Krasnopol and other laser guided ammo all they would have to do is train some of the Syrian grounds troops most likely special forces or Republican guard to use laser designators and your sorted, would be ideal for taking out smaller positions before ground assault and Russia wouldnt have to use expensive air to ground missiles. TOS-1A wide spread destructiveness, added to the the range and point destructiveness of Tyulpan and Pion and the terrorist scum would be turning tail and running or be left dead. All this without Russian troops being put in immediate danger and the Syrian ground forces would find very little resistance after bombardment.

if you really wanted you could use Tochka and Iskander
what ever happened to Syria's Tochka and Iskander? havent heard anything about them, i know tochka was used in the first couple of years of the conflict.


also like to back up what someone said earlier about Russia providing helmets and body armour to Syrian ground troops no info if this has been done but wouldnt be a bad idea for the troops that will be doing the actual ground assaults.

Su-30SM in Latakia
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26440/3311685/

d_taddei2 wrote:just a thought...........

i know Russia said it wouldnt send ground troops into battle, but couldn't they still provide long range artillery?? i mean the chances on casualties would be almost nil,

Russia could easily send th following:

2A36 Giatsint-B including 2S5 Giatsint-S
2S1
2S3
2S19 Msta-S
2S23 Nona-SVK
2S34 Chosta
2S4 Tyulpan
2S7 Pion
BM-21
BM-27
BM-30
TOS-1A

Russia has loads of this equipment in storage(minus TOS/2s23/2s34) that could be used with great effect. The TOS having the shorter range still wouldnt put it in danger due it having decent protection, both of the Giatsint and the BM's have such a long range the protection issues wouldn't be a problem, some of the equipment could even be used by Syrian ground forces as they currently already use 2S1, 2S3, 2S4, and the BM's. Russia could use Krasnopol and other laser guided ammo all they would have to do is train some of the Syrian grounds troops most likely special forces or Republican guard to use laser designators and your sorted, would be ideal for taking out smaller positions before ground assault and Russia wouldnt have to use expensive air to ground missiles. TOS-1A wide spread destructiveness, added to the the range and point destructiveness of Tyulpan and Pion and the terrorist scum would be turning tail and running or be left dead. All this without Russian troops being put in immediate danger and the Syrian ground forces would find very little resistance after bombardment.

if you really wanted you could use Tochka and Iskander
what ever happened to Syria's Tochka and Iskander? havent heard anything about them, i know tochka was used in the first couple of years of the conflict.


also like to back up what someone said earlier about Russia providing helmets and body armour to Syrian ground troops no info if this has been done but wouldnt be a bad idea for the troops that will be doing the actual ground assaults.  

Syria has no Iskanders. As for the Tochas, perhaps they simply has run out of stock?

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