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Syrian Civil War: News
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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I heard that a lot of car bombs and skirmishes going on in Damascus north region.
Lot of bombs exploded in Aleppo airport in past week.
IS THE HEZBOLLAH ALSO INVOLVED IN Damsacus Region?
I heard they have suffered losses in Damascus region itself.
What about the Aleppo push..Are the hezbollah involved in Aleppo or in Damascus region..?
Lots of conflicting reports are coming these days.
The SAA needs to re-focus itself on the Damascus region and the supply routes leading
to Aleppo. Gettign involved in a HIGH STAKES Aleppo conflict in NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS
OF SAA considering their deplting numbers. They need to safeguard men, arms and ammunition
and meanwhile bombard and ambush all the routes leading to Aleppo from Turkey.
IF SAA gets itself intoa quagmire INSIDE ALEPPO IT will deal a blow to their morale
and also ythe rebels will feel that they have got a chance against SAA.
Some off topic.
pics of cutting edge war movies..
Some good pics of Hollywood movies which nearly depict Syria war.. 
Lot of bombs exploded in Aleppo airport in past week.
IS THE HEZBOLLAH ALSO INVOLVED IN Damsacus Region?
I heard they have suffered losses in Damascus region itself.
What about the Aleppo push..Are the hezbollah involved in Aleppo or in Damascus region..?
Lots of conflicting reports are coming these days.
The SAA needs to re-focus itself on the Damascus region and the supply routes leading
to Aleppo. Gettign involved in a HIGH STAKES Aleppo conflict in NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS
OF SAA considering their deplting numbers. They need to safeguard men, arms and ammunition
and meanwhile bombard and ambush all the routes leading to Aleppo from Turkey.
IF SAA gets itself intoa quagmire INSIDE ALEPPO IT will deal a blow to their morale
and also ythe rebels will feel that they have got a chance against SAA.
Some off topic.
pics of cutting edge war movies..Some good pics of Hollywood movies which nearly depict Syria war..
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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Looks like the offensive in Aleppo that was to begin after Qusair was just a propaganda bluff. The offensive in Homs announced later turned out to be a heavier than normal bombardment.
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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What are you talking about?
The SAA and NDF split Homs into two sections, there's recent video floating around of NDF Pushing deep into the center of Khaldiye, Homs.
This map is from a pro-FSA source.
SAA reinforcements also reached Menagh airfield north of Aleppo. That area is supposedly the most rebel-heavy areas in Syria and the SAA managed to stroll right through. We used to get daily videos of the FSA launching attacks in Menagh, but it's been quiet for almost a week now. I wonder what happened? Are the FSA just slow to upload?
You need to understand the Al-Qusair operation took almost a month to complete, they had to first surround the city, split the city into two sides to isolate the rebels, then clear them out. It took over two weeks alone to clear the countryside around Al-Qusair.
There's reports of heavy fighting around Aleppo, and Homs experienced the worst fighting since the start of the "uprising" or whatever the FSA want to call this proxy war. The reports of heavy clashes are coming from FSA online sources.
These "heavy clashes" were not happening a month ago.
The SAA and NDF split Homs into two sections, there's recent video floating around of NDF Pushing deep into the center of Khaldiye, Homs.
This map is from a pro-FSA source.
SAA reinforcements also reached Menagh airfield north of Aleppo. That area is supposedly the most rebel-heavy areas in Syria and the SAA managed to stroll right through. We used to get daily videos of the FSA launching attacks in Menagh, but it's been quiet for almost a week now. I wonder what happened? Are the FSA just slow to upload?
You need to understand the Al-Qusair operation took almost a month to complete, they had to first surround the city, split the city into two sides to isolate the rebels, then clear them out. It took over two weeks alone to clear the countryside around Al-Qusair.
There's reports of heavy fighting around Aleppo, and Homs experienced the worst fighting since the start of the "uprising" or whatever the FSA want to call this proxy war. The reports of heavy clashes are coming from FSA online sources.
These "heavy clashes" were not happening a month ago.
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Looks like the media focus on Aleppo was a deception. The main government thrust was towards Homs which is what the more knowledgable observers were predicting after the fall of Qusair and the recent surrender of Tel Kalakh confirms this. The rats in Homs are making desperate pleas for reinforcements and supplies.
The rebels have launched attacks in Deraa (near the Jordanian border) which is in line with reports about an offensive from Jordan to relieve the pressure in Homs and Aleppo.
The rebels have launched attacks in Deraa (near the Jordanian border) which is in line with reports about an offensive from Jordan to relieve the pressure in Homs and Aleppo.
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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I wonder how many FSA have died or and will die in Darayya-grad.
Trying to attack Damascus from the West just seems to garner atrocious losses for the FSA. The guys they're sending in from Jordan may be US trained, but they're green with little or no experience.
Trying to attack Damascus from the West just seems to garner atrocious losses for the FSA. The guys they're sending in from Jordan may be US trained, but they're green with little or no experience.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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A large SAA convoy moving from Base 93 to Ar Raqqah (10 tanks, 3 fuel tankers, more vehicles carrying food, ammo) was obliterated by rebels. Quite a loss.
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Last words of a SAA soldier before being beheaded (He's in civilian clothes though).
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Last words of a SAA soldier before being beheaded (He's in civilian clothes though).
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why have You posted this video?
Beheading really helps FSA with their cause.. Idiots.
So what do You people think about Kurdish rebels?
Beheading really helps FSA with their cause.. Idiots.
So what do You people think about Kurdish rebels?
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"A large SAA convoy moving from Base 93 to Ar Raqqah (10 tanks, 3 fuel tankers, more vehicles carrying food, ammo) was obliterated by rebels. Quite a loss."
I never heard of this, and I check the FSA streams daily.
Unless you got a video... please don't post one from 2012 either, I see way too much of that. FSA internet-jihadists love to re-title their older videos to fit their agenda.
I never heard of this, and I check the FSA streams daily.
Unless you got a video... please don't post one from 2012 either, I see way too much of that. FSA internet-jihadists love to re-title their older videos to fit their agenda.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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Dunno what websites you're reading. SOHR reported heavy fighting near Raqqa.
Remnants of the convoy. There are a few movies on military photos as well.
videos of the convoy and some captured ammo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CNTJzGjU70c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IKcDdo9INqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jo8AylBTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBm3TZSJtfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKGJSmnGkMY
Unsurprisingly, one of pro-Assad websites took a similar video and claimed that it's "Assad forces advancing on Ar Raqqah". Quite pathetic IMHO.
Remnants of the convoy. There are a few movies on military photos as well.
videos of the convoy and some captured ammo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CNTJzGjU70c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IKcDdo9INqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jo8AylBTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBm3TZSJtfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKGJSmnGkMY
Unsurprisingly, one of pro-Assad websites took a similar video and claimed that it's "Assad forces advancing on Ar Raqqah". Quite pathetic IMHO.
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Viktor- Posts : 5796
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Zivo wrote:"A large SAA convoy moving from Base 93 to Ar Raqqah (10 tanks, 3 fuel tankers, more vehicles carrying food, ammo) was obliterated by rebels. Quite a loss."
I never heard of this, and I check the FSA streams daily.
Unless you got a video... please don't post one from 2012 either, I see way too much of that. FSA internet-jihadists love to re-title their older videos to fit their agenda.
Syrian air force attacked Al Nusra convoy and killed about 100 of its men around Al Raqqua
here is picture of that convoy
Government is moving its forces and is prepared to enter city.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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Quite amateurish propaganda - videos posted by me clearly show rebels attacking the convoy, as well as captured tank, ammo, destroyed trucks with canned food etc.
Meanwhile in Idlib - a tank hit by something, instant ammo cookoff:
Meanwhile in Idlib - a tank hit by something, instant ammo cookoff:
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I don't see 10 obliterated tanks.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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I don't know any more details yet. But after following this conflict for more than a year I rarely believe in great successes achieved by Assad forces. Do you remember that Saddam official who claimed that there are no foreign forces in Baghdad and that US troops are commiting massive suicide at the gates of the city? A great part of SAA propaganda is in a similar league in terms of reliability IMHO.
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Oh I agree. I am skeptical of big successes by either side.
Small scale skirmishes and steady losses seem to be the name of the game here.
Small scale skirmishes and steady losses seem to be the name of the game here.
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Nothing surprising about overstating advances/propaganda. It serves some purposes one of which is that it keeps the general moral of forces positive and helps in preventing people from changing sides.As Sa'iqa wrote:I don't know any more details yet. But after following this conflict for more than a year I rarely believe in great successes achieved by Assad forces. Do you remember that Saddam official who claimed that there are no foreign forces in Baghdad and that US troops are commiting massive suicide at the gates of the city? A great part of SAA propaganda is in a similar league in terms of reliability IMHO.
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Never before have I see something like this
bandit cameraman blasted by the tank.
bandit cameraman blasted by the tank.
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Yeah, that type of footage is rare. I've seen one more where the cameraman was on the second or third floor of the building and gets blasted.
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Iraqi forces destroy al-Qaeda base on Iraq-Syria border
http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/newsbriefs/2013/07/01/newsbrief-04
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Henry Kissinger's view...
http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/newsbriefs/2013/07/01/newsbrief-04
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Henry Kissinger's view...
In his view, the US can no longer hope for a decisive victory and liquidation of the Syrian government.
However, Henry Kissinger believes that Syria can be split into several regions and that such a scenario is the best outcome for America: “There are three possible outcomes. An Assad victory. A Sunni victory. Or an outcome in which the various nationalities agree to co-exist together but in more or less autonomous regions, so that they can’t oppress each other. That’s the outcome I would prefer to see. But that’s not the popular view.”
This statement made by one of the most influential American strategists shows that Bashar Assad is very close to victory and the US is trying to propose a compromise because it is clear that the original plan to overthrow the Syrian government has failed.
Mr. Kissinger is a bit late with his proposal. Last year, when Assad was losing the war, it could have been accept. Now, when Assad’s forces are winning, no one will agree to split Syria into several enclaves.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_06_29/Splitting-Syria-is-the-best-possible-outcome-Henry-Kissinger-2678/
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You could see TC scanning area and probably he seen person with a camera. He might even considered it as RPG threat. Syrian army really stepped their tactics I must admit. Especially when it comes to tanks. They used to employ them in reckless manner. Now it's slow, careful action and we seen proper infantry cooperation with them like Russians used to do in 2nd Chechnya
You live and learn
You live and learn
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Homs is about to be cleansed from bandits and terrorists. As I read western newspapers more and more bandits are begging for help and
warning about incoming massacre of population while Syrian media is saying that victory is at hand.
warning about incoming massacre of population while Syrian media is saying that victory is at hand.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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One suggestion - stop calling rebels "bandits", "rats" etc. This war is not Star Wars, there are no objectively good and bad guys.
BTW:
BTW:
I am curious if his definition of political Islam includes his allies from Hezbollah and Iran.Syria's Assad declares fall of 'political Islam'
In special interview, Syrian president battling civil war says ouster of Egyptian President Morsi 'is fall of political Islam'. 'You can't fool all the people all the time, he adds
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As Sa'iqa wrote:One suggestion - stop calling rebels "bandits", "rats" etc. This war is not Star Wars, there are no objectively good and bad guys.
BTW:
I am curious if his definition of political Islam includes his allies from Hezbollah and Iran.Syria's Assad declares fall of 'political Islam'
In special interview, Syrian president battling civil war says ouster of Egyptian President Morsi 'is fall of political Islam'. 'You can't fool all the people all the time, he adds
You are right don't call them bandits, i call them terrorists because that's exactly what they are.
Trained in turkey in boot camps and send into Syria, operating with help of western terrorist backed up organisations, killing innocent people to blame Assad for that, they destroyed several mosques just because their own fucked up twisted interpretation of their pseudo religion, people who cut off someones head to see if they have blood in them, people who use children to anticipate someone, using car bombs to destroy blocks and than blaming assad for "air strikes, yes surely this bastards the majority of this useless scum are not Syrians, that's Saudi Arabias paid massacre army send into syria to destabilize the country and lies daily lies are repeated like a mantra in western medias that this "rebels" are so brave to destroy this bad bad regime.
The hypocricy is just one standard for USA and their puppets, calling an pseudo war against "Al-CIAda" for entire 10 years and than backing up the same scum they have produced when their own people of Al-CIAda in Syria.
This terrorists shall be perished one by one, no mercy for Western terrorist organisations to overtake regional power for the favor of Israhell.
The propaganda is so old to overtake the region it's just insane that still people believe blatant lies.
USA said Iraq had nuclear weapons, sure lets invade it, non were found total lies from top to the toe nothing was correct only lies and more lies and US comitted Genocide just for oil. Today Iran has "nuclear weapons" such stupid people who felt for the lies at Iraq they fall for the same lies about Iran, Lybia is killing their own people lies, but foreigners have shot at crowds of Lybian people to blame Gaddafi, all felt for that show of "human rights abuse" even i died and majority of awake people today felt for this bullcrap and now Syria is alledged of killing its own people, same bullcrap show and the glory white knight USA that cares so much about lifes of 3rd world countries (as long they have oil) to help them by backing up terrorists to overtake the country to get their oil, more military bases to establish regional power in favor of one little National Socialist Apartheid country and surrender more bases around Russia and China.
But there is one point Saudi Arabia the worst human rights abuser country along with all other USA puppet regimes that do much worse human rights abuses than any other suvereign country they are all backed up, all news against this regimes of human rights abuses are not even showed in western medias and the average stupid person assumes like always "No news must be good news".
Stop dreaming the illusion others have engineered for you.
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But what's the problem? Not only West uses double standards, Iran and Russia use them too. Iran would never call Hezbollah or Hamas terrorists even though their methods are extremely similar.
Regarding Hezbollah - during 2006 war one of their missiles hit Israel, killing two Israeli Arabs. Hasan Nasrallah said that they are "martyrs for Palestinian cause". It pretty much explains their mentality.
Give me just THREE arguments why Shia militias such as Hezbollah or Iraqi Al Abbas Brigade are morally superior to Sunni ones. I have seen Iraqi army (de facto Iranian ally) firing on Sunni protesters and Hezbollah militants installing Shia "Ya Hussein" flags on Sunni mosques. So they're no angels either.
The reason for infighting in the region is simple - for Sunnis Shia (and vice versa) are "munafiqin" which can be translated as "hypocrites" - people who claim they are Muslims but in their hearts they are not. In Islam it's the worst kind of disbelief, even worse than open apostasy. That's why a Sunni can ally with Christians against Shia but he will never ally with a Shia against Christians or Jews.
I see no reason to blame USA for human rights abuse in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a totally different culture, based on different values. On the other hand, there are lots of USA allies with excellent human rights record. Norway is a US ally and it's one of the most free and tolerant countries in the world, same with the entire Europe. Find just ONE Iranian or Russian ally with a similar record.
Regarding Hezbollah - during 2006 war one of their missiles hit Israel, killing two Israeli Arabs. Hasan Nasrallah said that they are "martyrs for Palestinian cause". It pretty much explains their mentality.
Give me just THREE arguments why Shia militias such as Hezbollah or Iraqi Al Abbas Brigade are morally superior to Sunni ones. I have seen Iraqi army (de facto Iranian ally) firing on Sunni protesters and Hezbollah militants installing Shia "Ya Hussein" flags on Sunni mosques. So they're no angels either.
The reason for infighting in the region is simple - for Sunnis Shia (and vice versa) are "munafiqin" which can be translated as "hypocrites" - people who claim they are Muslims but in their hearts they are not. In Islam it's the worst kind of disbelief, even worse than open apostasy. That's why a Sunni can ally with Christians against Shia but he will never ally with a Shia against Christians or Jews.
I see no reason to blame USA for human rights abuse in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a totally different culture, based on different values. On the other hand, there are lots of USA allies with excellent human rights record. Norway is a US ally and it's one of the most free and tolerant countries in the world, same with the entire Europe. Find just ONE Iranian or Russian ally with a similar record.
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Homs is about to be cleansed from bandits and terrorists. As I read western newspapers more and more bandits are begging for help and
warning about incoming massacre of population while Syrian media is saying that victory is at hand.
HIP HIP HURRAY..!
HIP HIP HURRAY..
hey hey hey
Mantra of the day .. of SAA .. hey hey..
This terrorists shall be perished one by one, no mercy for Western terrorist organisations to overtake regional power for the favor of Israhell.
The propaganda is so old to overtake the region it's just insane that still people believe blatant lies.
SAA Must tread very carefully on this slippery slope.They are using their tactics without any external help whatsoever in very patient and clever manner(That is against their nature)
for the past 4-5 months and any single mistake will result in costing lot of SAA lives.So keep bombarding from top and just collect intelligence and keep the skirmishes going on for another 1 year in the most
high intensity conflict area should be the mantra of the day .. every day