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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:37 pm

    Latest version of the Pantir in Syria?

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:39 pm

    kvs wrote:The shrieking about peace and ceasefires is exactly the same sh*t that was pulled in Minsk I and II to save the
    sorry asses of the repression forces.   Here NATO is trying to protect its dear terrorist minions.   It is nauseating
    listening to some British blowhard maggot bleat about moderates.  It has been conclusively established that
    al Nusra is the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda and various other factions, such as Al Sham, are the same species of Salafi jihadi.   It is
    not Assad that needs to go, it is NATO and its terrorists that need to go.
    One suspects that Russia learnt its lesson and as Putin kind of says, we are there until the last terrorist is dead.
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    Post  ult Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:55 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Latest version of the Pantir in Syria?

    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7 - Page 24 CaTXqTNUMAAD30w

    Yeah. Pantsirs-S2 are in Syria.

    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mi...31911-q6ba.htm

    http://lifenews.ru/video/14415
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:35 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:sometimes you don't know where to start with Erdo's propaganda...

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    ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) ‏@anadoluagency  Jan 29
    '109 Russian troops killed in Syria' since September http://v.aa.com.tr/512226  
    Wow.  And their sources are what? Oh wait, when it comes to these people, claims is a source in itself.
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    Post  max steel Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:58 pm

    Syrian Army ends 3 years of rebel siege on Shia towns in Aleppo


    Great turning point in the Syrian war. Government forces end one more of the terrorists sieges. Doing this they totally cut off the terrorists supply lines from Turkey in the North to Idlib and virtually encircled the remaining terrorists in Aleppo city. - Now things are moving fast on almost all fronts. It will be interesting to see if the army now will continue pressing north to close the porous Turkish border or move south to squeeze out the Al-Qaeda from Idlib. I think the priority must be the first, which can be done with the Kurds who already control big swaths of that area.

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    Post  medo Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:16 pm

    ult wrote:

    Nice to see Pantsir-S2 with Russian army plates. I wonder, when they start receiving this newer version of Pantsirs, before we see them only with older search radar.
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:18 pm

    kvs wrote:The shrieking about peace and ceasefires is exactly the same sh*t that was pulled in Minsk I and II to save the
    sorry asses of the repression forces.   Here NATO is trying to protect its dear terrorist minions.   It is nauseating
    listening to some British blowhard maggot bleat about moderates.  It has been conclusively established that
    al Nusra is the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda and various other factions, such as Al Sham, are the same species of Salafi jihadi.   It is
    not Assad that needs to go, it is NATO and its terrorists that need to go.

    It is a measure of the depravity of the west that al Qaeda is now considered an acceptable moderate (terrorist) force.
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    Post  par far Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:10 pm

    Now that the area around the Kweiris Airbase has been cleared, will we see Russian forces being based/deployed there with Russian aircraft? And with the arrival of the SU 35S in Syria, will we see the Ka 52 or MI 28N in Syria?
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    Post  Bolt Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:46 pm

    3rd Russian casualty in Syria (first one was the SU24 pilot, the second was a Marine from the rescue team): https://news.mail.ru/politics/24732212/?frommail=1

    on February 1st "military advisor was killed during the mortar shelling of one of the Syrian outposts". Sad
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    Post  Guest Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:52 pm

    Bolt wrote:3rd Russian casualty in Syria (first one was the SU24 pilot, the second was a Marine from the rescue team): https://news.mail.ru/politics/24732212/?frommail=1

    on February 1st "military advisor was killed during the mortar shelling of one of the Syrian outposts". Sad
    RIP. MoD said that he will be awarded Posthumously.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:30 pm

    A more recent satellite photo of the Russian airbase. Not looked at it in detail but it looks as if they may have cleared a lot of the second runway for ops. Can't see where the Su-24 and Su-25 have gone.

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    EDITED

    OK, done some digging and got more photos, I can't extract the images so these are the links.

    The important bits are that I was correct, both runways now in use. All attack aircraft now on apron bottom left, the Su-30 are in QRA position off the end of the runway. Also the Pantsirs have been moved and are now at both ends of the runway, whilst the S-400 installation seems to have been split with radar in one place and launchers in another.

    Whole airfield
    http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/02/01/siria-a-latakia-caccia-e-missili-russi-istituto-israeliano-pubblica-foto-satellitari/2423419/3/#foto

    S-400
    http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/02/01/siria-a-latakia-caccia-e-missili-russi-istituto-israeliano-pubblica-foto-satellitari/2423419/2/#foto

    Pantsir
    http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/02/01/siria-a-latakia-caccia-e-missili-russi-istituto-israeliano-pubblica-foto-satellitari/2423419/4/#foto

    Aircraft parking
    http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/02/01/siria-a-latakia-caccia-e-missili-russi-istituto-israeliano-pubblica-foto-satellitari/2423419/5/#foto


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    Post  Neutrality Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:35 pm

    RIP to the fallen hero. This is war, casualties happen sadly.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:37 pm

    Three casualties is not too bad. Of course every one of them is sad, but if Russia manages to get out of this war with less than 50 casualties while winning the war I would consider it a success.

    Only three so far is a good result.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:39 pm

    The hardest part will be if Russia decides to expand it's current military bases in Syria after the war is over. Those bases will be targets of the remaining terrorist cells who try to infiltrate them like the Taliban has done in Afghanistan with the US/NATO bases.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:48 pm

    I doubt they will, due to costs and the need.  Su-34's are more than enough to fly the greater distances and having extra bases isnt really needed for Russia.  Syrian airforce may have more need for them, especially if they can get their hands on more jets through trade and loans.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:51 pm

    Bolt wrote:on February 1st "military advisor was killed during the mortar shelling of one of the Syrian outposts". Sad

    RIP.

    Has there been any information about where that happened?


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    Post  Guest Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:59 pm

    Rest in peace my brother.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:03 pm

    I have updated my last post on the satellite images with more. The original link came from here http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/conference-in-israel-to-study-israeli.html and these are a couple of paragraphs from it.

    On the day that the photos were taken, according to the Fisher Institute, on the Latakia tarmac were noted eleven Sukhoi 24s, ten Sukhoi 25s, seven Sukhoi 34s and four Sukhoi 30s -- all Russian air combat planes.

    According to analysts, it is possible that on that day there were other planes not on field, but out flying missions. Among the gear that the Kremlin's military leaders have placed in Latakia are some Sukhoi 24s that have been re-engined due to wear during the repeated attacks carried out against the Islamic State and the rebel forces that are fighting the Damascus regime.
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    Post  George1 Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:45 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Bolt wrote:on February 1st "military advisor was killed during the mortar shelling of one of the Syrian outposts". Sad

    RIP.

    Has there been any information about were that happened?

    he was killed by mortar attack

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1718788.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:55 pm

    Bolt wrote:3rd Russian casualty in Syria (first one was the SU24 pilot, the second was a Marine from the rescue team): https://news.mail.ru/politics/24732212/?frommail=1

    on February 1st "military advisor was killed during the mortar shelling of one of the Syrian outposts". Sad

    Statistically it had to happen at some point but horrible news either way.

    Glory to him and may he rest in peace.

    Jihadi scum will celebrate his death but it will not save them from what is coming for them. Today in Aleppo was just a prelude of things to come. They will all rot and burn.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:10 pm

    JohninMK wrote: On the day that the photos were taken, according to the Fisher Institute, on the Latakia tarmac were noted eleven Sukhoi 24s, ten Sukhoi 25s, seven Sukhoi 34s and four Sukhoi 30s -- all Russian air combat planes.

    According to analysts, it is possible that on that day there were other planes not on field, but out flying missions. Among the gear that the Kremlin's military leaders have placed in Latakia are some Sukhoi 24s that have been re-engined due to wear during the repeated attacks carried out against the Islamic State and the rebel forces that are fighting the Damascus regime.

    So 4 Su-35s and 4 Su-27SM3in the air while al l Su-30 on the ground?



    sepheronx wrote:I doubt they will, due to costs and the need.  Su-34's are more than enough to fly the greater distances and having extra bases isnt really needed for Russia.  Syrian airforce may have more need for them, especially if they can get their hands on more jets through trade and loans.

    Naval base remains AFAIK and probably small contingent to make sure Turks will not do anything stupid like invasion.



    PapaDragon wrote:Statistically it had to happen at some point but horrible news either way.
    Glory to him and may he rest in peace.

    Rest in Peace Brave Soldier

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Jihadi scum will celebrate his death but it will not save them from what is coming for them. Today in Aleppo was just a prelude of things to come. They will all rot and burn.

    no no no! they shall first burn then thye may rot.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:29 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote: On the day that the photos were taken, according to the Fisher Institute, on the Latakia tarmac were noted eleven Sukhoi 24s, ten Sukhoi 25s, seven Sukhoi 34s and four Sukhoi 30s -- all Russian air combat planes.

    According to analysts, it is possible that on that day there were other planes not on field, but out flying missions. Among the gear that the Kremlin's military leaders have placed in Latakia are some Sukhoi 24s that have been re-engined due to wear during the repeated attacks carried out against the Islamic State and the rebel forces that are fighting the Damascus regime.

    So 4 Su-35s and 4 Su-27SM3in the air while al l Su-30 on the ground?

    Could be 3 Su-25 in the air as well.

    Interestingly, in the film in post 826, the Su-30s are in the QRA area whilst the Su-35s are in the main apron, positioned as per the zoomed in photo, as on the bottom left 4x Su-34, 4x Su35, then Su-25 line.


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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:34 pm

    Lenta.ru says that the death of the Russian military officer today was due to shelling from Turkey to Syria.

    So now that Turkey is shelling Syrian territory and targeting Syrian (and Russian) troops what should the response be?
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:44 pm

    My heart says that Turkey should not get away with this, but shelling back Turkish territory would probably give Turkey a causus belli to start military invasion of Syria.

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