Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #7

JohninMK wrote:

NationalRus wrote:..........................

Must be delayed shock. Vid was posted days ago.

NationalRus wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

NationalRus wrote:..........................

Must be delayed shock. Vid was posted days ago.

didnt saw it

yeah a littel shock, palmyra "goverment front"

we are everywere

PapaDragon wrote:

Same thing as with Su-30 pilots. After couple of weeks of flying around in circles waiting for turks they realised that turks are all talk and no balls and that bomber pilots are hogging all the fun so they said: ''please boss, let us drop a couple here and there, I mean we are already in the air for Pete Mitchell's sakes!!!''

Plus, those old Soviet war loads will not use up themselves. Every little bit helps.

Vann7 wrote:
Well well.. It seems something happened in Munich Germany Syria conference
Between US and Russia in the conference about Syria peace process and that it was a
major victory for Russia and a potential end of the war.

at least this is what Thierry Meyssan the french journalist who live in Syria
and have been since 2011 /week 1 reporting about the reality of the Syrian uprising.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article190282.html

That it was organized by US embassy and US NGOs.

You can be a little skeptic because Tierry predictions about Syria
have been wrong several times. and with US politics you cant never be sure
if their speech in front of cameras is real or fake.


But in one thing im 100% sure he is right..

Basically the war in Syria have the interest in conflict of 4 or 6 factions..

You have the ..
1)Israel project "Greater Middle east" and their plan to destroy Syria and hezbolah.
2)The Turkey ambitions of Anexing All Northern Syria and destroying kurds.
3)The Saudi Ambitions of a pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Europe using Syria lands.
4)The French Ambitions ,
5)the US goals too.. that is weaken Russia and destroy Syria.
6)The Kurds plans for their independent state...etc.
7)and the Russian plans to destroy ISIS and alqaeda and all the chechens fighting there
so they dont return to Russia. and to keep Syria integrity and not allow Syria to fall.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article190282.html

Apparently according to Thierry US and Russia agreed in munich to end the war for real.
and Saudi ,Turkey ,israel and France and UK can still sabotage the whole peace process.
And in the signing document , the terrorist organizations Russia wanted to bomb , were labelled as terrorist in the list of UN.

The anger of Erdogan lately ( ,and Saudis too) ,bombing Kurds ,could be a positive sign.
of erdogan becoming isolated.

short_fuze wrote:

You forgot

8 ) the UK keeping BP's fingers in the pie and generally fscking things up 'cos thats what they like to do.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

NationalRus wrote:..........................

Must be delayed shock. Vid was posted days ago.

didnt saw it

yeah a littel shock, palmyra "goverment front"

we are everywere

NationalRus wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

NationalRus wrote:..........................

Must be delayed shock. Vid was posted days ago.

didnt saw it

yeah a littel shock, palmyra "goverment front"

we are everywere

nah, just more of



just so so so open, so not ninja/specops style



looks like MOD said "fuck it, we are going balls to the wall"

Vann7 wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

You forgot

8 ) the UK keeping BP's fingers in the pie and generally fscking things up 'cos thats what they like to do.

Indeed.. but at least. It looks like Russia ,managed to Save Syria from being totally destroyed . and that US will not be arming more rebels. Still however Turkey ,saudi Arabia ,UK ,France can
boycott the agreements between US and Russia. by sending more mercenaries and weapons.
The pipeline project still is possible however.using kurds zones . and the whole peace plan ,can collapse if Hillary clinton becomes President and reverse the deal..and wants all Syria or nothing
as they did in Lybia.  

If the report is correct.
Syria will still be a big win for them from security point of view. Might lose kurds territory ,
but will win a permanent Russia military base. with permanent S-400s. and modern weapons.
and T-90 tanks.So Russia could keep Turkey and also Israel away of invading Syria.

Well given that super duper sneaky Western Operators that were about 500 in Libya got continuously tangled in random cellphone videos, the Russian contingent that's providing fire support from all angles (bar space although you never know) wasn't going to play ninja. Plus they're guests. Bona fide guests why would they hide?

NationalRus wrote:

because we told everybody and their mother in russia on all television and news shows "air operation only"

a few frontline advisers directing action can be brushed off but not this, already 1 adviser died in artillery shelling, well thats unfortunate but if some of this guys in a new BTR-82A get hit in the middle of nowhere close to palymra or somewhere else in the desert far away from the home base people will go: "WTF you told us no ground operation, air campaign only!!"

the yellow blogosphere is already exploding with bulshit, to good not many read this pricks only traitors that are against russia anyway, but a little more and "echo moscow" will be on it, maybe already are and more will follow especially if russian "regular" soldiers will die far away from the base because again we told everybody and their mother that this is a strictly air campaign only.

if more comes up and i expect some if we see how openly they operate on the frontline linguistic acrobatic jujitsu from the MOD will be needed

JohninMK wrote:

short_fuze wrote:A video showing successful active defense against an ATGM. The protection activates at about 6 seconds in.

After a lengthy discussion in the other place, it was concluded as being a Shtora demonstration video and the target was a Bmp-3 probably in UAE

headshot69 wrote:Shayrat AFB



MAP Google

NationalRus wrote:

Well given that super duper sneaky Western Operators that were about 500 in Libya got continuously tangled in random cellphone videos, the Russian contingent that's providing fire support from all angles (bar space although you never know) wasn't going to play ninja. Plus they're guests. Bona fide guests why would they hide?

because we told everybody and their mother in russia on all television and news shows "air operation only"

a few frontline advisers directing action can be brushed off but not this, already 1 adviser died in artillery shelling, well thats unfortunate but if some of this guys in a new BTR-82A get hit in the middle of nowhere close to palymra or somewhere else in the desert far away from the home base people will go: "WTF you told us no ground operation, air campaign only!!"

the yellow blogosphere is already exploding with bulshit, to good not many read this pricks only traitors that are against russia anyway, but a little more and "echo moscow" will be on it, maybe already are and more will follow especially if russian "regular" soldiers will die far away from the base because again we told everybody and their mother that this is a strictly air campaign only.

if more comes up and i expect some if we see how openly they operate on the frontline linguistic acrobatic jujitsu from the MOD will be needed

KoTeMoRe wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

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Well it's an air operation mainly. Also so far all the BTR82A's and the T90's seem to be manned by Syrians or Iranian people. Now I know that there were "Gorkists" in the middle and that those MSTA B's aren't in Syrian inventory, but I still don't get the fuss. There was "no Russian soldier or tank" in Ukraine either.

Also my view is that unlike many, the people that are on the front lines are prepared to hit and get hit. Russia isn't sending conscripts there. So exactly what's going on?

Non-interference in the Affairs of other States out of respect for the will of the peoples populating them is the principled position of Egypt, said President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi.

short_fuze wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Same thing as with Su-30 pilots. After couple of weeks of flying around in circles waiting for turks they realised that turks are all talk and no balls and that bomber pilots are hogging all the fun so they said: ''please boss, let us drop a couple here and there, I mean we are already in the air for Pete Mitchell's sakes!!!''

Plus, those old Soviet war loads will not use up themselves. Every little bit helps.

My thoughts too! It's all good practise!  

Do they get extra stars for simultaneously taking out an aircraft and blowing up takfiris on the ground?

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

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Well it's an air operation mainly. Also so far all the BTR82A's and the T90's seem to be manned by Syrians or Iranian people. Now I know that there were "Gorkists" in the middle and that those MSTA B's aren't in Syrian inventory, but I still don't get the fuss. There was "no Russian soldier or tank" in Ukraine either.

Also my view is that unlike many, the people that are on the front lines are prepared to hit and get hit. Russia isn't sending conscripts there. So exactly what's going on?

Guys, lets not get ahead of ourselves, BTR82A is something that has been delivered to SAA even before air ops started (we all saw pictures). One specialist arty unit does not mean anything. I am sure this is same group that has been on a road show for the past several months and naturally, they want to ride in fancy new trucks.

Most likely they are training SAA artillerymen on the job. Raqqua province is big ticket item and it makes sense that they make sure SAA personnel on site knows what they are doing.    

Also, CNN reporters are stupid but not that stupid, they would have noticed unusually large amount of Russians next to them in the desert. This is maybe couple of dozen at most, rest are SAA in fresh kit and rides.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

....................

Well it's an air operation mainly. Also so far all the BTR82A's and the T90's seem to be manned by Syrians or Iranian people. Now I know that there were "Gorkists" in the middle and that those MSTA B's aren't in Syrian inventory, but I still don't get the fuss. There was "no Russian soldier or tank" in Ukraine either.

Also my view is that unlike many, the people that are on the front lines are prepared to hit and get hit. Russia isn't sending conscripts there. So exactly what's going on?

Guys, lets not get ahead of ourselves, BTR82A is something that has been delivered to SAA even before air ops started (we all saw pictures). One specialist arty unit does not mean anything. I am sure this is same group that has been on a road show for the past several months and naturally, they want to ride in fancy new trucks.

Most likely they are training SAA artillerymen on the job. Raqqua province is big ticket item and it makes sense that they make sure SAA personnel on site knows what they are doing.    

Also, CNN reporters are stupid but not that stupid, they would have noticed unusually large amount of Russians next to them in the desert. This is maybe couple of dozen at most, rest are SAA in fresh kit and rides.

I personally think the people firing those MSTA's are Russian or their direct contacts in the ground. People they have chosen for the job.
While BTR's aren't exactly deathstars or absolute evidence that Russians are in the area, the way they're parked, they're used and they don't seem to get hit tells me the people manning them aren't exactly newcomers.