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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:35 am

    Now this is what you call a really loaded ship. About as low in the water as we have seen in the Syrian Express. Lots of 'snackbars' in there. Must have been watching the weather forecasts, no storms on route.

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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:37 pm



    SU-34 over Aleppo performing combat missions
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:11 pm

    Grudging praise

    Russian military has been very respectful of the US-led coalition’s forces fighting against Daesh terrorist group in Syria, deputy commander for operations and intelligence for the Combined Joint Task Force Peter Gersten stated on Tuesday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Moscow and Washington have been involved in airstrikes against terrorists in Syria, but conducted their aerial campaigns separately. Unlike the strikes of the US-led international coalition, Russia's anti-terrorist operation in Syria was approved by Damascus.

    “They have been quite honestly very respectful of our forces,” Gerstein said, adding that US and Russia forces are not coordinating their activities in Syria. “When they first arrived on a battlespace, and we weren’t anywhere near Shadadi at that point, they were bombing in that region. As our forced moved forward they had stopped bombing in that region, and went further off towards the west and started working in there,” Gerstein explained.

    The US-led coalition of more than 60 nations has been carrying out airstrikes against Daesh in Syria and Iraq since summer 2014 without the approval of the United Nations and Damascus.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160426/1038654971/russia-us-coalition-syria.html#ixzz46xf244C0
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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:38 pm



    Not sure if we had this video, abit oldish but some nice shots here
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    Post  par far Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:53 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    SU-34 over Aleppo performing combat missions


    I thought all the SU 34's were pulled out from Syria?
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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:54 pm

    par far wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    SU-34 over Aleppo performing combat missions


    I thought all the SU  34's were pulled out from Syria?

    Nope, 4 remained.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:07 am

    Militarov wrote:
    par far wrote:
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    SU-34 over Aleppo performing combat missions


    I thought all the SU  34's were pulled out from Syria?

    Nope, 4 remained.
    It was the Su-25s that got pulled back home.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:09 am

    Russian optic massacre continues.

    Night visioin scope Dedal 450 DK spotted in Syria.


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    Oh and there's pictures of a Russian Naval Invantryman with Kashtan on his 74M.

    Optical Hobo Level: Russian Warrior.
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    Post  Guest Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:21 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Russian optic massacre continues.

    Night visioin scope Dedal 450 DK spotted in Syria.


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    Oh and there's pictures of a Russian Naval Invantryman with Kashtan on his 74M.

    Optical Hobo Level: Russian Warrior.

    Isnt Dedal civilian grade hunting night optic from Катод?
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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:03 pm

    What is your problem with them using different optics?

    You do know that Ratnik includes about 5 different standard Assault rifles (AK-74, AS, AK-107, AN-94, AK12, and AEK) and also as it is not just a riflemans system it will include other weapon types including sniper rifles, machine guns, submachineguns etc etc... no one optic is going to cut it for all the different fire arms and all the different roles it will be expected to be needed for...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:21 pm

    GarryB wrote:What is your problem with them using different optics?

    You do know that Ratnik includes about 5 different standard Assault rifles (AK-74, AS, AK-107, AN-94, AK12, and AEK) and also as it is not just a riflemans system it will include other weapon types including sniper rifles, machine guns, submachineguns etc etc... no one optic is going to cut it for all the different fire arms and all the different roles it will be expected to be needed for...

    The problem with using different optics is that they're a PITA for the guys on the ground. Because it's often a different chain of supply. They're about 4 different manufacturers from Russia. 2 from Belarus (although it's Belomo) and then there's the myriad of open purchases in China and around, not counting the Iranian gifts.

    These are mostly a kind hurried purchases from friendly sources of the RU MOD in order to give an edge to the SAA select units that need them. In this sense clearly this details the problems that I was speaking before, with Katod fucking around about 5th Gen NV, while IWT has the right tool since 2013. This denotes frankly a level of mismanagement and (I hope not) nepotism, that will make hard implementing effective solutions for Ratnik.

    And so back to Syria you see that without a streamlined procurement plan for the Syrians, they will have to make do with a lot of different tools with more or less success. So basically the sight he's using has a rather limited lifespan on batteries. While the similarly constructed NPZ PN3 (or PN2M) has a longer battery life with a tad smaller detection range (very small for PN2).

    It's really simple, there are very good tools aleary available for the Syrian situation, it's just the RU Mod spreading the sugar to all its contractors and probably the contractors not being able to fulfill the orders...

    Militarov: Yes they're a civilian contractor that work out of Katod products. They're good products for the price and for a "normal" use. Their powered optics are very very good at the fraction of a Hensoldt or Sch&B.

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    Post  arpakola Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:23 pm

    New footage has emerged showing rebel fighters fleeing a hill top near the Jabhat al-Nusra stronghold of Kabani in northeastern countryside of Latakia. This comes as government troops have targeted Kabani and its surroundings several times in the past weeks.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-nusra-fighters-flee-latakia-hill-rain-missiles/ | Al-Masdar News
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    Post  Guest Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:What is your problem with them using different optics?

    You do know that Ratnik includes about 5 different standard Assault rifles (AK-74, AS, AK-107, AN-94, AK12, and AEK) and also as it is not just a riflemans system it will include other weapon types including sniper rifles, machine guns, submachineguns etc etc... no one optic is going to cut it for all the different fire arms and all the different roles it will be expected to be needed for...

    Thing is that for now i counted almost 15 Western optics in Russian Army service by now, or at least they were spotted, and over 20 of Russian/USSR/Belarus ones are around, with tendency to grow. That is just a mess. There should be selected 1 red dot for the army, 1 red dot for VDV, 1 red dot for naval infantry... 1 thermal imager for army... you know, to make it logical.

    Not even US can afford having 500 soldiers and 25 various types of optics in that batallion, 2-3 at the best to fill all roles.
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    Post  Guest Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:51 pm

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    Militarov: Yes they're a civilian contractor that work out of Katod products. They're good products for the price and for a "normal" use. Their powered optics are very very good at the fraction of a Hensoldt or Sch&B.


    Thought so. Shchmit-Bender was obtained by our Special Brigade in some numbers, i saw the prices and i was going to be sick. 1 daylight sight costs like Land Rover they are buying for the Army.
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    Post  ultron Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:23 pm

    Russia asks the UNSC to put Ahrar and Jaysh Islam on the terrorist list so they can be attacked. The US will veto that because those are the US's assets to kill Russians. Unless they are on the terrorists list, Russia cannot attack them because of the peace treaty with terrorists.

    https://www.rt.com/news/341041-un-syria-terror-list-expansion/
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    Post  ultron Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:48 pm

    Russia says SAA liberated 10,000 sq km of territory. That is a blatant lie. Latakia province remains occupied by terrorists.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-liberates-500-towns-10000-square-km-territory-russian-mod/
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    Post  sweartome123 Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:20 pm

    Kurdish fighters retrieved the body of a Russian special forces soldier.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/mena/syria/syria-kurds-retrieve-body-of-russian-officer-from-daesh-1.1813297

    I'm guessing this soldier was the one we saw in those photos with the tactical AK-74.

    As noted before, this guy likely fought to the death and took many ISIS scumbags down with him.

    Rest in peace, soldier.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:26 pm

    Can we get a verification on this? I don't trust Gulf news or such without confirmation.
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    Post  ultron Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:56 pm

    sweartome123 wrote:Kurdish fighters retrieved the body of a Russian special forces soldier.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/mena/syria/syria-kurds-retrieve-body-of-russian-officer-from-daesh-1.1813297

    I'm guessing this soldier was the one we saw in those photos with the tactical AK-74.

    As noted before, this guy likely fought to the death and took many ISIS scumbags down with him.

    Rest in peace, soldier.

    Kurds in eastern Homs area? I call that bull.
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    Post  ultron Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:46 pm

    Russians are way too stubborn man. Who cares if Russia bombs Ahrar? What's the US gonna do? Bomb the Russian air base in Latakia? Who can prove Russia bombs Ahrar? Just bomb Ahrar and say Nusra was bombed. Geez man. :hero: Assad invited Russian military to Syria to fight Ahrar, not to make peace with Ahrar.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:38 am



    "At the request of the Russian Federation, the defense units of the Kurdish people have managed to get the body of the Russian serviceman killed near Tadmur [from Islamic State terrorists]," the YPG representative said, adding that the body of 1st Lt. Alexander Prohorenko has been passed on to the Russian government.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160428/1038738876/kurds-daesh-russian-serviceman-body.html#ixzz474M8BQfj
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    Post  ultron Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:43 am

    JohninMK wrote:

    "At the request of the Russian Federation, the defense units of the Kurdish people have managed to get the body of the Russian serviceman killed near Tadmur [from Islamic State terrorists]," the YPG representative said, adding that the body of 1st Lt. Alexander Prohorenko has been passed on to the Russian government.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160428/1038738876/kurds-daesh-russian-serviceman-body.html#ixzz474M8BQfj

    Kurds in eastern Homs? Shocked
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:35 am

    sepheronx wrote:Can we get a verification on this? I don't trust Gulf news or such without confirmation.

    It's true, it's the "Russian Rambo's" remains...the man who called an airstrike on himself to wipe out the encroaching ISIS/ISIL cells, and deny them propaganda victories:

    https://www.rt.com/news/341202-russian-rambo-palmyra-body/
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    Post  Regular Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:27 am

    I only hope Kurds and Assad will have agreement as they are the only ones worth supporting in Syria
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    Post  ultron Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:20 pm

    Why don't Russia give air support at Aleppo? Is it because Russia is not allowed to hit anyone other than Nusra and IS? If Russia does not act because of the peace treaty signed with the Americans, then Syria and Iran will act and kill every terrorist in Aleppo without Russia's help. Look at Ukraine, Russia cannot even help ethnic Russians of Ukraine, how can Russia help Arabs?

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