Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

Hama, Syria (3:00 A.M.) – Two hours after withdrawing from Khattab in northern Hama, the Syrian Armed Forces recovered all of their lost points and established full control over this key town that is located just 5 km north of the provincial capital.

A military source from the Syrian Arab Army’s 11th Tank Division told Al-Masdar News on Tuesday night that the government forces managed to regain control of Khattab after Russian airstrikes repeatedly struck Jund Al-Aqsa’s (Al-Qaeda franchise) positions near the Mhardeh-Hama Road.

The Russian Air Force was mostly absent during the Syrian Arab Army’s losses in the northern Hama countryside on Tuesday; however, their presence tonight helped propel the government forces to recapture some of their lost points.

Clashes are currently ongoing at the northern outskirts of Khattab, as the Syrian Armed Forces attempt to recover more territory they lost on Tuesday.

Vann7 wrote:This is a Syrian war and not a Russian war .  Russia role there is only to help ,but they will not
fight the war for Syria. Syrians needs to do that themselves.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian airstrikes killed around 40 Daesh jihadist group in the Syrian province of Aleppo, the Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday. "On August 30, 2016, a mass gathering of Daesh fighters numbering up to 40 have been killed as a result of the Russian Su-34 bomber’s strike in the Maaratat-Umm Khaush area of Aleppo province," the ministry said. The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that a second-in-command of the Daesh jihadist group has been killed in an airstrike in the Syrian province of Aleppo. "Among the killed terrorists confirmed through multiple intelligence channels was Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, better known as ‘official media spokesman’ of the Islamic State international terrorist group," the ministry said in a statement.

Syria has been mired in civil war since 2011, with government forces loyal to President Bashar Assad fighting numerous opposition factions and extremist groups. Aleppo has been under siege by militant groups, including Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar ash-Sham and Jabhat Fatah al Sham, formerly known as al-Nusra Front, classified as terrorist organization in Russia. The city has seen intense fighting over the past few months, with the Syrian army and local militia forces managing to encircle large groups of militants in the eastern districts of the city.

GarryB wrote:

Quit the bullshit. This is a global world now. Every country is linked to every other country. A border drew along the sand don't mean anything anymore. Syria is Russia. Russia is Syria. Syria's war is Russia's war. Russia's war is Syria's war. If Syria falls, Russia will fall. If Russia falls, Syria will fall.

If that dumb logic were true then the US is Russia and Russia is the US too so Russia needs to help the US win and only then can Russia win.

Wasn't that long ago you were demanding Russia leave Syria... why isn't India or China sending in troops?

Oh... that is right... it is not their fight.

Could say the same about Russia.

It is not in Russias interests to go in there and obliterate the enemies of Assad... at the end of the day there is no way they can kill every one of Assads enemies, so any future Syria will have will include Assad and some of Assads enemies.

With Russia fixing everything for Assad then he wont need to compromise on anything so Assads enemies will not likely agree to agree. Therefore any peace Russia imposes will not last and will eventually surface again as another war.

It is comparable to the Crimea... Russia didn't go in there and take everything over and then claim it as Russian. They did enough to enforce stability and peace and let the locals choose their own future.

If they went in and said this is Russian territory then more than likely a few would oppose this and start a rebellion against it, but by giving them a voice and a choice then people are more likely to accept the situation even if that was not their preferred choice.

Russia can help, but if Syrians want control of their own future then they have to make it happen.

wilhelm wrote:It's a troll.
Not a particular bright or funny one either.
Makes others, such as myself, not even want to bother to contribute to the conversation, which is exactly what its aim is.
Clutter the thread with ridiculous repetition until it's unreadable.

Some sentences (eg the Ak-74 stupidity) has been repeated almost word for word under 3 or 4 different usernames it uses over the last few months.

Rodinazombie wrote:This is THE reason for my lack of posting and reduced interest in this forum thesedays. I dip in noe and then but its become pretty much unreadable due to the deluge of stupidity that is not just allowed, but seemingly encouraged by the mods on this site. I say encouraged, because it seems whenever people rightfully complain about such behavour the troll is defended and the bad guys are the ones doing the complaining.

I get this forum wants to be free for all opinions, thats great, but there is a big difference between having and sharing a differing opinion and trolling. By allowing the latter, you destroy the former, I for one would love to see the management here stop allowing the site to be cuckolded by morons. I dread to think how many members or potential members have been put off by this nonsense.

I dont expect anyone to take notice of my opinion, but im pretty sure that im not the only one who feels this way and its to the detriment of the site that this is cleaned up, otherwise the forum will just whither and die.

whir wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:This is THE reason for my lack of posting and reduced interest in this forum thesedays. I dip in noe and then but its become pretty much unreadable due to the deluge of stupidity that is not just allowed, but seemingly encouraged by the mods on this site. I say encouraged, because it seems whenever people rightfully complain about such behavour the troll is defended and the bad guys are the ones doing the complaining.

I get this forum wants to be free for all opinions, thats great, but there is a big difference between having and sharing a differing opinion and trolling. By allowing the latter, you destroy the former, I for one would love to see the management here stop allowing the site to be cuckolded by morons. I dread to think how many members or potential members have been put off by this nonsense.

I dont expect anyone to take notice of my opinion, but im pretty sure that im not the only one who feels this way and its to the detriment of the site that this is cleaned up, otherwise the forum will just whither and die.

This, the senseless drivel and trolling is hurting the forum.

Fred333 wrote:

whir wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:This is THE reason for my lack of posting and reduced interest in this forum thesedays. I dip in noe and then but its become pretty much unreadable due to the deluge of stupidity that is not just allowed, but seemingly encouraged by the mods on this site. I say encouraged, because it seems whenever people rightfully complain about such behavour the troll is defended and the bad guys are the ones doing the complaining.

I get this forum wants to be free for all opinions, thats great, but there is a big difference between having and sharing a differing opinion and trolling. By allowing the latter, you destroy the former, I for one would love to see the management here stop allowing the site to be cuckolded by morons. I dread to think how many members or potential members have been put off by this nonsense.

I dont expect anyone to take notice of my opinion, but im pretty sure that im not the only one who feels this way and its to the detriment of the site that this is cleaned up, otherwise the forum will just whither and die.

This, the senseless drivel and trolling is hurting the forum.

Yep. I understand the wish to have this be an open forum, but this is obviously a troll attack intended to hurt to functionality of the discussions here.

Resistance wrote:I am a direct descendant of Sun Tzu.

GarryB wrote:

The same arguments, down to the character are being peddled nickname after nickname on at least 6 forums so far. He gets banned he crates a new account. That to me is the definition of a bot (troll).

He's the epitome of trolling, it's just that for some reason you try and sell us the principle soap. Ok, I've learnt to deal with it and frankly an ignore is enough, but the irony isn't lost.

Take note of the fact he spammed three posts in a row all containing thing's which could've been compressed into a single post. But no he posted three times in a row and clogged up the thread oh..and he diden't reply to Garry, can we ban him for spamming/trolling already?

I have spoken to him directly several times and sent several PMs and had no replies...

I therefore suspect he is actually a sophisticated BOT...

And I have taken the considered decision to ban him permanently as a BOT.