Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #10

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

I agree, the rapprochement is grossly exaggerated. Turkey wont leave NATO, Turkey wont end their support for over-throwing Assad, they wont stop whining about the imaginary persecution of contemporary, modern day Tartars in Crimea, and they probably wont stop occupying Northern-Cyprus. I honestly believe a similar eagerness and priority in relations between Russia and Greece would provide orders of magnitude greater dividends than you see with Russian-Turkish rapprochement.

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

I agree, the rapprochement is grossly exaggerated. Turkey wont leave NATO, Turkey wont end their support for over-throwing Assad, they wont stop whining about the imaginary persecution of contemporary, modern day Tartars in Crimea, and they probably wont stop occupying Northern-Cyprus. I honestly believe a similar eagerness and priority in relations between Russia and Greece would provide orders of magnitude greater dividends than you see with Russian-Turkish rapprochement.

Of course it would. The Greek people look at Russia in a much more favorable way than any Turk will every do. It would be a blessing for both countries. But unfortunately Greece is taken as a hostage from the EU that's sucking its blood like a parasite. A country with good potential is a mess.

If the Turks take Al-Bab, they will go for more..probably Raqqa, and later bordering areas to Iraq. This is similar to Israel's Operation Sea of Galilee in 1982. They started with a 40km buffer zone into Lebanon, and ended up taking Beirut.

par far wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

I agree, the rapprochement is grossly exaggerated. Turkey wont leave NATO, Turkey wont end their support for over-throwing Assad, they wont stop whining about the imaginary persecution of contemporary, modern day Tartars in Crimea, and they probably wont stop occupying Northern-Cyprus. I honestly believe a similar eagerness and priority in relations between Russia and Greece would provide orders of magnitude greater dividends than you see with Russian-Turkish rapprochement.

Of course it would. The Greek people look at Russia in a much more favorable way than any Turk will every do. It would be a blessing for both countries. But unfortunately Greece is taken as a hostage from the EU that's sucking its blood like a parasite. A country with good potential is a mess.

If the Turks take Al-Bab, they will go for more..probably Raqqa, and later bordering areas to Iraq. This is similar to Israel's Operation Sea of Galilee in 1982. They started with a 40km buffer zone into Lebanon, and ended up taking Beirut.

This should be the biggest concern, the Turks will likely go for Al-Raqqa, when they do, that will be the time to arm the factions, that are fighting the Turks. You can stop the Turks from doing this right now, How? Give weapons to the Kurds that are fighting Turkey.

https://southfront.org/turkey-led-forces-consolidating-gains-in-northern-aleppo-syria/

airstrike wrote:

par far wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

I agree, the rapprochement is grossly exaggerated. Turkey wont leave NATO, Turkey wont end their support for over-throwing Assad, they wont stop whining about the imaginary persecution of contemporary, modern day Tartars in Crimea, and they probably wont stop occupying Northern-Cyprus. I honestly believe a similar eagerness and priority in relations between Russia and Greece would provide orders of magnitude greater dividends than you see with Russian-Turkish rapprochement.

Of course it would. The Greek people look at Russia in a much more favorable way than any Turk will every do. It would be a blessing for both countries. But unfortunately Greece is taken as a hostage from the EU that's sucking its blood like a parasite. A country with good potential is a mess.

If the Turks take Al-Bab, they will go for more..probably Raqqa, and later bordering areas to Iraq. This is similar to Israel's Operation Sea of Galilee in 1982. They started with a 40km buffer zone into Lebanon, and ended up taking Beirut.

This should be the biggest concern, the Turks will likely go for Al-Raqqa, when they do, that will be the time to arm the factions, that are fighting the Turks. You can stop the Turks from doing this right now, How? Give weapons to the Kurds that are fighting Turkey.

https://southfront.org/turkey-led-forces-consolidating-gains-in-northern-aleppo-syria/

Who's going to give weapons to the Kurds now?
Turkey played their cards in such a way that they would gain both Russia and the US and push them away from the Kurds. It's also the fault of the Kurds. They stuck to the US and did not cooperate with Russia. The US betrayed them as they with many of their allies.
If there's anybody that's gonna do that it will be Russia.

zorobabel wrote:Russians on the ground, preparing to monitor the ceasefire:

starman wrote:So what next? Is the siege of Aleppo now strong enough to force the rebel area to give up, so there may finally be an end in sight to this mess?

airstrike wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: ISIS knocks-out third Turkish M60T Sabra tank for the week

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/10/video-isis-knocks-out-third-turkish-m60t-sabra-tank-for-the-week/

Again Konkurs, again side shot again the driver is wounded but not BBQed like the rest.

Wow history is repeating itself. It's basically Pakistan-Waziristan all over again. Just like the Pakistanis, the Turks weren't just soft, but infact aided and abetted Islamic Extremist groups, only for those same groups to show their gratitude by biting the hand that fed them....FFS Istanbul was well-documented for having ISIS merchandise shops, and Ankara holds Al Qaeda flag-waving conferences....good job thinking that through Erdoturd!

Isn't it the other way around, as in Turkey backstabbing Isis in this case?

Yes even ISIS can't trust the Turks...where is this world going.

The list of groups that the Turks have betrayed is truly staggering...this list is just from the top of my head.

1.) The Kurds, who were their personal helpers conducting the Armenian Genocide.

2.) The Germans, who went out their way to ally with the Turks in WW1 and WW2. See the current immigration crisis as their personal gift to the Germans for supporting them so many times in the past.

3.) The Azeri's, who despite claims of being the Turks closest ally, Turkish military intelligence services have attempted to over throw the post-USSR Azerbaijan govts. several times over the past 25 years.

4.) The Bolsheviks, who went out their way to aid the Turks against the Greeks, only for the Turks to turn and ally themselves with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

5.) The Syrians, who in 2010 were working alongside the Turks to fight for Palestinian statehood. Fast forward to 2011, and the Turkish support for the conflict in Syria has sent back the the Palestinian statehood agenda by easily 20 years.

6.) Hamas, who were advised by Turkey (alongside Qatar) to cut ties with Syria and support the overthrow of Assad, only for Turkey to cut ties with Hamas (on Israels request), not to mention wrecking their hopes of Palestinian statehood, as already mentioned.

...Can you name any?

I couldn't have wrote it any better myself. Also, I'm not betting on this recent Russian-Turkish rapprochement, because the Turks almost always betray their friends/allies/partners, and what you wrote above is the biggest proof.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Turkey was never allied with Nazi Germany. It was neutral for most of the Second World War, and it actually declared war on the Third Reich late in the war.

The only engagement the Turks fought during the Second World War was against German-trained pro-Nazi ethnic Armenian diversionists who attacked a Turkish border guard post from nearby Iran.

So much so for "Germany supporting Turkey in the past."

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/Nazi-Collaboration.htm

Ivan the Colorado wrote:Looks like the Kuznetsov is off to Syria:

http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3641012

auslander wrote:It ain't my appetite that got wet......gotta go change my pampers.

Is he carrying Kalibr systems yet?