d_taddei2 wrote:As stated in other threads even upgrades of old anti aircraft guns most of them sitting in storage would be sufficient with a few upgrades automatic radar guidance with proximity fuses are your sorted. Guns in mind
Zpu-1/2/4
Zu -23-2
37mm 61-K
57mm S-60
85mm 52-k
100mm ks-19 (15km ceiling height)
130mm ks-30
All could be based around what Iran did with ks-19 called Sa-ir for the 37mm and upwards equipment and anything below that like what they did with mesbah -1. Zu -23-2 has upgrades already with ZOM1 etc incorporating radar guidance and manpads together.
Even the zsu 23-4M is good and the zsu -57-2 could have similar upgrades. Iran produced the bahman based on zsu-57-2 on a truck.
By choosing these methods it uses up old equipment in stock, cheap to upgrade and make self propelled, and cheap ammo compared to missiles and the larger caliber stuff would actually be better due to options of making new ECM rounds and of course having more fragmentation and airburst range.
Of course if you have older missile systems in storage these could also be used or upgraded with ECM missiles. Can you imagine the size of the EMP a Sa-4 missile would create.
Indeed.. old way anti air artillery but with automatic targeting through radars, deployed as close as possible to enemy positions is a cheap and very effective way to deal with the low level drones attacks... Gary was speaking about S-400s
that will never be used against such drones.. and that 96 missiles pantsirs formation will be enough.. but He needs to understand this is not just terrorist what Russia is facing.. this attacks are all organized by the US military and NATO allies.. on Russia military base.. so they have endless resources to do an attack on Russia base with hundreds kamikazi cheap drones... and combined with long range artillery attacks. 50km. that they will claim Isis "learned how to build them in Syria desert". So Russia needs to be prepared for more attacks of NATO , camouflage as a "jihadist" attack.
Why RUssia military base and planes is not protected in Syria with armed strong concrete buildings ,and stored inside to avoid any damage by low level artillery or drone attacks.. and their base not turned in to
a artillery proof fortress should be the question. this time was a dozen of drones... and if Putin did not warn its enemies in NATO (though behind doors diplomatic channels) of major consequences for them and their military if their attack continues , then they will continue playing and trying to hit russia military base with anything..