Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

dino00 wrote:Way more serious than i though, This means business

dino00 wrote:This means 96 ready to launch missiles right?

dino00 wrote:This means 96 ready to launch missiles right?

PapaDragon wrote:
Boy did Israelis royally screwed the pooch here or what...

They spent nearly a decade keeping S-300 away from SAA and not only were they successfull at it but they also got free pass from Russia to strike at will all over Syria.

But instead of apologizing and eating tiny slice of humble pie after this s**tstorm they went to Moscow and gave MoD some BS story while Russians​ were probably looking at their own data and said: "You fooking kidding me here dude???"

So now they are stuck in way worse situation than SAA just having S-300 because in addition to having S-300, that same S-300 is plugged​ directly into VKS sensor network and pretty much remotely operated with full deniability by Russian troops.

So now 555th can blow whatever they want out of the sky and then choose if they want to sign off on it or let SAA take the credit/fall.

All the while Russian EW systems are roasting the wildlife above West Syria 24/7.

Bravo Israelis, you just flushed decades of effort down the toilet and got stuck with worst case scenario because you let your ego do the thinking. Poetic...

LMFS wrote:The question is: will IAF have the balls to organize a big hunt for the S-300, knowing they are going to get Russians killed in such attack for sure? They have proven recently they are insanely arrogant retards, but will they be capable of bettering themselves with such a screw-up?

A Russian Su-35S air-superiority fighter jet of Russia’s Aerospace Force has intercepted and visually identified the U.S. F-22 Raptor Raptor combat aircraft flying over Syria.

Photographs, made by the infrared search and track fire control system of the Russian Su-35S, shows in infrared spectrum, an F-22 Raptor fighter jet flying over Syria.

The Su-35S infrared search and track system called the OLS-35 and includes an infrared sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator and television camera. This system to determine the general position of aircraft within a fifty-kilometer radius—potentially quite useful for detecting stealth aircraft, such as F-22, at shorter ranges.

The systems scans the airspace ahead of the jet for heat signatures caused by aircraft engines and/or plane’s surface friction caused by the aircraft flying through the air.

According to the Deagel.com, OLS-35 comprises a heat-seeker, a laser rangefinder/designator with new algorithms and advanced software to outperform its predecessor installed on the Su-27/Su-30 aircraft family. The Su-35 IRST is superior to the OEPS-27 in terms of range, precision and reliability.

But, the Su-35’s infrared search and track system (IRST) does not represent a panacea solution against stealth aircraft.

The OLS-35, like and other IRST, does not provide target quality track data for weapons employment. For example, if a Russian Su-35 fighter jet detected an approaching forward aspect F-22, the Russian pilot could not directly utilize the IRST data to direct semi-active, active, or passive homing missiles; laser illumination capabilities are generally a means to guide air-to-ground munitions rather than air-to-air missiles.

Vann7 wrote:Interesting if True..

Russian Jets INTERCEPT U.S. F-22 Over Syria

A Russian Su-35S air-superiority fighter jet of Russia’s Aerospace Force has intercepted and visually identified the U.S. F-22 Raptor Raptor combat aircraft flying over Syria.

Photographs, made by the infrared search and track fire control system of the Russian Su-35S, shows in infrared spectrum, an F-22 Raptor fighter jet flying over Syria.

The Su-35S infrared search and track system called the OLS-35 and includes an infrared sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator and television camera. This system to determine the general position of aircraft within a fifty-kilometer radius—potentially quite useful for detecting stealth aircraft, such as F-22, at shorter ranges.

The systems scans the airspace ahead of the jet for heat signatures caused by aircraft engines and/or plane’s surface friction caused by the aircraft flying through the air.

According to the Deagel.com, OLS-35 comprises a heat-seeker, a laser rangefinder/designator with new algorithms and advanced software to outperform its predecessor installed on the Su-27/Su-30 aircraft family. The Su-35 IRST is superior to the OEPS-27 in terms of range, precision and reliability.

But, the Su-35’s infrared search and track system (IRST) does not represent a panacea solution against stealth aircraft.

The OLS-35, like and other IRST, does not provide target quality track data for weapons employment. For example, if a Russian Su-35 fighter jet detected an approaching forward aspect F-22, the Russian pilot could not directly utilize the IRST data to direct semi-active, active, or passive homing missiles; laser illumination capabilities are generally a means to guide air-to-ground munitions rather than air-to-air missiles.

http://halturnerradioshow.com/images/Sept-2018/F-22-Fighter-Bomber-Pic.jpg

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3194-russian-jets-intercept-u-s-f-22-over-syria


I really hope Russia and China create more military bases.. that will create buffer zones ,that will complicate the launch of Cruise missiles over Syria without flying above CHina or Russia military bases..   Russia can block NATO from bombing if deploy Military bases.. in the places Syrian military have..  people should look for False Flag attacks.. Israelis or NATO could pull one , shut down for example a remote controlled civilian airliner flying to Israel. and later claim Syria did it.. with Russia s-300s..    So people have been warned.. Israel and NATO are capable of staging a false flag with planes over Israel, in order to justify another attack on Syria. That way Israel will have a way to claim , Russia or Syria or IRAN shut down the civilian plane... and justify a major scale attack on Syria.. with NATO and ISrael combined.

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By the way.. anyone knows how many long range missiles from S-300s ,Syria military will have the capability to launch at same time , to intercept NATO and Israel planes in a mass wave attack ?  (without reloading)  ?


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mnztr wrote:The linking of the Syrian air defence net to Russias sensor network the real gem here. No one will be able to approach Syria without the Syrians knowing it. And they will be able to reach out 400 km. If the US decides to bomb Syrian troops again, it will be much more dangerous.

mnztr wrote:
Ah so you are very close to the issue and emotional about it. I understand. Just like all those American mothers who lost sons in Iraq and want to believe it was for some good. In this case it might be. This manuvering, if successful, will save Russian and Syrian lives.

PapaDragon wrote:
Boy did Israelis royally screwed the pooch here or what...

They spent nearly a decade keeping S-300 away from SAA and not only were they successfull at it but they also got free pass from Russia to strike at will all over Syria.

But instead of apologizing and eating tiny slice of humble pie after this s**tstorm they went to Moscow and gave MoD some BS story while Russians​ were probably looking at their own data and said: "You fooking kidding me here dude???"

So now they are stuck in way worse situation than SAA just having S-300 because in addition to having S-300, that same S-300 is plugged​ directly into VKS sensor network and pretty much remotely operated with full deniability by Russian troops.

So now 555th can blow whatever they want out of the sky and then choose if they want to sign off on it or let SAA take the credit/fall.

All the while Russian EW systems are roasting the wildlife above West Syria 24/7.

Bravo Israelis, you just flushed decades of effort down the toilet and got stuck with worst case scenario because you let your ego do the thinking. Poetic...

mnztr wrote:The linking of the Syrian air defence net to Russias sensor network the real gem here. No one will be able to approach Syria without the Syrians knowing it. And they will be able to reach out 400 km. If the US decides to bomb Syrian troops again, it will be much more dangerous.

miketheterrible wrote:I seem to remember that years ago, Russia had air defense students in Russia from Syria learning the S-300 and what not. Is this correct or a false memory?

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#BREAKING: #Russia|n Air Force has deployed 8 Su-30/35s to #Hmeimim AB to use them for 24/7 Combat Air Patrol over #Syria to confront any #Israel|i Air Force fighter jet which might attack #Latakia & #Tartus without #Russia's permission from 00:01Z on 27/09/18.(Via
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GarryB wrote:

I seem to remember that years ago, Russia had air defense students in Russia from Syria learning the S-300 and what not. Is this correct or a false memory?

When the syrians first tried to buy S-300 they trained the syrians to use the system... it was intense pressure from US and Israel that the Russians decided to first hold the deal and then cancel it... returning money paid.

I wonder if they will charge them for the new systems or let them have them free?

GarryB wrote:

Any info about that ?

And that is an interesting aspect too... now that the Syrian AD has a decent IADS, they can now sensibly get aircraft that operate within the system... so AWACS platforms, and of course fighters like MiG-29SMT and MiG-29M2 and indeed Su-30s, which could all contribute and provide depth to the defences...

SAMs on their own are a bit fragile... having fighters adds depth and capability and are enormously highly mobile to fill gaps or provide sensors to look in areas that need better coverage...