Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

France signs contract to join Russia’s Bion-M2 bio-satellite project

Research carried out as part of the Bion-M2 project would help scientists in their preparations for a spaceflight beyond the Earth’s magnetic field

MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS /. The French space agency, CNES, has signed an official contract to take part in Russia’s Bion-M2 bio-satellite project, a spokesperson for the Institute of Medical and Biological Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences told TASS on Tuesday.

"Our American, German, Japanese and French colleagues applied for joining the Bion-M2 project. Besides, scientists from Hungary and Bulgaria also plan to take part. An official contract has already been signed with one of the applicants - France," the spokesperson said.

According to the official, Ukrainian scientists refused to participate in Bion-M2 due to a complicated political situation.

Research carried out as part of the Bion-M2 project would help scientists in their preparations for a spaceflight beyond the Earth’s magnetic field, to the Moon and even further.

Unlike its predecessors, which looked mainly into aspects of physiology, Bion-M2 will focus on effects that space radiation may have on a living organism.

"The main task is to investigate the risks that may occur during a human spaceflight beyond the lower earth orbit," said Vladimir Sychev, who heads the project. "The experiment will be carried out mostly on mice, there will be 65 of them in total. Cameras will be installed in their cage, and the video will be regularly transmitted to the earth."

Besides, fruit flies will also be sent to the orbit.

According to Sychev, the timeframe of the launch remains unchanged and it is scheduled for 2022.

Bion experiments

The Bion-M2 spacecraft, designed and manufactured by the Progress Rocket Space Center, is expected to be launched from Baikonur atop the Soyuz-2.1b carrier rocket. For 30 days, the spacecraft will stay at the altitude of about 800-1,000 kilometers. The animals on board are expected to receive a dose of space radiation comparable to a three-year-long flight aboard the International Space Station.

Bion-M2 predecessor, Bion-M1, was launched in 2013. Its flight continued for 30 days, at the altitude of 580 kilometers.


More:
http://tass.com/science/1035585

Cosmonauts collected samples from that hole in Soyuz. If traces of epoxy are found some incompetent idiot from Energia will be in world of pain.

Realistically entire f****g shift should be prosecuted along with management.

Astronauts Complete Nearly 8-hour Spacewalk to Investigate Space Station Mystery Hole

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2018/12/11/international-space-station-hole-investigation-spacewalk/#.XBGHClF38ji

GarryB wrote:

There is your challenge Vann. Find just ONE Soviet Cosmonaut who doesn't think the US landed on the moon.

It is not really about whether they did or they didn't... it is about simply not believing anything they say as a matter of principle....

And as a matter of principle I don't believe anything that the aforementioned brain-dead flat-earther says.

GarryB wrote:...BTW their more fragile lie is Orville and Wilbur Wright... why is the pathetic distance they flew considered the first successful powered flight when others flew shorter distances before them....

Orville and Wilbur Wright produced video footage of their flight regardless of length (unless Vann The Flat-Earther will prove that it was some ol' timey CGI from 1903)

NASA produced moon rocks that have been proven by Russian scientists (among numerous others) to be from off Earth.

What do Russians have that proves that Gagarin flew to space? All I was able to find was some crappy footage of supposed launch and their scout's honor pinky swear that it like totally happened.

See how that works? Bricks and glass houses.

Rosatom developed one of the systems of the Chinese lunar mission "Chang'e-4"

Thermal blocks are designed to power the spacecraft systems

MOSCOW, December 12th. / TASS /. Rosatom has developed one of the most important systems of the Chinese spacecraft Chang'e-4, launched on December 8 to study the far side of the moon. This was reported TASS representative of the communications department of Rosatom.

"Rosatom created one of the important elements of the Chinese mission Chang'e-4". Thermal blocks developed at the Russian Federal Nuclear Center - the All-Russia Research Institute of Experimental Physics "he said, answering a question about the contribution of the Russian nuclear industry to the new lunar mission of China.

According to the representative of Rosatom, thermal units are radiation sources of heat (RHS) and radioisotope sources of electricity (RTGs), designed to power the systems of the Chinese lunar mission.

"The shells of thermal units were made of composite materials by the specialists of JSC" NIIgrafit "(part of the scientific division of Rosatom)," he added.

https://tass.ru/nauka/5903496

George1 wrote:France signs contract to join Russia’s Bion-M2 bio-satellite project

Research carried out as part of the Bion-M2 project would help scientists in their preparations for a spaceflight beyond the Earth’s magnetic field

MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS /. The French space agency, CNES, has signed an official contract to take part in Russia’s Bion-M2 bio-satellite project, a spokesperson for the Institute of Medical and Biological Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences told TASS on Tuesday.

"Our American, German, Japanese and French colleagues applied for joining the Bion-M2 project. Besides, scientists from Hungary and Bulgaria also plan to take part. An official contract has already been signed with one of the applicants - France," the spokesperson said.

More:
http://tass.com/science/1035585

very good news, research with cost sharing and intl cooperation.

@Papa

https://ria.ru/20181211/1547780290.html

Samples of lunar soil can not be forged, said in the Russian Academy of Sciences

МОСКВА, 11 дек - РИА Новости. Образцы лунного грунта, который за время осуществляемой в 1961-1972 годах программы пилотируемых космических полетов на Луну "Аполлон" американцы доставили на Землю, подделать невозможно, сообщил РИА Новости директор Института геохимии и аналитической химии РАН Юрий Костицын.

"It is impossible to forge lunar soil. Americans for seven lunar missions brought about 300 kilograms of soil to Earth, mostly basalt. It was investigated in laboratories by scientists from different countries - Germany, France, the USSR. There are basalts on Earth, too, but properties, structure, they are significantly different from the lunar. On Earth, there are no rocks older than three to seven billion years, and the Americans brought a substance, whose age is more than four billion years, which is very close to the age of the solar system "- sk Azal Kostitsyn.

ok ok but I love to troll pindosov with fake moon landing

GarryB wrote:

ok so you bring back only to send back as a space base module or rocket or robots? not ot mention fule, you bring down resources like components of rule and then launchingback?
genius you are just genius!!!

Well what you do is you apply the technology developed on earth for EMALS that is basically using electricity and magnets to accelerate matter... you don't need fuel as such... if you are sitting on a billion ton asteroid you can chip off material and launch it in a direction opposite to that you want to travel and move that way... or if the content on that particular asteroid is relatively small you could launch it in the direction of the earth or where ever it is needed and fired in that direction with a beacon so as it approaches it can be intercepted and captured and then used.

you know when I first see any official announcement about Russians pumping money in EMALS we can return to conversation. So far form real world I can rear about VTOL carrier rockets

Nothing, except the fact that the rocket he was in was tracked by the west on certain legs of its orbit... it was years before the US could do the same...

And how do we know that there was human onboard?

Nothing but Russian pinky swear scout's honor that he like totally was.

Going by your logic Americans had human in space the first time they launched V2 they dragged home from Germany.

Where is evidence that Gagarin went to space? Flat-Earther can demand extra proof so I am doing the same.

Where is evidence? One metal ball, a crappy footage of what could easily be empty rocket and Russian word proves only that they had some fuel to burn and loads of hot air to blow.

Wrights provided physical evidence, NASA provided physical evidence.
Your move Russia, put up or STFU.

Big_Gazza wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:And how do we know that there was human onboard?

Voice and TV transmissions from the capsule.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Vostok1.jpg

Also implied by the design of the recovered capsule with it's ejection seat runners and instrumentation for an occupant.

I hope you are pursuing this line of inquiry out of sarcasm and not out of some kind on Vann-ish belief system?

Pure sarcasm of course, who do you take me for?

Also, this doesn't prove anything, that footage could have been easily recorded and passed off as real deal. Same with capsule, it proves nothing by itself.

How can they prove that it was transmitted from space? They can't.

See the problem when someone goes chasing conspiracy theories?

It means that your side is also open to scrutiny and in this case only reason people believe that Gagarin traveled to space is because Americans chose to corroborate these claims since they also detected this transmission and were good sports about it.

Just like Russians chose to be good sports about Americans landing on the Moon long before they received any moon rocks.

It's called having dignity. Not something our local Flat Earther here or Trampoline Man in Roskosmos are familiar with.

Vann7 wrote:you are an obvious TROLL and will
not be surprised you are a paid NGO troll.. that comes the forums to spread disinformation..

What's the matter flat-earther? Getting bit angsty there. You don't like getting owned?

Vann7 wrote:...Is not only ROGOZIN , IS the Russian GOVERNMENT through its media hinting NASA never landed in the moon...

And I am hinting that I have 80cm long Johnson. My hint is evidence enough of my bold claims.

Vann7 wrote:.... and of thousands of serious investigations on the internet...

Internet...

Vann7 wrote:..So what will you do when the Russian Government officially says NASA did not landed on the moon?

Nothing because they will never get to say it.

Only thing Russians will be able to do should they ever reach the Moon is to visit Apollo-11 landing site and humbly salute heroes who were there long before them.

Unconfirmed: Roskosmos selected version of super-heavy rocket with 1 RD-180 core and 6 RD-171 boosters

https://ria.ru/20181223/1548507026.html

Conventional solution. RD-180 is in mass production, reliable and dirt cheap while RD-171 is a monster.  Payload capacity should be 103 tons.



Just imagine LEO space station made of 100 ton segments.

Interesting 1/2/3 stage sequence, check it out (bottom right):

PapaDragon wrote:


Just imagine LEO space station made of 100 ton segments.    

Interesting 1/2/3 stage sequence, check it out (bottom right):

well, well, well since Rogozin started to shake this pit of sadness suddenly ideas about heavy rockets, it seems to kick start. Good.

The design of the rocket "Angara" changed after purging the layout in the wind tunnel

MOSCOW, December 24 - RIA News . The parameters of the Angara-A5 rocket and its flight paths were corrected after testing a carrier model at the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI).
“According to the results of experimental studies at TsAGI, the company-developer introduced the necessary changes to the Angara-A5 design. Thus, the application patterns and thickness of the heat-shielding coating were corrected, new fairings were installed to protect the side block separation system, and - said in a statement TsAGI.

Tests of Angara-A5 launch vehicle models were carried out in a large hypersonic wind tunnel, as well as in a TsAGI impact wind tunnel. Analysis of the results showed that a number of elements of the launch vehicle design are subject to a dangerous level of heat exposure and require protection. In this regard, TsAGI specialists have developed recommendations on how to protect the device from such loads.
The report notes that a second flight of the Angara-A5 launch vehicle is currently being prepared.

https://ria.ru/20181224/1548562512.html

Big_Gazza wrote:...~100T LEO capacity is adequate for a SHLV as it supports lunar missions and heavy orbital assemblies. While bigger is always more impressive, I don't think it would be wise for Russia to try a 150-180T class booster at this point in time from the POV of cost and risk and schedule....

Agreed.

Personally I would love nothing more than to see 200ton beast on launchpad but this is definitely more sustainable approach.

If they need to they can develop larger core stage with RD-0120 engine later, everything else will be in use by then.

And most importantly there isn't a single payload on drawing board or even concept stage that would require 200ton capacity rocket.

Big_Gazza wrote:...Meanwhile, Zak the 5th columnist fuktard proclaims "Dilemmas still facing the Russian super-rocket program".... does this Atlantacist azzhole ever give up his one-man crusade to shit-can Russian space industry?

Zak gets to do what he does because Roskosmos is too lazy to allocate one guy with internet access to do that job 20 minutes per week.

Until that happens Zak has the market cornered fair and square.