Russian Nuclear Submarine Force: Discussion

The U.S can set up radar units and listening posts in South America to detect a FOB approaching from the South.

They certainly can, but these are not radars you have on a ship... these are enormous very very expensive radar arrays that costs billions... and once they are set up facing south then set some more up facing east and west and also to protect Hawaii you will need more there... all very expensive and previously unnecessary... with manouvering hypersonic threats even if the US sees the missiles coming there is not much they can actually do about them except launch their own attack in response, and of course they could put a big bomb on a ship or drone and sail it into a US harbour....

It is all about reminding the US that they are not safe... many in the west think Russia collapsed and disappeared and the west has gone from strength to strength, but reality is rather different and quite a pill for the US to swallow.

Sevmash vs Admiralty....nuclear submarines vs diesel-electric

SEVMASH ; submarines built and in active service of the Russian Navy.

1. K-535 Yury Dolgorukiy (955); in active service from 29 December 2012, Northern fleet (NF)
2. K-550 Alexander Nevsky (955); in active service from 23 December 2013, Pacific fleet (PF)
3. K-560 Severodvinsk (885); in active service from 30 December 2013, NF
4. K-551 Vladimir Monomakh (955); in active service from December 2014; PF
5. K-549 Knyaz Vladimir (955A); in active service from 12 June 2020, NF
6. K-546 Kazan (885M) ; in active service from 5 May 2021, NF
7. K-552 Knyaz Oleg (955A); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
8. K-573 Novosibirsk (955A); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
9. K-329 Belgorod (09852); in active service from 8 July 2022. PF


ADMIRALITY; submarines built and in active service of the Russian Navy. All submarines belong to project 636.3

1. B-261 Novorossiysk; active from 22 August 2014, Black sea fleet (BSF)
2. B-237 Rostov-On-Don; active from 30 December 2014, BSF
3. B-262 Stary Oskol; active from 25 June 2015, BSF
4. B-265 Krasnodar; active from 5 November 2015, BSF
5. B-268 Velikiy Novgorod; active from 25 October 2016, BSF
6. B-271 Kolpino; active from 25 November 2016, BSF
7. B-274 Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky; active from 25 November 2019, PF
8. B-603 Volkhov; active from 24 October 2020, PF
9. B-602 Magadan; active from 12 October 2021. PF


Built submarines in the final stages of testing and before being put into active status;

Sevmash
10. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov (955A), completed all testing
11. K-571 Krasnoyarsk (885M),

Admirality;
10. B-586 Kronshtadt (677)
11. B-588 Ufa (636.3)


In construction;

Sevmash;

12. Imperator Aleksandr III (955A),
13. Knyaz Pozharskiy (955A)
14. Knyaz Potemkin (955A)
15. Dmitry Donskoy (955A)
16. Khabarovsk (09851),
17. K-564 Arkhangelsk (885M),
18. Perm (885M),
19. Ulyanovsk (885M),
20. Voronezh (885M),
21. Vladivostok (885M).

Admirality;

12. Mozhaysk (636.3),
13. Yakutsk (636.3),
14. B-587 Velikiye Luki (677),
15. Vologda (677),
16. Yaroslavl.

In total ; SEVMASH (21); 9 built and active submarines, 2 before being introduced into the active state, 10 under construction
ADMIRALITY (16); 9 built and active submarines, 2 before being introduced into the active state, 5 under construction

Although this is just my guess, I have a feeling that Russia will go for 4 divisions (at least that much) with Multipurpose Nuclear Submarines (MNS), as the Russians refer to Project 885 and 885M. One division has 6 submarines.
The number of nuclear submarines that I have assumed for the future is 12 strategic, 24 multipurpose, 4+ special purposes. So no less than 40 nuclear submarines.
9 have been put into active service, 2 are about to be put into active service and another 10 are under construction. Thats 21 ! So there are 19 left - at least that many. Even in the "darkest" forecasts, I am CONVINCED that the Russian fleet of nuclear submarines will be completely modernized by 2040 at the latest. The oldest submarine will be K-535 "Yuri Dolgorukiy" with 28 years of active service in 2040.

And one interesting thing is the fact that if Russia hands over the submarines K-553 "Generalissimus Suvorov" and K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" to the Russian Navy in December, it will be 11 delivered nuclear submarines in 10 years. What is even more interesting is that there was no introduction into active service of nuclear submarines in the period from K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh" in 2014 to K-549 "Knyaz Vladimir" in 2020. The reason for this is that both projects have been radically improved, that is, the multi-purpose submarines 885M and the strategic 955A.

So, Sevmash did not deliver any nuclear submarines for the WHOLE SIX YEARS (from December 2014 to December 2020), but again managed to deliver 9 submarines (5 submarines have been delivered since June 2020) and two are nearing completion.
If the two mentioned submarines are handed over in December, it means that Sevmash has handed over 7 submarines to the Russian Navy since the beginning of this decade; K-549 Knyaz Vladimir, K-561 Kazan, K-552 Knyaz Oleg, K-573 Novosibirsk, K-329 Belgorod, K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov and K-571 Krasnoyarsk.

Russia currently has in its fleet the following active submarines, submarines in reserve or undergoing modernization;
* 885/885M; 3 submarines,
* 949A; 7 submarines,
* 971; 10 submarines
* 945A; 2 submarines
* 671RTM (K); 2 submarines
Total; 24 submarines

The fate of the next 3 submarines is not completely clear and they are two submarines of project 945; K-239 Karp and K-276 Krab. The same applies to the project 971I "S71 Chakra" submarine.
Submarines K-119 Voronezh (949A) and apparently K-391 Bratsk (971) were withdrawn from service.


- SSBN; Project Borei is nearing completion, unless the Russians decide to build more than 12 submarines. Except for the 9th submarine "Knyaz Potemkin" and the 10th submarine "Dmitry Donskoy", all others are near the end of construction. It remains to lay the keels for two more project 955A submarines.

- SPNS (special purpose nuclear submarine); K-329 Belgorod (09852), K-XXX Khabarovsk and the question is whether two, three or additional submarines of project 09851/09853.

- MNS; 9 submarines of the project 885/885M have been built or are under construction and 15 more remain to be built. It is a very easy task for Sevmash and I guess that the only thing Sevmash still needs to do is the modernization of "Peter the Great".

I would use the free space after the Boreis are finished to built Laika and keep the 885M running until all testing of the Laika is completed and all problems of the serial production are solved and only then switch completely to Laika.

They have all the akula, sierea and victor to replace. The Yasen replaced nothing. They just bring back a respectable amount of nuclear subs in service. Before the introduction of Yasen they used to have less than 10 SSN in service since some are always into repair or modernization.

IMO Yasen is too much to replace old SSN. They need something cheaper and smaller.

The modernization on Akula, Victor and Sierra allows to keep them few years more until a new sub is designed. Starting 2025 they will have to buy more Yasen or introduce the Laika.

lancelot wrote:I doubt they will build 24 Project 885/885M submarines. I think they will build at most a dozen of them. Maybe the eleven currently planned. Or even just the nine currently either built or under construction. They will likely switch to the Laika after that.

Now that Sevmash's facilities have been upgraded the sooner they switch to the Laika the better. Newer designs are expected to be faster to build since they will use large block construction techniques which take advantage of the new facilities.

I agree. The bottom line is that I wrote that the Russians probably have a plan to have (at least) 4 divisions with 6 multipurpose nuclear submarines each. Those four divisions will be made up of 885M submarines and probably some new project to come.

November 18, 01:42

The source said that the nuclear submarine "Daniel Moskovskiy / Saint Daniel of Moscow" was sent for recycling

The work will be carried out by one of the ship repair enterprises in the north of Russia

MOSCOW, 18 November. /TASS/. Nuclear submarine (NPS) "Saint Daniel of Moscow" of project 671RTMK of the Northern Fleet was sent for recycling to one of the enterprises in the north of Russia. This was reported to TASS by a source in the shipbuilding industry.

"The nuclear submarine" St. Daniel of Moscow "made its last trip to the sea a week earlier - it was transferred to one of the ship repair enterprises in the north of the country for further disposal," he said.
According to the interlocutor of the agency, work on the dismantling of nuclear submarines has not yet begun.

TASS does not have official confirmation of this information.


One more thing;
Let me just add that this is not a surprise and that it was decided back in April 2013 that the submarine would not undergo modernization, and that it would be withdrawn from active service by 2015 - since then it has not been active. The submarine belongs to project 671RTM(K) and this suffix "K" means that it can launch S-10 "Granat" cruise missiles.
Only two Project 671 RTM(K) Schchuka submarines remain in service; B-138 Obninsk and B-448 Tambov. Both submarines have been modernized and should soon return to active service.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/16363147

lancelot wrote:The Victor III and the Delta III/IV need to go. Their use of the VM-4 reactor means they use wildly different propulsion from all other ships. And Victor III is way behind technologically. As Yasen-M comes online the Victor III gets retired.

Yasen is made to replace existing subs. They are made to increase numbers and they are SSGN not SSN.

Victor III need to be replaced by a real SSN that should be smaller than Yasen.

Last Delta still have the potential to remain in service for a long time. Switch their ICBM for cruise missiles VLS. At least 3 such SSGN would give a nice power up to their fleet.

lancelot wrote:The Victor III and the Delta III/IV need to go. Their use of the VM-4 reactor means they use wildly different propulsion from all other ships. And Victor III is way behind technologically. As Yasen-M comes online the Victor III gets retired.

I suspect that two to three 667 BDRM submarines will be decommissioned in the next few years.

1. K-51 "Verkhoturye" completed the last overhaul and partial modernization in December 2012 (detailed modernization in the period from 1993 to 1999) and is approaching the end of its operational life.
In active service since December 29, 1984. (38 years)

2. K-84 "Ekaterinburg"; it was thoroughly modernized in the period from 1996 to 2003 and on December 8, 2011 it was placed in a floating dock to extend its operational life by 3.5 years. On December 29, a fire broke out on the submarine and the submarine was returned to service only in 2014 after repairs and overhaul. In 2021, it was still active, and then it was announced that it would be withdrawn from service by the end of 2022. Ekaterinburg is probably in reserve.
In active service since December 30, 1985. (37 years)

3. BS-64 "Podmoskovye"; this submarine was the strategic submarine of project 667 BDRM until 1999. During 2002, the missile silos were removed from the submarine. In February 2008, work began on the submarine and its conversion into a special purpose submarine of project 09787. The overhaul and modernization of project 09787 was completed on December 26, 2016, and since then the submarine has been active again. This submarine will certainly remain active until the end of this decade and probably much longer than that.
In active service since December 23, 1986. (36 years)

4. K-114 "Tula"; this submarine was last overhauled from December 15, 2014 to January 9, 2018. The submarine is active and its operational life will not expire until at least 2028.
In active service since October 30, 1987. (35 years)

5. K-117 "Bryansk"; Detailed modernization was carried out from 2002 to 2008. In September 2018, the overhaul of this submarine began and it is still located in Zvezdochka. It is planned that after the overhaul the submarine will serve another "3.5 years", but it can be 5 years without any problems.
In active service since September 30, 1988. (34 years)

6. K-18 "Karelia"; This submarine underwent detailed repair and modernization from 2006 to 2010. The operational life has been extended to 10 years and it has been active since January 22, 2010. This submarine needs a new overhaul and will be sent to it after the overhaul of the submarine "Bryansk".
In active service since October 10, 1989. (33 years)

7. K-407 "Novomoskovsk"; from 2008 to 2012, a detailed repair and modernization of the submarine was carried out. After the modernization, the operational life was extended by 10 years, which means that it should go for overhaul soon.
In active service since December 1st, 1990. (32 years).



It is possible that the Russians will not carry out the overhaul of either the K-18 "Karelia" submarine or the K-407 "Novomoskovsk" because the project 955A "Borei-A" submarines are rapidly leaving the Sevmash shipyard. It is certain that the K-114 "Tula" still has a few more years ahead of it, while the "Bryansk" will just come back from overhaul.
On the other hand, "Verkhoturye" and "Ekaterinburg" are certainly counting their last days in the 31st submarine division of the Northern Fleet.
However, I think that at least two to three 667 BDRM submarines will wait for the next decade, that is, until the construction of the 11th and 12th "Borei" submarines (8th and 9th 955A "Borei-A") is completed.

lancelot wrote:Since K-553 "Generalissimo Suvorov" will be going into the Pacific Fleet it will likely replace K-44 "Ryazan". The last Delta III SSBN.

I think so too, that is, the K-553 will replace the K-44.
K-44 "Ryazan" was under overhaul from June 1, 2013 to February 15, 2017, when it was returned to active service. The overhaul was extensive and it is not impossible that the submarine still has some resources left.
On November 24, 1982, K-44 was included in the Northern Fleet 13th submarine division based in Olenya Bay. 5 more days and the submarine will complete 40 years of active service.
From August to September 2008, the submarine was on its way to its last duty station - the Pacific Fleet and 25th submarine division.
Although it is still officially in the 25th submarine division with K-550 "Alexander Nevsky" (955 Borei), K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh" (955) and K-552 "Knyaz Oleg" (955A Borei-A), this submarine has 40 years of active service and will probably be retired from active service next year or in 2024.
The Navykorabel.ru blog states that in 2020, the K-44 was reclassified from a strategic submarine to an attack submarine, although the submarine is part of the 25th division, which only includes strategic submarines.

Lancelot, there is one more 667 BDR "Kalmar" (squid) or NATO designation; Delta III and that is a submarine BS-136 "Orenburg"...  
I know you know that yourself because this submarine was converted into a project 09786 submarine.
The modernization into that project was completed in 2002. Last year, "Orenburg" was in the dock for overhaul and there was even talk of its modernization, although many doubted it due to the submarine's age. There is no official information on whether the overhaul has been completed, whether it is in progress or whether it has been abandoned.
This submarine has been active since April 15, 1981 and is the oldest operational submarine of the Russian Navy. Next in age is the submarine TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" (project 09412 or 941UM for short) which has been active since December 29, 1981.

Podlodka77 wrote:

lancelot wrote:Since K-553 "Generalissimo Suvorov" will be going into the Pacific Fleet it will likely replace K-44 "Ryazan". The last Delta III SSBN.

I think so too, that is, the K-553 will replace the K-44.
K-44 "Ryazan" was under overhaul from June 1, 2013 to February 15, 2017, when it was returned to active service. The overhaul was extensive and it is not impossible that the submarine still has some resources left.
On November 24, 1982, K-44 was included in the Northern Fleet 13th submarine division based in Olenya Bay. 5 more days and the submarine will complete 40 years of active service.
From August to September 2008, the submarine was on its way to its last duty station - the Pacific Fleet and 25th submarine division.
Although it is still officially in the 25th submarine division with K-550 "Alexander Nevsky" (955 Borei), K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh" (955) and K-552 "Knyaz Oleg" (955A Borei-A), this submarine has 40 years of active service and will probably be retired from active service next year or in 2024.
The Navykorabel.ru blog states that in 2020, the K-44 was reclassified from a strategic submarine to an attack submarine, although the submarine is part of the 25th division, which only includes strategic submarines.

Lancelot, there is one more 667 BDR "Kalmar" (squid) or NATO designation; Delta III and that is a submarine BS-136 "Orenburg"...  
I know you know that yourself because this submarine was converted into a project 09786 submarine.
The modernization into that project was completed in 2002. Last year, "Orenburg" was in the dock for overhaul and there was even talk of its modernization, although many doubted it due to the submarine's age. There is no official information on whether the overhaul has been completed, whether it is in progress or whether it has been abandoned.
This submarine has been active since April 15, 1981 and is the oldest operational submarine of the Russian Navy. Next in age is the submarine TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" (project 09412 or 941UM for short) which has been active since December 29, 1981.

No, the K-553 does not replace the K-44
The K-553 has had its own crew since the beginning of the year, the crew of the K-44 is a different one

When the K-44 is to be replaced, it will be withdrawn a year earlier and its crew will go to sea trials of the new submarine.
Since the K-44 is included in the 10th Submarine Division, it is most likely that its crew will be assigned to a new Yasen Class or it will be assigned to one of the 949AM that are in the shipyard

About BS-136, is out of service since 2015, moored in Severovdonsk, the necessary repair will not be carried out since in a few years more submarines carrying "Poseidon" will enter service

Podlodka77 wrote:

lancelot wrote:The Victor III and the Delta III/IV need to go. Their use of the VM-4 reactor means they use wildly different propulsion from all other ships. And Victor III is way behind technologically. As Yasen-M comes online the Victor III gets retired.

I suspect that two to three 667 BDRM submarines will be decommissioned in the next few years.


It is possible that the Russians will not carry out the overhaul of either the K-18 "Karelia" submarine or the K-407 "Novomoskovsk" because the project 955A "Borei-A" submarines are rapidly leaving the Sevmash shipyard. It is certain that the K-114 "Tula" still has a few more years ahead of it, while the "Bryansk" will just come back from overhaul.
On the other hand, "Verkhoturye" and "Ekaterinburg" are certainly counting their last days in the 31st submarine division of the Northern Fleet.
However, I think that at least two to three 667 BDRM submarines will wait for the next decade, that is, until the construction of the 11th and 12th "Borei" submarines (8th and 9th 955A "Borei-A") is completed.

Ekaterinburg is out
Bryansk is in shipyard, probably not will enter service again since in 2024 the 8th 955A submarine will arrive to North fleet
By 2030 the 12 Boreys should be in service and the Delta IV out of service

1. In July, the Orenburg city authorities visited the Orenburg submarine.
Sergey Salmin congratulated the crew of the Orenburg nuclear submarine
News feed July 31, 13:55

At present, the delegation of Orenburg headed by Sergey Salmin is in the Murmansk region, where the sponsored nuclear submarine "Orenburg" is based among the nuclear submarines of the Northern Fleet. Today the delegation is taking part in the celebrations dedicated to the Day of the Navy.

Congratulating the sailors on their professional holiday, Sergey Salmin noted that Orenburg and the Northern Sea Fleet have a long history of cooperation. Among the residents of our city and region there are many who once served in the Navy and those who today continue to carry out combat watch, including on the Orenburg nuclear submarine.

“We are proud that the navy has a submarine bearing the name of our city. For any Orenburg citizen to serve on it is prestigious and honorable. Young guys go through a real school of life here, temper their character and willpower, gain a unique experience. We highly appreciate the friendship that has been binding us for many years and we hope that these relations will only grow stronger and develop,” Sergey Salmin emphasized.

On behalf of all residents of Orenburg, the Head of the city thanked the commander and all the personnel for conscientious service, loyalty to duty, professionalism and wished him good health, well-being and success in fulfilling the assigned tasks.




The submarine was delivered for overhaul, video from the Russian state television for the city of Orenburg...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjawtO1mLz7AhUtM-wKHakeDy8QFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvestirama.ru%2Fvesti-orenburzhya%2Fsyuzhetyi%2Fpodvodnuyu-lodku-orenburg-dostavili-na-remont-v-severodvinsk.html&usg=AOvVaw2fc0GnrPhrvK5BB02IhOEb

The submarine "Orenburg" was delivered to Severodvinsk for overhaul

Repair of the submarine was not planned. The nuclear-powered vessel was urgently relocated in tow due to a malfunction in the steam turbine installation at the Zvyozdochka shipbuilding plant in Severodvinsk.
Recall that the Orenburg nuclear submarine is part of the Russian Navy as a special-purpose nuclear submarine as part of the 29th separate brigade of submarines of the Northern Fleet. It is based in the Murmansk region. "Orenburg" is the carrier of the nuclear deep-sea station of the Losharik project, one of the most secret submarines of the Russian fleet. On September 8, 1998, the submarine received the name Orenburg. In 1999, the government of the Orenburg region took over the patronage of the submarine.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvestirama.ru%2Fnovosti%2Fpodvodnuyu-lodku-orenburg-dostavili-na-remont-010715.html&psig=AOvVaw1iaB4twBvNddFd2NdFJOZL&ust=1669014747899000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBEQjhxqFwoTCPjNtM2avPsCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

The K-44 Ryazan has been part of the 25th Division of Strategic Submarines since 2008, and nothing has changed in that regard.
http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/nbrs/667BDR/K-44/K-44.htm

The fact that the crew from a decommissioned submarine goes to training for another (new) submarine has nothing to do with the fact that the K-553 will replace the K-44, because the K-44 no longer serves its original purpose. The K-44 was allegedly reclassified in 2020 as a PLAT (nuclear submarine armed with torpedoes or in Russian подводная лодка атомная торпедная.  
I know there is more detailed information about it, but I can't find it now. In any case, the K-44 is no longer classified as a strategic submarine or RPKSN in Russian but as a PLAK, but it is part of the 25th submarine division.

Podlodka77 wrote:1. In July, the Orenburg city authorities visited the Orenburg submarine.
Sergey Salmin congratulated the crew of the Orenburg nuclear submarine
News feed July 31, 13:55

At present, the delegation of Orenburg headed by Sergey Salmin is in the Murmansk region, where the sponsored nuclear submarine "Orenburg" is based among the nuclear submarines of the Northern Fleet. Today the delegation is taking part in the celebrations dedicated to the Day of the Navy.

Congratulating the sailors on their professional holiday, Sergey Salmin noted that Orenburg and the Northern Sea Fleet have a long history of cooperation. Among the residents of our city and region there are many who once served in the Navy and those who today continue to carry out combat watch, including on the Orenburg nuclear submarine.

“We are proud that the navy has a submarine bearing the name of our city. For any Orenburg citizen to serve on it is prestigious and honorable. Young guys go through a real school of life here, temper their character and willpower, gain a unique experience. We highly appreciate the friendship that has been binding us for many years and we hope that these relations will only grow stronger and develop,” Sergey Salmin emphasized.

On behalf of all residents of Orenburg, the Head of the city thanked the commander and all the personnel for conscientious service, loyalty to duty, professionalism and wished him good health, well-being and success in fulfilling the assigned tasks.




The submarine was delivered for overhaul, video from the Russian state television for the city of Orenburg...


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjawtO1mLz7AhUtM-wKHakeDy8QFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvestirama.ru%2Fvesti-orenburzhya%2Fsyuzhetyi%2Fpodvodnuyu-lodku-orenburg-dostavili-na-remont-v-severodvinsk.html&usg=AOvVaw2fc0GnrPhrvK5BB02IhOEb

The submarine "Orenburg" was delivered to Severodvinsk for overhaul

Repair of the submarine was not planned. The nuclear-powered vessel was urgently relocated in tow due to a malfunction in the steam turbine installation at the Zvyozdochka shipbuilding plant in Severodvinsk.
Recall that the Orenburg nuclear submarine is part of the Russian Navy as a special-purpose nuclear submarine as part of the 29th separate brigade of submarines of the Northern Fleet. It is based in the Murmansk region. "Orenburg" is the carrier of the nuclear deep-sea station of the Losharik project, one of the most secret submarines of the Russian fleet. On September 8, 1998, the submarine received the name Orenburg. In 1999, the government of the Orenburg region took over the patronage of the submarine.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvestirama.ru%2Fnovosti%2Fpodvodnuyu-lodku-orenburg-dostavili-na-remont-010715.html&psig=AOvVaw1iaB4twBvNddFd2NdFJOZL&ust=1669014747899000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBEQjhxqFwoTCPjNtM2avPsCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

The K-44 Ryazan has been part of the 25th Division of Strategic Submarines since 2008, and nothing has changed in that regard.
http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/nbrs/667BDR/K-44/K-44.htm

The fact that the crew from a decommissioned submarine goes to training for another (new) submarine has nothing to do with the fact that the K-553 will replace the K-44, because the K-44 no longer serves its original purpose. The K-44 was allegedly reclassified in 2020 as a PLAT (nuclear submarine armed with torpedoes or in Russian подводная лодка атомная торпедная.  
I know there is more detailed information about it, but I can't find it now. In any case, the K-44 is no longer classified as a strategic submarine or RPKSN in Russian but as a PLAK, but it is part of the 25th submarine division.

The Orenburg has not sailed for years, and the fact that it has moved to Severovdinsk was due to the supposed fire of a Losharik that cost the lives of several sailors and also affected the ship.
The possibility of sew repairing is almost zero, the news is more or less propaganda to misinform the enemy, the truth is that the ship exhausted its operational period from 2004 to 2015 and in any case needed an intermediate repair that has not been carried out.

The crew of the submarine cruiser is itself a military unit (BS-136 = military unit 04544, similar to a regiment) and continues to exist regardless of whether the submarine ship is out of service/damaged/in repairs, or in reserve.

About K-44, Navy Korabel says was reclasificated and transferred to 10 Division, in the post 3 january 2022, however the link to the page redstar.ru is locked in my country
https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/257457.html

At the beginning of January of this year, Russia had a ship under construction with a full displacement of 315,000 tons.
Already almost more than 10% of that list can be taken away because the K-329 "Belgorod" submarine was handed over to the Russian Navy. If both the K-553 "Generalissimus Suvorov" and the "K-571 Krasnoyarsk" are delivered to the Navy, that's at least another 24,000 tons for the Borei and less than 13,800 tons for the Yasen, since the Yasen-M supposedly has a smaller full displacement. So almost 20% of the full displacement is "taken off" by these three submarines.



The list does not include icebreaking patrol ships of project 23350, small missile ships of projects 21631 and 22800, as well as patrol ships of project 22160, minesweepers of project 12700
Why are there no smaller ships ? Honestly, I don't know, because it's possible that he didn't include ships of less than 2000 tons displacement, which again raises the question why icebreaking patrol ships are not on the list because they have 8500 tons of full displacement per ship.
Anyway, according to this indicator, Russia is the third in the world after the USA (389,000) tons and the Chinese with 338,000 tons.
Almost half of the full displacement of the American number belongs to the construction of one "Gerald Ford" class aircraft carrier and the construction of one "America" ​​class amphibious assault ship.



Under construction on 01/01/2022:
5 SSBNs project 955A,
3 SSBNs with Poseidon of projects 09852, 09851 and 09853; the mistake is that the submarine "Ulyanovsk" is classified here. The other two are "Belgorod" (active) and Khabarovsk.
5 SSGNs project 885M,
2 submarines project 677.1,
3 submarines project 636.3,
2 FR projects 22350 mod. I,
4 FR project 22350 mod. II,
1 KRV project 20386,
2 KRV project 20385,
5 KRV project 20380 mod. III,
2 UDC pr. 23900,
2 TDK pr. 11711 mod. II.


In 2021, laid down: 2 SSBN 955A, 2 PL 636.3, 1 KRV 20385, 2 KRV 20380 (III);
in 2020 laid down; - 2 SSGN 885M, 2 FR 22350 (II), 2 UDC 23900.
What worries me a bit is that the keels for only 4 units have been laid for construction this year; two project 677 submarines and two project 20385 corvettes. Well, there's time. Next year must be busy, although I wouldn't be surprised if there are new things by the end of this year.

Sevmash vs Admiralty....nuclear submarines vs diesel-electric
Right now it's 10:9 for Admiralty, but I expect Sevmash to lead by the end of the year with 10:11 or it will be 11:11 if the Admiralty manages to hand over the B-586 Kronshtadt to the Navy as well..
I am adding in the text in BLACK letters what is new since November 9, when I wrote the first text.


SEVMASH ; submarines built and in active service of the Russian Navy.

From 2012 to 2019; 4 submarines;
1. K-535 Yury Dolgorukiy (955); in active service from 29 December 2012, Northern fleet (NF)
2. K-550 Alexander Nevsky (955); in active service from 23 December 2013, Pacific fleet (PF)
3. K-560 Severodvinsk (885); in active service from 30 December 2013, NF
4. K-551 Vladimir Monomakh (955); in active service from December 2014; PF

From 2020 to 2022; 7 submarines;
5. K-549 Knyaz Vladimir (955A); in active service from 12 June 2020, NF
6. K-546 Kazan (885M) ; in active service from 5 May 2021, NF
7. K-552 Knyaz Oleg (955A); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
8. K-573 Novosibirsk (955A); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
9. K-329 Belgorod (09852); in active service from 8 July 2022. PF
10. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov (955A); Announced to be active until the end of December 2022. PF
11. K-571 Krasnoyarsk (885M); Announced to be active until the end of December 2022. PF

ADMIRALITY; submarines built and in active service of the Russian Navy. All submarines belong to project 636.3

From 2014 to 2019; 7 submarines
1. B-261 Novorossiysk; active from 22 August 2014, Black sea fleet (BSF)
2. B-237 Rostov-On-Don; active from 30 December 2014, BSF
3. B-262 Stary Oskol; active from 25 June 2015, BSF
4. B-265 Krasnodar; active from 5 November 2015, BSF
5. B-268 Velikiy Novgorod; active from 25 October 2016, BSF
6. B-271 Kolpino; active from 25 November 2016, BSF
7. B-274 Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky; active from 25 November 2019, PF

From 2020 to 2022; 3 submarines
8. B-603 Volkhov; active from 24 October 2020, PF
9. B-602 Magadan; active from 12 October 2021. PF
10. B-588 Ufa; active from November 16, 2022. PF


Built submarines in the final stages of testing and before being put into active status;

Sevmash
10. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov (955A), Announced to be active until the end of December 2022
11. K-571 Krasnoyarsk (885M), Announced to be active until the end of December 2022

Admirality;
10. B-586 Kronshtadt (677)
11. B-588 Ufa (636.3) - active


In construction;

Sevmash;

12. Imperator Aleksandr III (955A),
13. Knyaz Pozharskiy (955A)
14. Knyaz Potemkin (955A)
15. Dmitry Donskoy (955A)
16. Khabarovsk (09851),
17. K-564 Arkhangelsk (885M),
18. Perm (885M),
19. Ulyanovsk (885M),
20. Voronezh (885M),
21. Vladivostok (885M).

Admirality;

12. Mozhaysk (636.3),
13. Yakutsk (636.3),
14. B-587 Velikiye Luki (677),
15. Vologda (677),
16. Yaroslavl.

SEVMASH (21); 11 built and 9 active submarines, 10 under construction
ADMIRALITY (16); 11 built and 10 active submarines, 5 under construction
In total (37); 22 built and 19 active submarines, 15 under construction.


What I am most interested in is the date when K-564 Arkhangelsk (885M) and K-XXX "Imperator Aleksandr III" belonging to the 955A project will be launched. I expect also the third nuclear submarine on the water soon, that is K-XXX "Khabarovsk" (09851).

Nuclear submarines in the Russian Navy. from the oldest to the youngest.

1980s

1. BS-136 "Orenburg" (Project 09786), active from November 30, 1981; 40 years, 11 months, 26 days

2. TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" (Project 941UM), active from December 29, 1981 ; 40 years, 10 months, 27 days

3. K-44 "Ryazan" (project 667 BDR), active from September 17, 1982; 40 years, 2 months, 8 days

4. K-51 "Verkhoturye" (667 BDRM), active from 28.12.1984; 37 years, 10 months, 28 days

5. BS-64 "Podmoskovye" (Project 09787), active from 23.12.1986; 35 years, 11 months, 2 days

6. K-114 "Tula" (Project 667BDRM); active from 30.10.1987; 35 years, 26 days

7. K-117 "Bryansk" (project 667 BDRM); active from 30.09.1988; 34 years, 1 month, 26 days

8. K-132 "Irkutsk" (Project 949AM), active from 30.12.1988; 33 years, 10 months, 26 days

9. K-18 "Karelia" (Project 667BDRM); active from 10.10.1989; 33 years, 1 month, 15 days

1990s

10. K-407 "Novomoskovsk" (Project 667 BDRM), active from 27.11.1990; 32 years, 4 days

11. K-410 "Smolensk" (Project 949A), active from 22.12.1990; 31 years, 10 months, 3 days

12. K-331 "ex-Magadan" (Project 971), active from 23.12.1990; 31 years, 11 months, 2 days

13. B-534 "Nizhny Novgorod" (Project 945A), active from 26.12.1990; 31 years, 10 months, 30 days

14. K-317 "Pantera" (Project 971), active from 27.12.1990, 31 years, 10 months, 29 days

15. K-442 "Chelyabinsk" (Project 949AM), active from 29.12.1990, 31 years, 10 months, 27 days

17. B-138 "Obninsk" (Project 671 RTMK), active from 30.12.1990, 31 years, 10 months, 26 days

16. K-461 "Volk" (971M), active from 29.12.1991; 30 years, 10 months, 27 days

18. K-456 "Tver" (949A), active from 18.08.1992; 30 years, 3 months, 7 days

19. B-448 "Tambov" (Project 671 RTMK), active from 24.09.1992; 30 years, 2 months, 1 day

20. K-328 "Leopard" (971M), active from 30.12.1992; 29 years, 10 months, 26 days

21. K-266 "Orel" (949A), active from 30.12.1992; 29 years, 10 months, 26 days

22. K-419 "Kuzbass" (971U), active from 31.12.1992; 29 years, 10 months, 25 days

23. K-186 "Omsk" (949A), active from 15.12.1993; 28 years, 11 months, 10 days

24. B-336 "Pskov" (945A), active from 17.12.1993; 28 years, 11 months, 12 days

25. K-154 "Tigr" (971; under repair and modernization), active from 29.12.1993; 28 years, 10 months, 27 days

26. K-295 "Samara" (971M), active from 17.07.1995; 27 years, 4 months, 8 days

27. K-157 "Vepr" (971U); active from  25.11.1995; 27 years (BIRTHDAY)

28. K-150 "Tomsk" (949A); active from 25 years, 10 months, 26 days

2000s

29. K-335 "Gepard" (971U), active from 05.12.2001; 20 years, 11 months, 20 days

2010S

30. K-535 "Yuri Dolgorukiy" (955), active from 29.12.2012; 9 years, 10 months, 27 days

31. K-550 "Alexander Nevsky" (955), active from 23.12.2013; 8 years, 11 months, 2 days

32. K-560 "Severodvinsk" (885), active from 30.12.2013; 8 years, 10 months, 26 days

33. K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh" (955), active from 19.12.2014; 7 years, 11 months, 6 days

2020s

34. K-552 "Knyaz Vladimir" (955A), active from 12.06.2020; 2 years, 5 months, 13 days

35, K-561 "Kazan" (885M), active 05.05.2021; 1 year, 6 months, 20 days

36. K-552 "Knyaz Oleg" (955A), active from 21.12.2021; 11 months, 4 days

37. K-573 "Novosibirsk" (885M); active from 21.12.2021; 11 months, 4 days

38. K-329 "Belgorod" (09852), active from 08.07.2022;  4 months, 17 days

39. K-553 "Generalissimus Suvorov" (955A), will enter active service soon..

40. K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" (885M), will enter active service soon..

I did not include two more titanium submarines of project 945 "Barracuda" in the list because their status is unknown and K-152 "Nerpa" (971I).

GarryB The Russians used the so-called Rim Drive as a maneuver or emergency drive in the new 955A. The electric motor is at the same time a screw or a propeller. Borey-A has four such engines / thrusters.

Thus, with the submarines K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" and K-553 "Generalissimus Suvorov", the number of delivered submarines is 7 since the beginning of 2020.
Even in the "worst" scenario, Sevmash will deliver 10 more submarines that are currently under construction by the end of this decade, which will raise the number from the mentioned 7 to 17 delivered submarines in the 2020s compared to 4 delivered in the 2010s.
If by any chance the construction of one or two more submarines starts in December this year, then this number will be 18 to 19 delivered submarines in the 2020s.


Active and soon to be active..
From 2020 to 2022; 7 submarines;
1. K-549 Knyaz Vladimir (955A); in active service from 12 June 2020, NF
2. K-546 Kazan (885M) ; in active service from 5 May 2021, NF
3. K-552 Knyaz Oleg (955A); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
4. K-573 Novosibirsk (885M); in active service from 21 December 2021, PF
5. K-329 Belgorod (09852); in active service from 8 July 2022. PF
6. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov (955A); Announced to be active until the end of December 2022. PF
7. K-571 Krasnoyarsk (885M); Announced to be active until the end of December 2022. PF

Under construction and I believe these submarines will soon be launched ; B-XXX "Khabarovsk", K-564 "Arkhangelsk" and K-XXX "Emperor Alexander III". I am of the opinion that the first 6 submarines from this table will be launched by the end of 2024

8. B-XXX "Khabarovsk", project 09851 SPNS (special purpose nuclear submarine), in construction since 27.07.2014,
9. K-564 "Arkhangelsk", project 885M "Yasen-M", in construction since 18.03.2015,
10. K-XXX "Imperator Aleksandr III", project 955A "Borei-A", in construction since 18.12.2015,
11. K-XXX "Perm", project 885M "Yasen-M",in construction since 29.07.2016,
12. K-XXX "Knyaz Pozharskiy", project 955A "Borei-A", in construction since 23.12.2016,
13. K-XXX "Ulyanovsk", project 885M "Yasen-M", in construction since 27.07.2017,
14. K-XXX "Voronezh", project 885M "Yasen-M", in construction since 20.07.2020,
15. K-XXX "Vladivostok", project 885M "Yasen-M", in construction since 20.07.2020,
16. K-XXX "Knayz Potemkin", project 955A "Borei-A",in construction since 23.08.2021,
17. K-XXX "Dmitry Donskoy", project 955A "Borei-A", in construction since 23.08.2021.

What is already known is the signing of the contract for two more 955A submarines and the plan to build two more 885M submarines. So it is my opinion that in the next few years many keels will be laid for new submarines and the deliveries of those future submarines will go at a rapid rate at the beginning of the 2030s like the 7 submarines delivered in 2020 to 2022.
The Borei-A submarines are larger than the Yasen-M and any future successor of Yasen-M submarines, so with the 955A submarines coming out of the slipway, more space is left for 09851/09853, 885M, as well as some future projects.

I know, and some submarines also use separate small screws that run on emergency power to provide low speed thrust when on patrol in a low noise mode or to get home under power if there is serious damage or main power is lost some how.

But I am talking about their next surface fleet projects after Corvettes and Frigates are in serial production and they look to make Destroyer and Cruiser sized ships... likely they will be electric drive vessels with nuclear power production systems, which makes more exotic and flexible propulsion systems a likely choice moving forward.

@Podlodka77

13. K-XXX "Ulyanovsk", project 885M "Yasen-M", in construction since 27.07.2017,

Ulyanovsk is no longer an 885M, it was changed to pr.09853

What is already known is the signing of the contract for two more 955A submarines and the plan to build two more 885M submarines. So it is my opinion that in the next few years many keels will be laid for new submarines and the deliveries of those future submarines will go at a rapid rate at the beginning of the 2030s like the 7 submarines delivered in 2020 to 2022
The Borei-A submarines are larger than the Yasen-M and any future successor of Yasen-M submarines, so with the 955A submarines coming out of the slipway, more space is left for 09851/09853, 885M, as well as some future projects.
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The construction time of the submarines will not change much, it is to be assumed that the 12 Boreys will be there by 2030 and then another type of SSN submarine will begin to replace the Akula´s and Sierra´s

By 2030 there should also be 10 Yasen, although I am inclined to think that there should be a total of 12, that's not counting the Ulyanovsk and the Khabarovsk, which I don't really know what type of submarine hull it is based on.

In reality, I think that the first Yasen 855, the Severodvinsk (about 10 meters longer than 885M), should be transformed into another 09853 Poseidon and order an additional Yasen 885M

You're late AMCXXL, I already had a discussion about this a few months ago..

I also stated earlier that the submarine "Ulyanovsk" is submarine 09853 of the project, because it was announced on TASS that the submarine with that name will be delivered by 2025 as 09853 project.
After that, many wrote on the forum that this is not true and that "Ulyanovsk" is an 885M submarine. And Navykorabel states that this submarine belongs to the 09853 project for months. But it is not impossible that the journalists misunderstood everything and that the submarine might be "Ulan-Ude"...

If already "Ulyanovsk" is not a submarine of the 885M project but 09853, then from your writing about "10 Yasen" submarines until 2030 there will be nothing.
Currently we have one 885 submarine and seven 885M (if Ulyanovsk is not already 885M). Thats 8 !
Given that K -564 "Arkhangelsk" is under construction since March 2015 and not yet launched, it is not impossible that the money was diverted to other weapons systems because of the SMO.

So my assumption for another 10 submarines by the end of the 2020s remains, although it seems to me that it is a mistake to delay the larger production of SSN/SSGN submarines..
Almost all submarines of projects 971, 949A are approaching the end of their operational life, and I think it is complete idiocy to modernize the submarines "Irkutsk", "Chelyabinsk", which are already over 30 years old from the moment they were launched.
My opinion is that the number of nuclear submarines will continue to decrease to a certain level, only to later return to at least 12 SSBNs, no less than 24 SSN/SSGNs, as well as several SPNS project 09851/09852/09853 submarines.

I think Ulyanovsk is the 885M project. As for the 09853 project, the keel laying of this submarine took place without ceremony and it has a different name. The 09853 project itself is unofficially based on the 955A project. Like the 09851, it is based on the 955. These are scaled down versions of the SSBN. The project 09851/09853 itself is highly classified due to the Poseidon project, which will be a completely new system of strategic deterrence of Russia.

y opinion is that the number of nuclear submarines will continue to decrease to a certain level, only to later return to at least 12 SSBNs, no less than 24 SSN/SSGNs, as well as several SPNS project 09851/09852/09853 submarines. wrote:

It should be remembered that the current SSN / SSNG 885M have much greater firepower than the ships of the previous generation. The Yasen M in the role of SSGN is more powerful than the 949A with the older 24 P-700 Granit. Now the Yasen M is much quieter, better automated and can carry up to 32 Cirkon and other missiles.