Syrian War: News #19

Russia agreed to let Turks into Syria, knowing Turks are the biggest enemies of Russia on the planet. How stupid is that?

Russia should ship thousands of Kornet anti tank missiles to SAA and blow up every tank Turks send into Syria. Every f tank. Turks need to be taught manners.

If Turkey attack Syrian army positions ,those planes will get shot down..

The fighters seem to be there to protect the helicopters rescuing the soldiers at the observation posts. There was no strikes from the air and no air battle, at least for the moment.

Sukhoi must have been send to escort them to Turkey.

Today's bombing on the people who hate Russia.

ultimatewarrior wrote:Russia should ship thousands of Kornet anti tank missiles to SAA and blow up every tank Turks send into Syria. Every f tank. Turks need to be taught manners.

Syrian army artillery and support from Russian airforce is superior any day ,than any supplied  kornet missiles by turkey to the rebels.. So having thousands of Kornet will not give an advantage to Turkey..  This is because Syrian army also have thousands of Kornet missiles.. So is not like they lack of them.. in fact Syrian army have 10km range thermobaric kornets..This is twice the range of the traditional kornets Turkey use or Iranians use..

What will come handy for Syrian army is that Russia provides them with Koalitsiya self propelled artillery.. that can reach 70km range.. Turkey self propelled artillery is the one NATO use, with a max range of 50km for comparison.. So Russia will own Turkey or even Americans any day in an artillery duel , if Russia really wanted to go into a fight with them..

Vann7 wrote:

ultimatewarrior wrote:Russia should ship thousands of Kornet anti tank missiles to SAA and blow up every tank Turks send into Syria. Every f tank. Turks need to be taught manners.

Syrian army artillery and support from Russian airforce is superior any day ,than any supplied  kornet missiles by turkey to the rebels.. So having thousands of Kornet will not give an advantage to Turkey..  This is because Syrian army also have thousands of Kornet missiles.. So is not like they lack of them.. in fact Syrian army have 10km range thermobaric kornets..This is twice the range of the traditional kornets Turkey use or Iranians use..

What will come handy for Syrian army is that Russia provides them with Koalitsiya self propelled artillery.. that can reach 70km range.. Turkey self propelled artillery is the one NATO use, with a max range of 50km for comparison..  So Russia will own Turkey or even Americans any day in an artillery duel , if Russia really wanted to go into a fight with them..

Russia support to SAA has been minimal because of agreement with Russia's enemy Turkey. SAA has very few Kornet. No more than a few hundred at best. Turkey armed NLF has thousands of illegally reverse engineered Kornet missiles supplied by Turkey.

NLF uses another Turkey supplied illegally reverse engineered Kornet missile to shoot a tank.

@ Miketheterrible

Agree . Russia patience with Turkey may finally pay off . If it means Turkish troops in Eastern Syria, instead of Yank troops . Turks will dismantle separatist kurds , put end to their dream of separate homeland . Syria and Russia should let them in , if it means withdrawal of yanks . Next are for SAA and Russia the Idlib and tanf to clear out . After that help the Turks to leave . They are closer at hand ......if you know what I mean .

Again. Am I the only one thinking that it's not only incident at the border but something bigger to try to destroy Turkey's influence in ME in total coordination with events in Lybia ?


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Syrian army is shelling and firing missiles at the Turkish observation post and it's surroundings in Shier Magher in northern Hama countryside

nomadski wrote:
@ Miketheterrible

Agree . Russia patience with Turkey may finally pay off . If it means Turkish troops in Eastern Syria,  instead of Yank troops . Turks will dismantle separatist kurds , put end to their dream of  separate homeland . Syria and Russia should let them in , if it means withdrawal of yanks . Next are for SAA and Russia the Idlib and tanf to clear out . After that help the Turks to leave . They are closer at hand ......if you know what I mean .

SDF are atheists. They don't attack Russians in Syria. On the other hand, Turkey armed NLF are hardcore Islamists and they love to kill Russians. SDF is Russia's friend. NLF is Russia's enemy. Of course Russia won't let Turks into eastern Syria.

Turkey is pushing to see how far it can go. Russia jammed GPS over entire Syria because Turkey supplied NLF with thousands of attack drones going after the Latakia base.

This I assume is standard naval lineup in Tartus, vessels rotate but overall size should be constant

ultimatewarrior wrote:

George1 wrote:

ultimatewarrior wrote:NLF uses Turkey supplied illegally reverse engineered Kornet missile to shoot Russians in Syria.

https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1145313372541468673

https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1145339723298344965

you told us so many times for Turkey and Kornets..we understand it

Today it's Kornet. Tomorrow it'll be S-400 if Russia does not immediately cancel sale of S-400 to Turkey. Turkey may not be able to illegally reverse engineer S-400 like they did with Kornet but they send one to the US to illegally reverse engineer and then make thousands of illegally reverse engineered S-400 with Erdogan's slave labor and use these to shoot Russian planes in Syria and beyond. Which is pretty stupid Russia selling S-400 to Russia's enemy Turkey. Russia  hasn't been making good decisions since Putin got into power.

Already ERdogan is demanding Join production of S-400s missiles.. and Putin not even blinked an eye..  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jcI5AQ37QE

Wondering what his fanboys in this forums will say ,when Erdogan give Americans and Israel the blue prints of the S-400.. And the ins and out of it..  People like Putin today ,running the country are dangerous for Russia national security. To think that the moron
offered Brazil , the Su-57 to brazil and to produce them in their country.. when Dilma was president.. during the olympics time... and now the president of brazil is an Israel fanatic..
And he even visited CIA headquaters to praise their job of their literal destruction of latin America of any leftist countries ,who were allied to Russia during soviet times.  This is why i will not mind a Revolution on Russia ,to remove Putin from Power..
Russia needs a hardliner with vision of the future.. with ambitions ..not a weak fluffy teddy bear like Putin.. This is why Putin receive many times cute and tender puppies. It represent Putin own policies.. Even Lavrov is much more stronger than Putin.. He deserve a much better president than Putin.  The only thing that saves Russia from going the way of Soviet Union and disband again is pure luck..   Had clinton won the elections , Putin will have faced
more proxy wars ,of the style of Syria and Ukraine are.. setup by US and UK.. A new war in Serbia and another in Moldova vs Transnistria.. and possible another one in Nicaragua.. and war in venezuela will have been already going.... this is why i say ,the only reason Putin
still is popular, is merely by Luck.. because  his tactics  to counter his enemies are completely retarded. just like the people in this forum who defends him.

Turkroach government can't be given anything decent. Be it US or Russian weapons as these rabid pests bite the hand thst feeds them.

Regular wrote:Turkroach government can't be given anything decent. Be it US or Russian weapons as these rabid pests bite the hand thst feeds them.

US give them f-16 less capable than Israeli ones and Russia will probably give them s-400 less capable than Syrian ones.

Kornet or not they would have another atgm to supply to their syrian friends. It could have been TOWs or chinese ones or other. At least russia made them pay for that.

Isos wrote:

Regular wrote:Turkroach government can't be given anything decent. Be it US or Russian weapons as these rabid pests bite the hand thst feeds them.

US give them f-16 less capable than Israeli ones and Russia will probably give them s-400 less capable than Syrian ones.

Kornet or not they would have another atgm to supply to their syrian friends. It could have been TOWs or chinese ones or other. At least russia made them pay for that.

Pay for that? Erdogan's slave labor factory is churning out thousands and thousands of illegally reverse engineered Kornet missiles, supplying them to NLF to shoot Russians. Turkey is a dictatorship. Erdogan's slave labor factory builds weapons for free.

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-Yesterday the GPS jamming was reduced to allow the #US to target an HTS position in #Aleppo

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- #Russia might use this event to announce a step which was already being implemented

Isos wrote:

Regular wrote:Turkroach government can't be given anything decent. Be it US or Russian weapons as these rabid pests bite the hand thst feeds them.

US give them f-16 less capable than Israeli ones and Russia will probably give them s-400 less capable than Syrian ones.

Kornet or not they would have another atgm to supply to their syrian friends. It could have been TOWs or chinese ones or other. At least russia made them pay for that.

There is nothing more useless that the S-300s currently gathering dust in Syria. That of which you have no control of, is of no use. The only ones capable of severely altering the balance of power in Syria are the Iranians, at the cost of opening pandora's box vis-a-vis Israel and the U.S, with tacit support from Russia. Which is why Iran, with all of its problems today, doesn't do so, and plays the dirty game everyone else is playing, to success and to failure.

If the Turks man the system, it will be useful, however handicapped it's in a limited defensive role. Like any serious observer can see, the S-400 sale does little to alter the balance in the region in Turkish favor, too few of them, to say nothing of the complementary assets needed to build a true AD network that could support significant aggressive military posturing and power plays. Games of chess are being played, and that's all.

Isos wrote:

- #Russia might use this event to announce a step which was already being implemented

Anyday now...

There is nothing more useless that the S-300s currently gathering dust in Syria. That of which you have no control of, is of no use. The only ones capable of severely altering the balance of power in Syria are the Iranians, at the cost of opening pandora's box vis-a-vis Israel and the U.S, with tacit support from Russia. Which is why Iran, with all of its problems today, doesn't do so, and plays the dirty game everyone else is playing, to success and to failure.

Russia didn't go in Syria to fight Israeli. They don't crare about their strikes as long as it doesn't impact their ops.

Bachar/Iran relation is not their problem. Iran is not their ally, no matter what people say or think, there was never an alliance or a pact to fight togather. Iran is an islamic republic while Russia is now very attached to its Orthodox roots. They won't be allies. Russia can help them in order to hurt US empire but won't go at war for them.

I was refering to technical capabilities of the S-300. Syrian operators are just being trained and they can't do much with 4 sets against 300 f-16/15/35 operated and mastered since 30 years by the Israeli that also have the advantage of terrain.

If the Turks man the system, it will be useful, however handicapped it's in a limited defensive role. Like any serious observer can see, the S-400 sale does little to alter the balance in the region in Turkish favor, too few of them, to say nothing of the complementary assets needed to build a true AD network that could support significant aggressive military posturing and power plays. Games of chess are being played, and that's all.

It's mostly sold because the contract costs something like 5 billion $ if not more with all the support/training added to the cost of the hardware which is huge. And it pisses off Nato. Many now wants to kick out Turkey from the alliance. It also opens the Turkish market to Russia.

3 wins. 0 loss. Russia wins.

Isos wrote:
I was refering to technical capabilities of the S-300. Syrian operators are just being trained and they can't do much with 4 sets against 300 f-16/15/35 operated and mastered since 30 years by the Israeli that also have the advantage of terrain.

Here you're assuming that the "Syrian" S-300s, whenever, if ever, they are handed off (and we're at an infinite-timetable training regiment right now - pending the geopolitical maneuvers of Putin and his clan for those short of sarcasm supply), will somehow be part of an AD system superior to that of Turkish S-400's capabilities. Somehow the missiles will reach further, and the detection ranges (or effectiveness) of the radars will be better. Yet, there is absolutely nothing out there to indicate that this will be so. Other than wishful thinking....

Which is why, as I stated before, at least the Turks will man their system and the system will be under their control. The "Syrian" S-300s are not Syrian. Otherwise they would have been fired off a longgggggggg time ago.

ultimatewarrior wrote:Turkey armed NLF try to use illegally reverse engineered Kornet missiles from Turkey to shoot Russians in Syria.

https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1145748319114813441

For fucks sake, can an admin plz warn this guy about spamming this EVERYTIME.

Also, Russia sold S-400's to China who will make cheap knock-offs. When he did that cat was out of the bag already, is selling the S-400 to the turks a mistake, sure it is.

Not sure why people are now raising a fuss about this.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Also, Russia sold S-400's to China who will make cheap knock-offs. When he did that cat was out of the bag already, is selling the S-400 to the turks a mistake, sure it is.

Not sure why people are now raising a fuss about this.

China don't attack Russia like Turkey does. Actually, it's in Russia's best interest of a strong China to counter balance America. Russia sold Su-35 and S-400 to China specifically to make China powerful to counter balance America.

Isos wrote:

There is nothing more useless that the S-300s currently gathering dust in Syria. That of which you have no control of, is of no use. The only ones capable of severely altering the balance of power in Syria are the Iranians, at the cost of opening pandora's box vis-a-vis Israel and the U.S, with tacit support from Russia. Which is why Iran, with all of its problems today, doesn't do so, and plays the dirty game everyone else is playing, to success and to failure.

Russia didn't go in Syria to fight Israeli. They don't crare about their strikes as long as it doesn't impact their ops.

Bachar/Iran relation is not their problem. Iran is not their ally, no matter what people say or think, there was never an alliance or a pact to fight togather. Iran is an islamic republic while Russia is now very attached to its Orthodox roots. They won't be allies. Russia can help them in order to hurt US empire but won't go at war for them.

I was refering to technical capabilities of the S-300. Syrian operators are just being trained and they can't do much with 4 sets against 300 f-16/15/35 operated and mastered since 30 years by the Israeli that also have the advantage of terrain.

If the Turks man the system, it will be useful, however handicapped it's in a limited defensive role. Like any serious observer can see, the S-400 sale does little to alter the balance in the region in Turkish favor, too few of them, to say nothing of the complementary assets needed to build a true AD network that could support significant aggressive military posturing and power plays. Games of chess are being played, and that's all.

It's mostly sold because the contract costs something like 5 billion $ if not more with all the support/training added to the cost of the hardware which is huge. And it pisses off Nato. Many now wants to kick out Turkey from the alliance. It also opens the Turkish market to Russia.

3 wins. 0 loss. Russia wins.

Turks love nothing more than killing Russians. Been this way for thousands of years. Don't expect that to change anytime soon. Unlike Iran and China which are friends of Russia, Turkey has been Russia's enemy and will continue to be so.