Russian Civil Aviation: News #3

higurashihougi wrote:
The catastrophic accident of Concorde nailed it fate

GarryB wrote:

BTW I'd say Ms-21 AND Il-400.

Not to mention Topols...

GB wrote:Would be good to see a lot of Baikals built and used... but they need a Russian engine and a Russian propeller and Kret needs to supply all the avionics and systems so it is all Russian...

The failure of Concorde, I think, it's not about the noise, but aerodynamic instability.

The catastrophic accident of Concorde nailed it fate and shown the disadvantage of triangular design likes SR-71, Mirage or Concorde. That design allow great forward speed, but it has limited stability, and poor maneuverability - although maneuverability is not very relevant for a commercial airliner.

True, but you cannot make engine and then hope somebody buys it. Either govt sorts out cycle - govt grantees for regions to buy - regions plan and buy - factory invests.

Apparently Russian fed are still looking into building a state controlled air carrier to be able to help the civil aircraft builders. Smart move. But they have to make it profitable (maybe not mass profit but enough to make it worth while). Plenty of cheap air carriers failed due to losses.

franco wrote:The National Air Ambulance Service received the first eight Mi-8 and Ansat helicopters

   State Corporation Rostec reported that on February 8, 2019, the National Air Ambulance Service (NCCA) handed over the first batch of specialized aviation equipment — four Ansat helicopters and four Mi-8 helicopters. In total, by 2021, Rostec will supply the NSSA 104 Ansat and 46 Mi-8s in medical equipment.
   The transfer of aircraft in a special color and a modified look took place on the territory of the flight test complex of the Moscow Helicopter Plant. M.L. Mile in the village of Tomilino. The event was attended by Veronika Skvortsova, Minister of Health of Russia, Denis Manturov, Minister of Industry and Trade of Russia, and Sergey Chemezov, head of the Rostec State Corporation. In addition, as part of the event they held a meeting on the development of air ambulance, which was attended by the heads of regions of the Russian Federation.
   The supplied helicopters are a real flying ambulance, the machines are fully equipped with modern equipment for diagnostics and medical care during the flight, including a special module with life support systems for transporting newborns. Helicopters will perform sanitary tasks in St. Petersburg, Amur, Leningrad, Moscow, Tver, Novgorod, Novosibirsk, Magadan, Sverdlovsk regions and Khabarovsk Krai.
   “The development of air ambulance, as well as the entire ambulance system as a whole, is the most important priority of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation. Effective medicine of the XXI century is unthinkable without air ambulance. Medical helicopters and airplanes are not only an opportunity to provide emergency assistance in remote and hard-to-reach areas, but also an important part of the ambulance system in large cities, with their heavy traffic and traffic jams. Already today, air ambulance works in 45 regions of the Russian Federation, the immediate goal is to make air ambulance available to every citizen of the country, ”said Veronika Skvortsova.
   NCCA plans to carry out more than 15.5 thousand evacuations per year with a subsequent increase in the volume of services. By the end of 2021, the created fleet of NCCA aircraft will provide the opportunity to fly under sanitary assignments throughout the country. This will help make high-tech medical care more accessible and will significantly increase the number of lives saved thanks to emergency actions of sanaviatsii.
   “In May 2018, the President of the Russian Federation was charged with ensuring the diversification of industrial enterprises of the military-industrial complex. The implementation of this complex project will allow to load the production capacity of enterprises of the aviation industry until 2020 with civilian products of great social significance. Large-scale deliveries of helicopters in the framework of the national project "Health" contribute to a significant renewal of the fleet of aircraft involved in the work of air ambulance in the regions, "said Denis Manturov.
   The project of the unified operator of air ambulance provides for the creation of 130 aircraft-based points, a network of mobile fuel filling stations, helicopter pads in the territories of more than 1.5 thousand health care facilities.
   For the uninterrupted operation of the system, the activity of air ambulance services will be synchronized with the emergency call systems of the uniform number "112" in the regions of Russia and the Unified State Information System for Health.
   “Rostec enterprises produce modern aviation equipment and medical equipment, provide related services, have extensive experience in building digital and ground infrastructure - in short, they have all the competencies for the integrated implementation of such a large-scale project. The creation of the NCCA is designed to improve the quality of life of people on the ground, to introduce new standards of work in the field of sanitation. The project also contributes to the diversification of defense enterprises and the growth of civilian production. The planned volume of investments in the renewal of the sanatorium park will be about 40 billion rubles, ”said Sergey Chemezov.
   The federal project for the development of air ambulance is being implemented by the Ministry of Public Health and the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia under the instructions of the President of Russia. Rostec has been an active participant in the project since 2016. At the moment, the holding company “Helicopters of Russia” has delivered 60 vehicles with a medical module to the Russian regions, which have already made more than 12 thousand sorties and transported over 17.5 thousand patients, including about 3 thousand children.
   Only in 2018, the Russian sanatorium made 5,500 sorties, thanks to its actions, 7,500 people received timely assistance, which is 75% more than in 2017.
   As previously reported, the project to create the NCCA was initiated by Rostec State Corporation in 2017. In January 2018, Vladimir Putin supported the initiative. At the end of last year, in accordance with the decree of the Russian government, NCCA was defined as a single provider of sanitation services in the country's regions.
   At the moment, the service has already started to work in St. Petersburg, Moscow, Leningrad, Sverdlovsk, Novgorod regions and the Republic of Karelia.

   Comment bmpd . Reportedly, during the ceremony on February 8, 2019, four Ansat helicopters with a hydromechanical control system — cars with a yellow-red color with registration numbers RA-20024 (serial number 33098) were handed over to the National Air Ambulance Service of Tomilino. , RA-20025 (33099), RA-20026 (33100) and RA-20027 (33101). Four MI-8AMT helicopters were also handed over - three in yellow-red-black with registration numbers RA-24139, RA-24148 and RA-24151 and one in white and red with registration number RA-22846.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Any Boeing had more crash then Concorde. IMHO this wasn't technical but competition issue.

GarryB wrote:When they had the crash, it hit the reputation and the potential loss of passenger sales even for a short while made it non viable so the ended it all.

AFAIK the aerodynamics were fine, and they had good engines.

higurashihougi wrote:My opinion is that, applying commercial triangular design without affordable runway or a computer pilot to handle complicated issues in aerodynamic balance  like in the military fighter is highly risky and the effect will be catastrophic.

And... sorry for my late reply.

Putin proposed to think about creating a supersonic passenger aircraft

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Putin proposed to think about creating a supersonic passenger aircraft

The president noted that “a new machine” for the Russian military, the long-range heavy strategic bomber Tu-160 and its technology, could be developed into a civilian version.

“Everything is running like clockwork,” said the Russian president about the Tu-160. “So why not also create a supersonic passenger plane?”

Tu-160 civillian version, may be ? Swing-wing is a good design in this sector, I think.

miketheterrible wrote:The gazeta article sucks as the so called experts are completely unaware of Russia's already existing manufacturing of composite materials used for the wings. Which was mentioned earlier.