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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #28

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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:20 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    63% of Ukrainian citizens decided to not cast their vote in the local elections in #Ukraine.
    As much for democracy...

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1320685087810293763

    The western fake stream media claims that when Russia has a turn out that is 67% that Putin has no legitimacy as an elected leader.
    But you will never hear them ragging on Banderastan when it has 37% turnouts. Whatever stooge they "elect" will always be legitimate.
    The western information space is full of dipshit insanity.

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    Post  VARGR198 Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:32 pm

    https://southfront.org/ukraine-land-of-opportunities-selling-smuggled-soviet-air-defense-systems-own-sovereignty-and-more/
    Several illegally imported S125 missiles seized in Ukraine.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:14 am

    Wall paper and light bulbs will be sold next...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:34 am

    GarryB wrote:Wall paper and light bulbs will be sold next...

    Don't you mean organs? Followed by soylent green.

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    Post  kvs Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:01 pm



    Ukr sewing sweatshops now pay "workers" (i.e. slaves) FOUR times less than similar workers in China.
    Not a single item in this clothing operating is made in Banderastan and everything from thread to packaging
    is imported. In the video we have a quote relating that the cost of clothing production is four times lower
    which means the cost of labour since the cost of materials is going to be the same as in China since that
    is where most of that material comes from.

    The comparison to China is limited. China required foreign companies to use local inputs for their production
    and not just cheap labour. In the Brave New Banderastan there are no such requirements so the whole
    operation is a racket. This is highlighted by the lack of any "Made in Ukraine" label on the clothing being
    sold by name brands outside and inside of Ukraine for a huge markup.

    So the Kiev regime wants Banderastan to be the sweatshop of Europe. This is what all the Maidan saps
    get for believing the propaganda about getting rich and living it up in Europe. Enjoy the ass rape suckers.



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    Post  franco Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:22 pm

    Babitsky described in detail how Donbass is going to be returned to Ukraine

    Two weeks ago, representatives of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics presented a roadmap at a meeting of the Trilateral Contact Group (TCG) in Minsk. In fact, the project is a new compromise version of the Minsk agreements, journalist Andrei Babitsky believes.

    In an article for the Ukraina.ru publication, he commented on the statement of the head of the Ukrainian delegation at the talks, former President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk, that Kiev plans to prepare and present an action plan to establish peace in Donbass within a week.

       “At the next meeting, which will be held, possibly on November 11, we will already consider this step-by-step action plan, how we will act in all spheres of life in Donbass. Perhaps this is the main thing for us, "the TASS agency quotes the words of the Russian plenipotentiary in the Contact Group Boris Gryzlov.

    According to the journalist, the LDNR roadmap consists of 15 points, which are not just a detailed plan for the implementation of the Minsk agreements, but also some adjustments to Minsk-2.

    If the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine approves this plan, the parties within the next three days will have to submit lists of prisoners for exchange, and the exchange itself will have to take place within 15 days. In addition, a plan for demining 19 areas will be approved within ten days, after which the delegation will begin work on a global mine clearance project along the entire contact line. At the same time, a disengagement of forces and weapons will have to take place in the aforementioned zones, as well as work to begin to create a scheme for a general withdrawal of troops.

    The President of Ukraine, within one month after the approval of the roadmap by the Verkhovna Rada, will have to submit to the government a law on amending the constitution on the creation of CADLO (Separate regions of Donetsk and Luhansk regions) within the country, and that the new entity will exist in this status until 2050.

       “The powers of local authorities and the specifics of self-government are regulated by an additional Ukrainian law. At the same time, the constitutional norm and the legislative act supplementing it cannot be changed without the consent of the residents of ORDLO. They will have to express their will in a referendum, which cannot be held earlier than 2045 and later than 2049, ”Babitsky quotes the proposals of the Donbass republics.

    In addition, according to him, the "road map" stipulates the adjustment of the law on the special status of CADLO, adopted under President Petro Poroshenko. Power in certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions in its entirety will be transferred to local authorities at all levels, which will also solve all key issues for the region. For example, local authorities will deal with all issues related to the role of the Russian language, the judiciary, security forces and economic processes, including trade relations with Russia.

    Also in the roadmap there are points regarding the conduct of elections, the transfer of the border with Russia under the control of Ukraine, the withdrawal of foreign armed formations from the territory of CADLO, the formation of units of the People's Militia. At the same time, the DPR and LPR prescribed in the document a requirement to change or completely cancel three recently adopted Ukrainian laws - on the state language, on education and on the reintegration of Donbass.

       “An important aspect: the nationalized enterprises will be returned to the Ukrainian owners. I will not go into smaller details, since they are not of fundamental importance, "the journalist notes.

    The document, in particular, stipulates that the special status is granted not forever, but temporarily - for 30 years, while the time frame for transferring the border is not tied to the granting of a special status.

       "The proposals of the people's republics, supported by Moscow, are an invitation to dialogue on less stringent conditions than before, but there have been no reasons to believe that it will be accepted." - says Babitsky.

    The position of the official Kiev authorities, the journalist reminds, fundamentally contradicts the Minsk agreements. Already now, the Ukrainian media call the concessions made "meaningless cosmetics." And this, according to Andrei Babitsky, is indeed true, since neither the residents of the Donbass republics, nor the authorities of the DPR and LPR have abandoned their views on relations with Ukraine.

       “And nevertheless, the step taken is an attempt to shake up the negotiation process, which the Ukrainian side has long ago driven into a dead end,” the journalist emphasizes in conclusion.

    In a week, the Ukrainian delegation will voice its own proposals, from which it will become clear which points of the roadmap of Donetsk and Lugansk are considered acceptable in Kiev. Although it can already be assumed that Kiev will not accept almost anything from the Donbass proposals, Babitsky is sure.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:57 am

    the withdrawal of foreign armed formations from the territory of CADLO, the formation of units of the People's Militia.

    So they want foreign armed formations in the seperatist regions removed... I wonder if that would be reciprocated on Kievs side and the US and EU forces and HATO forces will leave the rest of the Ukraine to balance?
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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:41 am

    Donbass is not going to be returned to the Kiev regime. The Kiev regime is not prepared to remove
    itself from power for Ukraine to get such a gift. And this is not the Bolshie era where Russians will
    just go for the ride of gifting the Donbass to Ukraine again. No, even if Ukraine repents and
    removes its Banderite Nazis from power, they will not be getting the Donbass back.

    The Donbass war has established new facts on the ground.

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:19 am

    Well, no shit this will be declined by DNR and LNR.

    There isn't a single piece in what they are pushing that benefits the two regions.
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    Post  LMFS Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:55 am

    This is just the last of countless brazen attempts by the ukros to dodge their commitments. Nobody is so stupid to make any concession to Ukrostan while they are 6 years now lying, pretending and in general taking their counterparts for retards. It is Minsk or nothing, and Minsk was done specifically for it to be unacceptable for Kiev while Donbass is integrated with Russia. It is over now.

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    Post  franco Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:28 pm

    Ukraine is expecting a coup with Biden coming to power

    If Democrat Joseph Biden wins the American presidential race, a coup d'etat inspired by Poroshenko and his supporters may take place in Kiev. This opinion was expressed by David Zhvania, who previously worked with the ex-president of Ukraine.

    According to Zhvania, people from the environment of Petro Poroshenko share information about what is happening to him. Judging by their data, preparations for the "revolution" have been going on since this summer. After the election campaign, Zelensky's loss of popularity among the people became obvious, which the former president of Ukraine decided to take advantage of - Poroshenko is putting some regional councils in the west of the country under the control of his political forces, and their heads, if necessary, can declare their disobedience to the Kiev authorities.

    I know the conspirators have made a decision to act and they have a clear plan

    - emphasized the former colleague of Peter Alekseevich.

    Zhvania claims that if the coup is successful, Vitali Klitschko will take the top post of Ukraine, while Poroshenko will keep the post of prime minister with expanded powers. Avakov, Turchinov and Yatsenyuk can also take part in the coup. Poroshenko's longtime acquaintance and American curator Joe Biden knows about the plans of his ward and supports them.
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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:24 pm

    That is not a coup, it is a changing of the puppets.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:11 am

    Odd really, because the coup in the Ukraine was more of a Clinton Obama operation than a Bush or Trump operation so if Biden wins you would think the current puppets would get better support from the US regime than they have been getting from Trump which is token support from a government that doesn't seem to want the Ukraine as an asset to start with.

    The funny thing is that the Ukraine has been a drag on the Russian economy... a blood sucking tick that drains money and resources from Russian companies... in many ways the west did Russia a favour... especially regarding the Crimea... if you said just 10 years ago that the entire Crimean peninsula could be under Russian control I would have said Putin isn't so mad as to start a civil war to make that happen. Fortunately the west was stupid enough to try and ended up breaking the Ukraine a country they claimed to want to help... what a surprise.

    Another factor is that both of these mafia groups are anti Russia so really Russia should not care anyway... even if Yanukovych got back into power ... who cares.... he was rabidly anti Russian too... his only crime and the reason he got kicked was because he recognised the Russian offer for trade was better than the EU offer and he knew he could not accept both so he took the best offer... that didn't make him pro Russian... it just made him sensible/practical... unlike most Ukrainians who seem to think cutting off their own limbs and taping their own mouths shut is hurting Russia...

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:34 am

    Biden was put in charge of overseeing Ukraine after Maiden and Porkie was his man.
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:21 am

    At least porkie is predictable. Russia said the same about a Biden lead office. Will make US predictable.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:21 am

    The really amusing thing is that Clinton kept saying Putin wanted Trump and Trump is Putins man... but honestly I would think Putin would have a list about 1,000 pages long of American names he would rather deal with than either Clinton or Trump or Biden... a list that would include but not be limited to homeless people on the streets of the US...

    350 million people and these three censored are the best they could come up with?

    This electorial system is clearly designed to pump out detached from reality old white rich men... lets face it it would have been sanders trump in 2016 if Hilary hadn't cheated and he is just another old white rich guy.
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:08 pm

    Russia intends to protect the Russians wherever they live, including in the south-east of Ukraine, said Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for the Russian president. He answered a question from a Ukrainian journalist about issuing passports to residents of the DPR and LPR. "Russia has always protected and will continue to protect the interests of the Russians wherever they live," Peskov said.

    Ukraine's position is fundamentally different from that of Kiev. Ukraine must take care of those it considers its citizens. Peskov asked a rhetorical question - shouldn't Ukraine care about the health and social situation of the people in the southeast? And since Kiev is not engaged in these matters, Moscow assumes these responsibilities.

    Peskov also believes that the Minsk Agreements do not prohibit Russia from issuing passports to those living on the territory of the "people's republics".

    It should be stressed that this is the Kremlin's first statement in which it speaks about its readiness to protect the interests of ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

    https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/11/06/kreml-vpervye-zayavil-chto-budet-zashhishhat-etnicheskikh-russkikh-na-ukraine.html

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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:36 pm

    Spare us the Minsk "agreements" BS you journalist hacks. Some meeting of a few leaders does not establish some sort of absolute law.
    And what is more, Russia is not subject to the Minsk agreements. It is routine propaganda from NATzO that Russia must "meet its
    Minsk obligations". What fucking obligations. Minsk only applies to Ukraine, which never met any of its obligations.



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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:05 am

    I remember seeing an interview of Putin where some reporter asked him about Russia meeting the terms of the Minks agreements, and he basically said what you said... this is not about Russia... this is about a part of the ukraine that is being abused by the leadership in Kiev... the claims that Russian needs to do this or that is a figment of western imaginations...
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:18 pm

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/9942145

    Former Ukrainian president (until 1994), the 86 years old Leonid Kravchuk, Kiev representative for the Minsk talks said:
    "the sequence of the Minsk agreements needs to be reviewed. We want first the control of the territories, the border and the elections, then we will make the law on the autonomy of Donbass" (the opposite of what was established 5 years ago).


    Yeah, sure... he was one of the 3 bastards (together with Eltsin and the bielorussian shukevich) that did the Belovezha Accords in 1991...
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:31 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/9942145

    Former Ukrainian president (until 1994), the 86 years old Leonid Kravchuk, Kiev representative for the Minsk talks said:
    "the sequence of the Minsk agreements needs to be reviewed.  We want first the control of the territories, the border and the elections, then we will make the law on the autonomy of Donbass" (the opposite of what was established 5 years ago).


    Yeah, sure... he was one of the 3 bastards (together with Eltsin and the bielorussian shukevich) that did the Belovezha Accords in 1991...

    He can demand and require. Whether he gets what desires is totally not in his hands.

    Yapping, rotten mutt.

    Notice how his link to the grotesque murder of a reporter has been forgotten by the NATzO fake stream media. This maggot should
    be in jail and not making demands.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:33 pm

    Ukraine Looks for Applicable Lessons in Latest Karabakh War
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    Post  LMFS Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:40 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Ukraine Looks for Applicable Lessons in Latest Karabakh War

    "Be careful with the shit you engage in, because the most likely outcome is that you end up with Russian peacekeepers stationed on "your" country" lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:54 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:Ukraine Looks for Applicable Lessons in Latest Karabakh War

    "Be careful with the shit you engage in, because the most likely outcome is that you end up with Russian peacekeepers stationed on "your" country" lol1 lol1 lol1

    Laughing Very Happy
    But I doubt that we will see russian peacekeepers in Galicia, so the real ukrainians don't have to worry.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:28 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Ukraine Looks for Applicable Lessons in Latest Karabakh War

    That explains the 48 TB2 drones Erdogan sold to Ukraine recently. Looks like after Karabakh the next battle is Donbas. Although Ukraine may not want to fight, it is Erdogan who is the puppet master. Erdogan orders Ukraine to attack Donbas which is thus far not recognized by Russia.

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