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    Post  auslander Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:20 am

    The Ottoman wrote:There is no nation that fought more wars against Russia than Turkey (16 times). They lost the most of them, but they were never afraid to start another one.

    Putin can make Erdogan afraid of war and scare him with Russian bombs, because Erdogan is not a Turk but a Georgian.

    But a real Turk dont fear death, Ruskies, Yanks or nukes. Turks have war in their blood.

    And Russian population is decreasing anyway. Russians dont marry anymore and Russian men are drinking to much, thats bad for sex. Thats why Russian women search for men in Turkey, Egypt etc.

    Turkish population is increasing, in every Turkic country.

    Time for you to put the crack pipe down.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:21 am

    Turks aren't known to be smart.  They are proving this. They get their asses kicked and yet ask for more.

    And turkeys population is smaller than Russia's.  The Turks could though lose more people though, good for planet earth.

    If our fellow ottoman is anything to go by.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:33 am

    Turks,.....

    I am not sure how many here has experience with their culture.

    I am from the Netherlands. so they are part of our "culture" since we invited them as foreign labour and they stuck around ever since.

    Turks know no loyalty, they just act like they co-exist. whenever they hear some idiot shout to resist the ligitmate government they start mass riots and start waving Turkish flags.
    We had a recent episode where the Erdogan 5th pillar figured they could enforce their turkish views on our city of Rotterdam. Sadly for them, the Rotterdam Mayor of Morrocan descent sent actual armed SWAT to arrest the Turkish political delegation. and send riot officers with dogs against the Turkish protestors. in his words: "Dutch Constitution is Law here, Not erdogan's".
    Ahmed Aboutaleb, ... More Dutch than most Dutch Mayors. You know the mayor does right when the newspaper starts with an erdogan supporter getting his croth mauled by an riot-control dog. Syrian War: News #21 - Page 17 Anp-1010

    good times Smile.

    anyway, back to the glorious culture of Turks....

    They believe themselves to be decendants of the Ottoman empire. But they just got nothing to show for it. they are absolutely devoid of any logical reasoning or self reflection.
    their first instinct is to react emotional, even beyond their own self interrests.  but often this realisation comes later.

    For example, if you get into an fight with one. they will never resort in fighting you one to one. they will always seek to confront you on your own with an group.
    Honest combat is not the way of an Turk. they rather just shoot you in the back on a moment you least expect it.

    for them, Turkey and Erdogan is holy. just dont mention their mandatory conscription service. because none ever served voluntarily or with distinction for that matter. when i asked for any sort of combat experience the best i got was cleansing some Kurd southern town of civilians.

    as combatants they can be characterised as cowards, traitors and simply are prone to illogical emotional decision making. and lie at your face every oppertunity they get.
    any sort of individual dependence or initiative is non-existent. Dumb as a rock.

    these people shank you with an box cutter on the streets when you ask how the hell they can get an millitary Coup.
    Or even more fun, how they lose some of NATO'S best War Machines to a bunch of isis idiots.

    Incompetent amateur religious zealots.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:39 am

    And they think the Muslims populations are on their side. It's a joke since majority to all are against them, excluding Pakistan which wouldn't go to bat for Turkey. Russian Muslims have been fighting Turks for a very long time yet the Turks think they can get them on their side.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:26 am

    The Ottoman wrote:There is no nation that fought more wars against Russia than Turkey (16 times). They lost the most of them, but they were never afraid to start another one.

    Putin can make Erdogan afraid of war and scare him with Russian bombs, because Erdogan is not a Turk but a Georgian.

    But a real Turk dont fear death, Ruskies, Yanks or nukes. Turks have war in their blood.

    And Russian population is decreasing anyway. Russians dont marry anymore and Russian men are drinking to much, thats bad for sex. Thats why Russian women search for men in Turkey, Egypt etc.

    Turkish population is increasing, in every Turkic country.

    Sex is the ancient way. These days they use bio technology. Turks and nomads in general just don't get White Man science. They just don't. Shocked
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:27 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Syria is a game of Putin and Erdogan. Syrians are the game pieces. Of course, Syrians die by the hundreds every day. What does not kill you makes you stronger. War weeds out the weak, the slow, the unfit.

    Yeah, the American wet dream... they love to see anyone fighting Russians, whether it is China or India or their own HATO ally Turkey... they don't care... they will even support terrorists like Al quada if they are fighting Russians.

    Russia can even supply some of the latest Verba MANPADS which have thermal and can shoot at night.

    All IR guided MANPADS can be used at night... you just need a night sight that allows you to find the target to point the missile seeker at and identify for the launch.

    The missiles themselves see in IR and can target things in any visible light conditions except fog...

    BTW any ban on shooting down drones would generally be given when friendly drones are being used to prevent local forces shooting down friendly drones trying to find targets to hit.

    True. But night vision only sees a few hundred meters. Thermal sees km. To use MANPADS at night they need thermal to get sufficient sighting range since drones have thermal and attack from about 2 km.
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    Post  The Ottoman Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:09 pm

    @Airbornewolf

    If it was not for the Turks, your country and people would be raped and looted by Philips II of Spain and your mother would give head to Spanish soldiers. The Ottomans were the first nation that recognized a independent Holland and formed a alliance with them to fight Spain in the 80-Year War when the rest of your brotherly European friends just look the other way. So you must thank the Turks a lot. I am not complaining because a lot of Dutch girls thanked me a lot Smile
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:28 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:There is no nation that fought more wars against Russia than Turkey (16 times). They lost the most of them, but they were never afraid to start another one.

    Putin can make Erdogan afraid of war and scare him with Russian bombs, because Erdogan is not a Turk but a Georgian.

    But a real Turk dont fear death, Ruskies, Yanks or nukes. Turks have war in their blood.

    And Russian population is decreasing anyway. Russians dont marry anymore and Russian men are drinking to much, thats bad for sex. Thats why Russian women search for men in Turkey, Egypt etc.

    Turkish population is increasing, in every Turkic country.

    Lol go and learn history and not that propaganda crap they clearly teach you in school.
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    Post  auslander Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:29 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:@Airbornewolf

    If it was not for the Turks, your country and people would be raped and looted by Philips II of Spain and your mother would give head to Spanish soldiers. The Ottomans were the first nation that recognized a independent Holland and formed a alliance with them to fight Spain in the 80-Year War when the rest of your brotherly European friends just look the other way. So you must thank the Turks a lot. I am not complaining because a lot of Dutch girls thanked me a lot Smile

    Put the crack pipe down.
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    Post  The Ottoman Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:36 pm

    Putin made a major chess mistake to choose a failed-state nutjob as assad above a strategic partnership with a NATO country (S400, SU57, TurkStream, Akkuyu Nuclear Reactor, 50 billion annual trade yearly).
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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:31 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:Putin made a major chess mistake to choose a failed-state nutjob as assad above a strategic partnership with a NATO country (S400, SU57, TurkStream, Akkuyu Nuclear Reactor, 50 billion annual trade yearly).

    Well Turk, in France we see that different. Erdogan is a facist and has nothing too look for in Syria.

    Erdogan lost. He believed he can win land in Syria and keep Russia at bay. That failed. Now that Turkey is kicked out of Syria, Erdogan openly shows his weakness by trying to pull the migrant card. You want force Europe to stand with Turkey.

    We wont. If history has proven one thing, its that we shall never accept blackmail.

    Its an empty threat btw, since Greece and Bulgaria locked the border to Turkey and fight the migrants away with tear gas and fences.

    What matters now is to cut Turkey back to what it is, a pathetic 3rd world shithole.

    P.s. France also supports Haftar in Libya and i hope we can depose Erdogan soon.
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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:36 pm

    KVS seem to be right. The pantsir seems to be a UAE pantsir and not syrian. They have different trucks.

    Maybe it is also a fake video. It's pretty easy to photoshop an IR video with a huge explosion at the end.
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    Post  par far Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:59 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:There is no nation that fought more wars against Russia than Turkey (16 times). They lost the most of them, but they were never afraid to start another one.

    Putin can make Erdogan afraid of war and scare him with Russian bombs, because Erdogan is not a Turk but a Georgian.

    But a real Turk dont fear death, Ruskies, Yanks or nukes. Turks have war in their blood.

    And Russian population is decreasing anyway. Russians dont marry anymore and Russian men are drinking to much, thats bad for sex. Thats why Russian women search for men in Turkey, Egypt etc.

    Turkish population is increasing, in every Turkic country.


    You might want to check your facts.

    Where ever I have traveled, I have never heard anyone say anything good about the Turks. When I went to Europe(this was 10 years ago but I am pretty sure the opinion has not changed) whenever anything Turkish comes up, people are all negative about the Turks
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    Post  par far Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:02 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    The Ottoman wrote:Putin made a major chess mistake to choose a failed-state nutjob as assad above a strategic partnership with a NATO country (S400, SU57, TurkStream, Akkuyu Nuclear Reactor, 50 billion annual trade yearly).

    Well Turk, in France we see that different. Erdogan is a facist and has nothing  too look for in Syria.

    Erdogan lost. He believed he can win land in Syria and keep Russia at bay. That failed. Now that Turkey is kicked out of Syria, Erdogan openly shows his weakness by trying to pull the migrant card. You want force Europe to stand with Turkey.

    We wont. If history has proven one thing, its that we shall never accept blackmail.

    Its an empty threat btw, since Greece and Bulgaria locked the border to Turkey and fight the migrants away with tear gas and fences.

    What matters now is to cut Turkey back to what it is, a pathetic 3rd world shithole.

    P.s. France also supports Haftar in Libya and i hope we can depose Erdogan soon.

    I feel so bad for France and Europe, very rich history and it now being destroyed by Muslims and filthy blacks.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:20 pm

    One more group is now after the Turks especially in Syria - Hezbollah. They announced they will confront and engage turkey.

    Hezbollah isn't someone I would want to piss off. They held back Israel in 2006. Most of them are veterans and well trained/equipped.

    Mixed in with Turkey having enemies all over the place, guarantee now UAE and the rest are gonna have a field day wanting their revenge against turkey as well.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:01 pm

    True. But night vision only sees a few hundred meters. Thermal sees km. To use MANPADS at night they need thermal to get sufficient sighting range since drones have thermal and attack from about 2 km.

    First generation image intensification might only see a few hundred metres, but third and later generations are fine for detecting and identifying aircraft. Thermal scopes are becoming rather widespread I have seen several videos showing Syrian forces with thermal scopes on their rifles, so getting some for MANPADS should be fairly easy... especially if they can get their hands on MANPADS then one missile would probably get them a dozen thermal scopes... MANPADS are much much harder to get on the black market than thermal scopes... and a thermal scope would make detecting a helo really really easy... they have enormous IR signatures and those rotor blades with the leading edge of the blades heated by friction with the air... it would just be a case of determining whether it is friendly or enemy... which is probably why the front line troops have been told not to fire on drones because bringing them down is easy but bringing down friendly drones is just as easy too.
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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:52 pm

    par far wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    The Ottoman wrote:Putin made a major chess mistake to choose a failed-state nutjob as assad above a strategic partnership with a NATO country (S400, SU57, TurkStream, Akkuyu Nuclear Reactor, 50 billion annual trade yearly).

    Well Turk, in France we see that different. Erdogan is a facist and has nothing  too look for in Syria.

    Erdogan lost. He believed he can win land in Syria and keep Russia at bay. That failed. Now that Turkey is kicked out of Syria, Erdogan openly shows his weakness by trying to pull the migrant card. You want force Europe to stand with Turkey.

    We wont. If history has proven one thing, its that we shall never accept blackmail.

    Its an empty threat btw, since Greece and Bulgaria locked the border to Turkey and fight the migrants away with tear gas and fences.

    What matters now is to cut Turkey back to what it is, a pathetic 3rd world shithole.

    P.s. France also supports Haftar in Libya and i hope we can depose Erdogan soon.

    I feel so bad for France and Europe, very rich history and it now being destroyed by Muslims and filthy blacks.

    Bullshit. We have the far right rising and thats a good thing. Nothing is destroyed here. What you witness is the waning days of globalisation and liberalism. Once thats dead there wont be any blacks and muslims. We have not even 2% of the amount of muslims that we had in Europe 700 years ago. We got rid of them then and we will get rid of them now as well.

    But thats not the topic. The topic is how France and Europe can work togetehr with Russia to crush Turkey.
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:58 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:Putin made a major chess mistake to choose a failed-state nutjob as assad above a strategic partnership with a NATO country (S400, SU57, TurkStream, Akkuyu Nuclear Reactor, 50 billion annual trade yearly).

    And turkey lost all neighbours just to support some terrorists , Look at Russia,Syria,Egypt,Greece,cyprus,Saudi Arabia,UAE and even Iran and France , all of them have policies against Turkey now , ur boss chossed the muslim brotherhood over all these countries which means he needs to check a Psychologist ASAP .
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:03 pm

    Hate speech against Muslims ?! really ? we are in 2020 so guys stop repeating such crap.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:26 pm

    Man this cracked me up what Erdo just said

    "Erdogan: If we do not fight the terrorist organizations inside Syria, we will have to fight them later in Turkey"
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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:34 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Man this cracked me up what Erdo just said

    "Erdogan: If we do not fight the terrorist organizations inside Syria, we will have to fight them later in Turkey"

    He is funny liar , also he said that turkish army killed 2000 from SAA these days Laughing
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:35 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:There is no nation that fought more wars against Russia than Turkey (16 times). They lost the most of them, but they were never afraid to start another one.

    Putin can make Erdogan afraid of war and scare him with Russian bombs, because Erdogan is not a Turk but a Georgian.

    But a real Turk dont fear death, Ruskies, Yanks or nukes. Turks have war in their blood.

    And Russian population is decreasing anyway. Russians dont marry anymore and Russian men are drinking to much, thats bad for sex. Thats why Russian women search for men in Turkey, Egypt etc.

    Turkish population is increasing, in every Turkic country.

    Turkey population will stop increasing.. and cease to exist..
    if ERdogan continues provoking Russia into a war.. then he will get it , your entire navy and airforce destroyed
    and your entire economy destroyed.. Turkey will a failed state ,like somalia ,if russia destroy your economy.. which they can do ,targeting your factories and naval ports and economic zones.. your bravery is not going to save your country from total destruction if erdogan continues its  support for sunni terrorist in syria and attacking his ally.  . today russia military can completely over run ankara if use their nuclear forces to avoid major casualties.. and Americans will not come in your rescue.. if they see nukes flying ,they will run in the other direction.. the last US military will want is to be in the cross fire between russia and turkey ,and come in defense
    of turkey that everyone in europe ,in US and in the world knows is fighting in syria to help alqaeda linked groups there.




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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:45 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Man this cracked me up what Erdo just said

    "Erdogan: If we do not fight the terrorist organizations inside Syria, we will have to fight them later in Turkey"

    He is puching himself in his iffice right now lol1 .
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    Post  Aristide Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:50 pm

    Beside that Turksh population shrinks. What grows are the kurdish population.

    Kurds are good people btw. Non religious, very advanced way of thinking and have a sense of humor. Turks lack all that.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:58 pm

    Anyway, I remember that a few years ago, after the turks shot down a Russian su24 and turkish supported terrorists killed the pilot, most western nation were ready to abandon turkey on its own in case Russia would have massively retaliated. At max they would have increased the anti russian sanctions, but they would not have difended Turkeysnd even less Erdogan.

    Now it would be very similar.

    The only thing I believe it will be not allowed, in case of the worst scenario for Turkey and its dissolution in favour of neighbours and enemies, is for Russia to control the bosphorus.

    The Americans and NATO will never allow it, as long as they exist in their current form.

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