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Syrian War: News #21
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It seems soon there will be insurrections and terrorist cell reactivated across Syria. This whole Syria deal was hanging on shoelaces of Russian boots.
Russia must not cuck.
Russia must not cuck.
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Regular wrote:It seems soon there will be insurrections and terrorist cell reactivated across Syria. This whole Syria deal was hanging on shoelaces of Russian boots.
Russia must not cuck.
Russia is being oddly quiet, it's not like them at all.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Regular wrote:It seems soon there will be insurrections and terrorist cell reactivated across Syria. This whole Syria deal was hanging on shoelaces of Russian boots.
Russia must not cuck.
Russia is being oddly quiet, it's not like them at all.
It is exactly like them.
SAA got bombed by everyone pretty much.
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Yes! This is what makes me wonder why? But maybe something is brewing? By the way...heavy air traffic to Hmeimim, maybe reinforcements.SeigSoloyvov wrote:Regular wrote:It seems soon there will be insurrections and terrorist cell reactivated across Syria. This whole Syria deal was hanging on shoelaces of Russian boots.
Russia must not cuck.
Russia is being oddly quiet, it's not like them at all.
Vann7- Posts : 5385
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#StandWithTulsi
Focus on war against Coronavirus—not protecting AQ-Turkish alliance!
Saw a report a US aircraft carrier is entering the med sea.. this is likely connected to Syria ,
trump might find an excuse to launch hundreds of cruise missiles at syria claiming ,
"its bombing civilians" with an staged event.. with erdogan help..
So if this happen again.. it will be a serious escalation , with US and Turkey trying to save
alqaeda from being wiped in syria.. the key player in all this will be Iran.. they can retaliate at
turkey outpost in syria or at US bases if syria.. if they continue attacking SAA or hezbolah there..
iran will be key in pushing back US and Turkey from syria.. because they will not start a war with iran..
that its mainland is in a very strong position for a fight.. and that controls nothing less than the hormus strait and can close it.. if attacked..
US pentagon will be perfectly capable to get one plane shot down by syria or even a warship sinked by themselves.. and later accuse russia ,in order to find a way to pressure europe to end their business
with russia .
so this is why iran is the perfect one to do defend with ballistic missiles syria . they are already under total sanctions , so they have nothing to lose.. but if Russia attack a US plane.. or damage a warship , they will use the incident to break europe economic business with russia..
so don't be surprised of a new cruise missile attack on syrian army positions in idlib.. a new aircraft carrier
on the way ,towards syria direction likely ,for pentagon to do another attempt to save their alqaeda buddies..
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A new Turkish UACV was downed over #Idlib now
Mohamed Mansour Flag of Egypt
@Mansourtalk
Two BUK air defence systems in Maarat Numan destroyed by Turkish F-16s.
Fuat
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Two Syrian jets downed by Turkey in Idlib: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkey-shoots-down-2-syrian-jets-in-western-idlib/
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Can you stop posting informations that are already posted. If you don't read what other people write don't post your own posts.
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I wonder - how much Dogman paid Russia to let it slide.
They did have talks and agreed to defuse situation in Syria today. Yet, it's getting hotter for Syrians
They did have talks and agreed to defuse situation in Syria today. Yet, it's getting hotter for Syrians
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Regular wrote:I wonder - how much Dogman paid Russia to let it slide.
They did have talks and agreed to defuse situation in Syria today. Yet, it's getting hotter for Syrians
All that is said was Turkish and Russians talking ahead of some meetings between their leaders.
Given how brash Turkey is starting to get, It's entirely possible Putin sold Idlib out to the Turks.
So much for the Russian word if that's true. If your the Kurds and you see this, I'd be worried now.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Regular wrote:I wonder - how much Dogman paid Russia to let it slide.
They did have talks and agreed to defuse situation in Syria today. Yet, it's getting hotter for Syrians
All that is said was Turkish and Russians talking ahead of some meetings between their leaders.
Given how brash Turkey is starting to get, It's entirely possible Putin sold Idlib out to the Turks.
So much for the Russian word if that's true.
It could also be that they gave erdogan the rope with which to hang himself...
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Rodion_Romanovic wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:Regular wrote:I wonder - how much Dogman paid Russia to let it slide.
They did have talks and agreed to defuse situation in Syria today. Yet, it's getting hotter for Syrians
All that is said was Turkish and Russians talking ahead of some meetings between their leaders.
Given how brash Turkey is starting to get, It's entirely possible Putin sold Idlib out to the Turks.
So much for the Russian word if that's true.
It could also be that they gave erdogan the rope with which to hang himself...
Well, the rebels took a few more villages already and Russian planes are vacant in the sky which is really weird they are normally active around this time.
So something is going on behind the scenes with the Russians can't say it's good or bad.
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no idea if true..
but will post it here..
ok.. this is the kind of news i wanted to hear...if this is ever confirmed.. to be true.
it will be a dramatic major change of rules of engagement.. of how war will be fought in syria..
and it will be 100% if Russia and syria and iran favor.. basically iran can aim their ballistic missiles
this time at erdogan positions in syria nonstop.. if they continue attacking syria.. and iranian positions..
so what is erdogan going to do ? start a new full scale war against iran? with russia backing iran from the rear flank and providing iran with endless precision ballistic missiles?
i hope this is true.. this will allow Russia to stay away of a direct confrontation with turkey ,and at the same time fight turkey by proxy.. all this is important for Russia.. because they perceive if they start attacking turkey outpost in syria.. then erdogan will close the bosphurus strait and then attack russian base.. and this will force
russia into doing something they don't wanted .. the use of nuclear weapons.. on turkey positions in syria to send a strong message.. to back down..and to reopen the bosphurus strait if don't want its country to be bombed all its economic zone .. if erdogan declare war on russia..like attack their base of target their planes and shut them down.. russia will fight back.. and this is when all those turkey outpost will be pulverized.. and erdogan advantages will end.. since turkey can be easily destroyed by russian missile forces from the black sea..
with russia and iran bombing turkey with ballistic missiles non stop.. their economic factories and military bases..
so erdogan will lose big time.. he can't fight a nuclear super power alone in a full scale war..and will be forced
to reopen the bosphurus by the use of force.. US used nukes to force japan to surrender.. and so it will work pretty easily for russia too.. and NATO will do nothing ,they will not get into a nuclear interchange with russia
over turkey which they hate.
This is the master chess move..that putin can do.. is a check mate.. turkey start a full scale war on syria..
then iran retaliate turkey army in syria..with a thousands of missiles.. with russia providing coordinates to the ballistic missiles of iran.. and russia provide iran from the caspian sea unlimited weapons. and air defenses.. and combat planes.. and economic support for their help..
if trump attack iran.. then same thing as the previous attack.. us bases in syria bombed and us forces forced to retreat and syrian army advance on those positions.. if erdogan attack iran main land.. iran return the fire to turkey economic zones. so in other words.. US and Turkey will lose big time if engage in a war
against syria ,russia and iran... because russia and syria and iran are fighting terrorism and defending themselves.. while turkey and us are only invading syria and seeking to aid alqaeda to hold in syria.. and the entire world knows this.. reason why most nato countries in europe ,but including australia invest in syria economy and even are helping in rebuilding syrian cities.
i told this first..
but IRAN is the key chess move for a check mate on Turkey and US in syria..
and erdogan and trump will not have the public support at home to start a full scale war against
russia ,iran and syria.. iran and egypt can even block turkey trade through their suez and hormus strait ,
if they block russian trade in the bosphurus.. ..
so this is all a chess game.. and erdogan is going to lose.. big time in syria.. what russia wants is not to directly
be the one to fight turkey ,because it will have to use nukes to stop erdogan.. and his supporters..
but will post it here..
RUS telegram channels report this statement as allegedly coming from #Iran/ian embassy in #Syria. Among other things it says…
mentions 7.”We remind TUR people that their sons been within range of our weapons for over a month&we can retaliate. The gov of Iran informed Prez Erdogan that we’ll strike with full force if TUR army continues to bomb our facilities and Syrian army”
ok.. this is the kind of news i wanted to hear...if this is ever confirmed.. to be true.
it will be a dramatic major change of rules of engagement.. of how war will be fought in syria..
and it will be 100% if Russia and syria and iran favor.. basically iran can aim their ballistic missiles
this time at erdogan positions in syria nonstop.. if they continue attacking syria.. and iranian positions..
so what is erdogan going to do ? start a new full scale war against iran? with russia backing iran from the rear flank and providing iran with endless precision ballistic missiles?
i hope this is true.. this will allow Russia to stay away of a direct confrontation with turkey ,and at the same time fight turkey by proxy.. all this is important for Russia.. because they perceive if they start attacking turkey outpost in syria.. then erdogan will close the bosphurus strait and then attack russian base.. and this will force
russia into doing something they don't wanted .. the use of nuclear weapons.. on turkey positions in syria to send a strong message.. to back down..and to reopen the bosphurus strait if don't want its country to be bombed all its economic zone .. if erdogan declare war on russia..like attack their base of target their planes and shut them down.. russia will fight back.. and this is when all those turkey outpost will be pulverized.. and erdogan advantages will end.. since turkey can be easily destroyed by russian missile forces from the black sea..
with russia and iran bombing turkey with ballistic missiles non stop.. their economic factories and military bases..
so erdogan will lose big time.. he can't fight a nuclear super power alone in a full scale war..and will be forced
to reopen the bosphurus by the use of force.. US used nukes to force japan to surrender.. and so it will work pretty easily for russia too.. and NATO will do nothing ,they will not get into a nuclear interchange with russia
over turkey which they hate.
This is the master chess move..that putin can do.. is a check mate.. turkey start a full scale war on syria..
then iran retaliate turkey army in syria..with a thousands of missiles.. with russia providing coordinates to the ballistic missiles of iran.. and russia provide iran from the caspian sea unlimited weapons. and air defenses.. and combat planes.. and economic support for their help..
if trump attack iran.. then same thing as the previous attack.. us bases in syria bombed and us forces forced to retreat and syrian army advance on those positions.. if erdogan attack iran main land.. iran return the fire to turkey economic zones. so in other words.. US and Turkey will lose big time if engage in a war
against syria ,russia and iran... because russia and syria and iran are fighting terrorism and defending themselves.. while turkey and us are only invading syria and seeking to aid alqaeda to hold in syria.. and the entire world knows this.. reason why most nato countries in europe ,but including australia invest in syria economy and even are helping in rebuilding syrian cities.
i told this first..
but IRAN is the key chess move for a check mate on Turkey and US in syria..
and erdogan and trump will not have the public support at home to start a full scale war against
russia ,iran and syria.. iran and egypt can even block turkey trade through their suez and hormus strait ,
if they block russian trade in the bosphurus.. ..
so this is all a chess game.. and erdogan is going to lose.. big time in syria.. what russia wants is not to directly
be the one to fight turkey ,because it will have to use nukes to stop erdogan.. and his supporters..
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Iran fighting Turkey in Syria?
While Covid-19 disease pandemic is raging in Iran and about to spread to whole region? With shitloads of refugees at EU borders as well?
I wonder how this will turn out. Definetly a recepee for mass human suffering.
But then again, it's middle east and they must love masochism.
While Covid-19 disease pandemic is raging in Iran and about to spread to whole region? With shitloads of refugees at EU borders as well?
I wonder how this will turn out. Definetly a recepee for mass human suffering.
But then again, it's middle east and they must love masochism.
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Arrow wrote:Turkey has introduced a no fly zone in Idib. Another compromitation of Russia...
Will they shoot down Russian drones over Idlib? I think they don't have the range to do that.
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Azi wrote:Yes! This is what makes me wonder why? But maybe something is brewing? By the way...heavy air traffic to Hmeimim, maybe reinforcements.SeigSoloyvov wrote:Regular wrote:It seems soon there will be insurrections and terrorist cell reactivated across Syria. This whole Syria deal was hanging on shoelaces of Russian boots.
Russia must not cuck.
Russia is being oddly quiet, it's not like them at all.
Hopefully counter battery radars and Verba MANPADS. Rebel artillery and Turkish drones days are numbered.
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Regular wrote:Iran fighting Turkey in Syria?
While Covid-19 disease pandemic is raging in Iran and about to spread to whole region? With shitloads of refugees at EU borders as well?
I wonder how this will turn out. Definetly a recepee for mass human suffering.
But then again, it's middle east and they must love masochism.
fighting with ballistic missiles..
it will be much better than the alternative..to have alqaeda overrun syria , and that iran leave russia and syria alone.. and force russia to show their big bombs first and teach its adveraries how russia fight in war with tactical nukes . russia have a similar situation in syria than in ukraine.. in both places is not convenient for russia to start a full war with the proxy force.. if russia had to fight ,it will be better to do it directly with US in self defense.. because americans understand dialogue with force.. but erdogan is irrational and can be crazy enough to send millions of supporters with guns to invade syria.
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ultimatewarrior wrote:Russian news reports another Anka S drone shot down. That makes 3 Anka S drones shot down since last week.
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/1234099887022780422
but but... people were saying that putin abandoned assad..
Russia is bombing non stop cities alqaeda is.. and shooting down non stop turkey drones.
the only thing they don't touch is turkey in their outpost.. or their convoys far from the front line..
but if they try to enter in a city to fight saa they will be bombed.
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Interesting piece about drone / arti combo wrecking havoc on rebels. Can't wait to see Orlan 30 in action. These things pack a laser designator.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-02-27/innovative-uav-technology-helps-syrian-army-offensive-idlib
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-02-27/innovative-uav-technology-helps-syrian-army-offensive-idlib
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Didn't you say that Russia abandoned SAA yourself?
Or you forgot to switch to Ultimate Warrior handle to post this
All in all, Russia sees no need for direct conflict with Turkey no matter what.
Iran on other hand might strike Turkish targets in Syria, yet I am almost sure they are preoccupied by internal sheneginans so there will be no Iran troops fighting Turks any time soon.
Or you forgot to switch to Ultimate Warrior handle to post this
All in all, Russia sees no need for direct conflict with Turkey no matter what.
Iran on other hand might strike Turkish targets in Syria, yet I am almost sure they are preoccupied by internal sheneginans so there will be no Iran troops fighting Turks any time soon.
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Pantsir takes down Anka S after NO FLY ZONE was imposed today. The hunter has become the hunted.
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Doesn't matter if they take it holding it is another matter meanwhile rebels recaptured Al kabir
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Doesn't matter if they take it holding it is another matter meanwhile rebels recaptured Al kabir
So what? Bomb it flat. So far rebels haven't been able to kill a single Russian much less shoot a single bullet into Russia.
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This whole this is seriously weird
Russia could effortlessly eliminate those drones from Idlib airspace with jammers alone and even if they didn't want to have anything to do with Turks they could still easily just resumed bombing ops like they have been doing for years and nobody would bat an eyelash over it but still nothing
They still maintain no-fly zone over Idlib though
In the meantime they just keep massing more assets via air and sea
Then we have Turks doing their best to not even mention Russian Military (let alone touch them or even get near them) and have been piling on SAA and, with increasing frequency, Iran and in return Iran has been getting much louder and more hostile (than usual) towards Turkey
I can't shake the feeling that at some point recently someone somehow overstepped and that if affected Russia's attitude
My mind keeps circling back to Iran and I am getting more and more convinced that it is precisely Iran which is a missing variable in this whole equation
Plus we have Erdogan doing out of the blue what can only be described as a geopolitical gift to Russia: sending refugees to EU
I am not saying Russia had any input whatsoever in this decision bu it would be very unlikely that they would want to do anything that would facilitate reversal of this development
Speaking of which, this was posted on TRT Arabic, pretty much advised route for migrants from Turkey into EU
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RT Arabic is saying that 6 Turkish UAVs are downed today