Syrian War: News #21

There is nothing "wrong there", simply incompetent decision making. One only has to use their brain properly to understand that the whole premise of all the deals, agreements, and appeasements from the "smart" ones was precisely to avoid this situation from unfolding. Not only that but the validation and recognition of Turkish interests have been weaponized by the Turks as if they have a rightful claim and responsibility to protect - in large part, thanks to Putin and his cadre kowtowing. Once the situation unfolds anyway - despite your "best attempts" at being a pacific weakling, you are left with the undeniable fact that they were just wishful thinking, wrong and such individuals should be kept 100 miles away from decision making - booted out, shamed and dismissed. But we know it won't happen, and they'll repeat the same dumb mistakes because it has become ingrained at the top to operate in this manner. In that regard Russia does need new blood at the top - desperately.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1233474579663814657

Pantsir destroyed. I wonder why they let that happen ? Why didn't it target the drone above ? That's a shame.

Where are the su-35 or mig29 on CAP ?

miketheterrible wrote:
Well, those drone attacks were happening over a series of days not a single day.  Other issue is too that they are all aware of the drones but no mandate to shoot them down from either Russia or the Syrian authorities.  So something is wrong there.

indeed.. just like i was thinking..

Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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To clearfy something, again, Turkish drone strikes on SAA forces were carried out even days before Saraqib battle, they were carried out over the span of two weeks and may be even more.

Basically the video of drone airstrikes is a compilation of drone attacks of turkey
on syria , that happened earlier that the syrian army lost control of m5 highway...
so the kill list could be from the start of year 2020 to yesterday.. but it also could have videos
from 2019 on kurds zones..  or even earlier..

so basically the turkish minister of defense ,compiled in one video ,all their strikes
against SAA in the past and possibly kurds too who have no air defenses.. and later used the video for propaganda..purposes.. to "proof" they avenged the dead of its 35 soldiers..

So be careful with turkey propaganda.. they have been caught several times.. when syria bombed
the first turkey conboy last week ,,, erdogan claimed they destroyed a lot of syrian soldiers.. but later
the russian mod denied ,that any turkey plane attacked SAA. it did not happen.. probably even
Erdogan is being fooled by his own military generals. he wanted revenge and they compiled an old video
of many old days battles against SAA and kurds and presented it.. to erdogan ,to calm his anger..

the videos could even be ,from 2015 ,when idlib was over run by turkey army..and russia was not there..
such over run had to be with airforce support.. it could be from few weeks ago.. of a video from several years..
or it could be genuine attacks before the dead of their 35 soldiers.. is impossible to know but turkey have been caught lying several times in the past. so don't buy all the propaganda from turkey governemnt ..
neither from israel attacks on elusive iranians ,that appears to be in every inch of syria , if you follow their claims. .

Rumor is that Russia has demand AD to stand down for Turkish drones.

I wonder what kind of bullshit agreement this is

miketheterrible wrote:Rumor is that Russia has demand AD to stand down for Turkish drones.

I wonder what kind of bullshit agreement this is

it could be fake.. like it was said.. there are reports the videos are old ,from earlier than the liberation of m5.
time will clarify everything..

miketheterrible wrote:Rumor is that Russia has demand AD to stand down for Turkish drones.

I wonder what kind of bullshit agreement this is

SAA soldiers would never obey such an order from Russia. If a man stabs you with a knife trying to kill you, you don't stand there and take it. No human would. A robot would obey such an order. A human wouldn't. Besides, SAA has plenty would 23 mm anti aircraft and MANPADS that easily take down prop planes.

miketheterrible wrote:Rumor is that Russia has demand AD to stand down for Turkish drones.

I wonder what kind of bullshit agreement this is

Could be a trap. Russians just send the 3 grigorovitch off Syria and a full landing ship carrying who knows what. They are also sending su25 and tu-22M in Iran.

They just took pictures of tupolevs with bunch of kh-101 missiles in front of them so they are ready and near the airplanes. Can be loaded in 30 minutes and ready for use. Taking pictures of the bombers with the weapons can be a pretext to bring and prepare many missiles at one place which can be suspisious in peace time.

Leting turks attack first give them permission to blow them to the last in Syria.

If you hear 'russian killed in Syria during turkish strikes" then you know Erdogan is dead meat.

As in fight only the wars you really need to fight.


https://asaland.proboards.com/thread/214/bosnia-trained-terrorists-enter-ukraine



Otherwise you only dissipate your strength and resources, and create needless enemies.

With 25 million Muslims in the Russian Federation, I do not think there is a need for a war against Turkey,


Turks are one of the few nationalities in the world with a genuine respect for the Russians. Western Europeans surely do not have such respect.

I do not think there is a real practical purpose to go to war against Turkey.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Rumor is that Russia has demand AD to stand down for Turkish drones.

I wonder what kind of bullshit agreement this is

Could be a trap. Russians just send the 3 grigorovitch off Syria and a full landing ship carrying who knows what. They are also sending su25 and tu-22M in Iran.

They just took pictures of tupolevs with bunch of kh-101 missiles in front of them so they are ready and near the airplanes. Can be loaded in 30 minutes and ready for use. Taking pictures of the bombers with the weapons can be a pretext to bring and prepare many missiles at one place which can be suspisious in peace time.

Leting turks attack first give them permission to blow them to the last in Syria.

If you hear 'russian killed in Syria during turkish strikes" then you know Erdogan is dead meat.

thing is, these are drones. There is no life lost in shooting one down. So allowing them free reign there seems strange.

Now mind you, Syria has to cover its ass. But man, it took out a pantsir which these drones are a huge target for.

Algeria fought Islamists for decades. Algeria supports LNA against GNA. GNA is Islamists.

Algeria sees tripoli government as a legal one , they didn't interfere to supply weapons to any side in libya , even haftar warned algeria before from supporting the GNA politically .

Backward thinking is the idea that you need an excuse to do what you should have done before things got out of hand. That's just a poor excuse for lack of proper strategic planning, foresight and decision making.

You make up the excuse to justify the military build up, not react after the fact, having already lost the capacity to act earlier with strong force, and instead be forced to deal with a worse situation on the ground. The build up not only signals you're serious, it creates a reassessment for others about real intentions. The dumb way to go about it is Russia's way... wait for shit to get out of hand and then react.

Simple things. Education in Russia about these stratagems must be piss poor. Either that or politicians (+ advisers) being too incompetent at their jobs.

ATLASCUB wrote:Backward thinking is the idea that you need an excuse to do what you should have done before things got out of hand. That's just a poor excuse for lack of proper strategic planning and decision making.

You make up the excuse to justify military build up, not react after the fact, having already lost the capacity to act earlier with strong force, and instead be forced to deal with a worse situation on the ground.

Simply things. Education in Russia about these things must be piss poor. Either that or politicians being too incompetent at their jobs.

oh quite being a fucking retard.

Russia killed 33 turkish rats.

Russia didn't lose anything out of it.  Syria has to start acting on its own too.  Russia doesnt run the fucking country.  Where is SyAF? Why did that Gecko (it doesnt look like a pantsir) not shoot at the drone?

Please, stop being a faggot.  Erdogan went crying to NATO and they didn't do fuck all for him. You would be a total shit leader. But you are a keyboard warrior.

So fuck off.

Russia says it was the SAA - who to believe? Whether with tacit approval or not.... It seems you're losing your marbles when confronted with reality - one of those episodes. If we count Russian blood on Turkish hands via proxy it's quite a lot as well. That's not saying much now does it?

Not to mention these burst of rage doesn't solve, deflect or acquiesce anything that has been argued.

ATLASCUB wrote:Russia says it was the SAA - who to believe? It seems you're losing your marbles when confronted with reality - one of those episodes. If we count Russian blood on Turkish hands via proxy it's quite a lot as well. That's not saying much really does it?

Not to mention these burst of rage doesn't solve, deflect or acquiesce anything that has been argued.

So what if it was SAA? Turkey and Syria are at war. In war soldiers die on both sides. There's nothing strange about that.

ATLASCUB wrote:Russia says it was the SAA - who to believe? Whether with tacit approval or not.... It seems you're losing your marbles when confronted with reality - one of those episodes. If we count Russian blood on Turkish hands via proxy it's quite a lot as well. That's not saying much now does it?

Not to mention these burst of rage doesn't solve, deflect or acquiesce anything that has been argued.

Russia didn't claim shit other than that any that did die by Russias bombings was because they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

SAA and SyAF has to act. Russia has 1 airforce base. Their AD systems are at said base. Only thing they have is their jets and they are busy bombing.

Now where is SyAF MiG-23's and MiG-29's? They are for air defense.

You just like to blame Russia for everything but you know fuck all and you have proved it.

ELINT News
@ELINTNews
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#BREAKING: Turkish MoD announces another Turkish soldier killed and 2 wounded due to Syrian air/artillery attacks today in Idlib

I have proven before that you talk a lot of smack and usually end up looking like an idiot and you're at it again with a straight face. Please spare me the nonsense.

ATLASCUB wrote:I have proven before that you talk a lot of smack and usually end up looking like an idiot and you're at it again with a straight face. Please spare me the nonsense.

Oh yeah? No one did that to me cause they know they were wrong.  You just talk shit like you normally do about something you know fuck all about.  No point sparing you of your stupidity because you show it constantly.  the simple fact you cant even get the basics correct of placement of Russian assets gives me indication you like to talk a lot but know nothing of the situation at all.  You react that's for sure.

When did I look like an Idiot?  I can tell when you looked like an Idiot - right now.

Might I suggest keep your bullshit on twitter and or Reddit where it belongs? Let the adults do the talking here. Thanks child.

Type whatever makes you feel better. It doesn't change reality.

ATLASCUB wrote:Type whatever makes you feel better. It doesn't change reality.

Be a retard, whatever makes you feel better. Doesnt change reality.

Russian military stealing UNHCR aid destined for the Syrian refugees, with the UN apparently not doing anything about it:

https://twitter.com/dickgregory2011/status/1233064648477421568




"Every Syrian refugee became a refugee because of Assad."


Lets end it and go back to peaceful and co-operative relations with Turkey.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Russian military stealing UNHCR aid destined for the Syrian refugees, with the UN apparently not doing anything about it:

https://twitter.com/dickgregory2011/status/1233064648477421568

That shit was confiscated recently from the terrorists in Idlib.

Arrow wrote:Another Turkish hits
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1233486300172386309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1233486300172386309&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmilitariaszmula.wordpress.com%2F2019%2F04%2F30%2Fkonflikty-na-bliskim-wschodzie-6%2Fcomment-page-1%2F%23comments

Erdogan was not afraid of Ch-101 and Tu-22M3??

Legitimacy of this is thin. No date or location other than Jihadist lover Charles Lister. Wonderful.