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Syrian War: News #21
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Some of the hospitals that were "totally destroyed by air strikes" according to the UN.
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Lets pretend for a second that this is true. It must be hard for the mighty turkish army to getting f...ed so hard by a gay general. On the other hand this would explain why he is so good in it.
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SYRIAN TROOPS RECAPTURE SHEIKH AQIL FROM TURKISH-BACKED AL-QAEDA MILITANTS
(MAP UPDATE)
one of the erdogan terrorist captured alive.. see the diference ottomans..
how Syrian army behave with turkey terrorist that surrender..
https://twitter.com/jamlyyyyy/status/1235561441576603648
Syrian army teaching the world ,how to show even mercy for their enemies
to convince them abandon erdogan regime a his war on syria.
(MAP UPDATE)
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- 615 vehicles destroyed.
-50 vehicles, 10 Turkish BMB cars and 3 tanks were destroyed.
-200 terrorists including ringleaders of several nationalities were eliminated on the axis of Zaweyeh mountain.
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-Liberation of an area of 150 sq km on the axis of Zaweyeh mountain from February 20 till February 25
Losses of terrorist groups and Turkish regime:
-Hundreds of terrorist groups' centers and car bombs, rockets launchers vehicles were destroyed.
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-Hundreds of terrorists were killed and thousands were wounded .
-Around 100 vehicles belonging to the Turkish regime were destroyed as they were used by terrorist groups in the battles.
-6100 terrorists were killed and 2550 were wounded.
one of the erdogan terrorist captured alive.. see the diference ottomans..
how Syrian army behave with turkey terrorist that surrender..
https://twitter.com/jamlyyyyy/status/1235561441576603648
Syrian army teaching the world ,how to show even mercy for their enemies
to convince them abandon erdogan regime a his war on syria.
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Cease-fire
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Unbelievable ... but look like Putin and Erdogan reach an agreement.. 
Even the body language was very promising.. Erdogan smiled to Putin and noticed much less tensions
at the end of the meeting.. The meeting was not planned to be with direct talks.... but Erdogan requested
the meetings to be face to face... with Putin..
this doesn't means the war over idlib is over. but ,at very least it means ,if fight continue ,that they will keep the disagreements only in the idlib zone and will work from going out of control... however if body language is anything.. then it looks a major relieve in the face of erdogan delegation.. someone from turkey delation was caught in camera suspiring.. as a major relief..
my guess is either...
1) either Erdogan is playing Putin into a trap.. and got what he wanted..
2) or Erdogan was convinced to negotiate to a new policy that was more closer to both side interest.
The face of putin and lavrov was very relaxed.. only tension was on turkey delegation side..
so if body language says anything is that Erdogan will be the one losing more.. in the negotiation.
but it could be just Erdogan making more promises , to earn time.. and trick putin.. into a trap.
for this negotiation to materialize in the battlefield.. it could take hours or a week to implement a cease of fire.
Make no mistake , putin will never agree ,to order the syrian army to retreat any inch of gained zone...
if he manage to get Erdogan to agree to reopen the m4 and m5 highways for Syrian citizens in full ,
and a buffer zone /safe zone in and around both highways all the way to latakkia in city Jisr -Al-Shughur.. and the cease of fire hold.. then it will be a huge victory for Putin diplomacy.. and a compromise of Erdogan..
and erdogan will be allowed to hold the the zones at idlib main city ,and north of it for now. that way
Erdogan can save face. .with his citizens..
if the cease of fire holds after m4 and m5 fully reopened...for syrian people to use.. then will be a huge
success of Russian diplomacy. like i said before idlib main city is full of hostile citizens to ASSAD and russia.
and is a bad idea to take control of that city , since it will be like a cancer for syria.. and destabilize the country.
Even the body language was very promising.. Erdogan smiled to Putin and noticed much less tensions
at the end of the meeting.. The meeting was not planned to be with direct talks.... but Erdogan requested
the meetings to be face to face... with Putin..
this doesn't means the war over idlib is over. but ,at very least it means ,if fight continue ,that they will keep the disagreements only in the idlib zone and will work from going out of control... however if body language is anything.. then it looks a major relieve in the face of erdogan delegation.. someone from turkey delation was caught in camera suspiring.. as a major relief..
my guess is either...
1) either Erdogan is playing Putin into a trap.. and got what he wanted..
2) or Erdogan was convinced to negotiate to a new policy that was more closer to both side interest.
The face of putin and lavrov was very relaxed.. only tension was on turkey delegation side..
so if body language says anything is that Erdogan will be the one losing more.. in the negotiation.
but it could be just Erdogan making more promises , to earn time.. and trick putin.. into a trap.
for this negotiation to materialize in the battlefield.. it could take hours or a week to implement a cease of fire.
Make no mistake , putin will never agree ,to order the syrian army to retreat any inch of gained zone...
if he manage to get Erdogan to agree to reopen the m4 and m5 highways for Syrian citizens in full ,
and a buffer zone /safe zone in and around both highways all the way to latakkia in city Jisr -Al-Shughur.. and the cease of fire hold.. then it will be a huge victory for Putin diplomacy.. and a compromise of Erdogan..
and erdogan will be allowed to hold the the zones at idlib main city ,and north of it for now. that way
Erdogan can save face. .with his citizens..
if the cease of fire holds after m4 and m5 fully reopened...for syrian people to use.. then will be a huge
success of Russian diplomacy. like i said before idlib main city is full of hostile citizens to ASSAD and russia.
and is a bad idea to take control of that city , since it will be like a cancer for syria.. and destabilize the country.
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Cease-fires and agreements ... like it didn't prove to not work.
Russia never agrees to stop bombing terrorists. But Turkey supports terrorists. So russia will keep bombing as usual.
SAA is not considereds as terrorist. So Turkey will have to stop bombing them.
At then end SAA will take the land around those checkpoints line they did with the other observation posts.
Erdogan gave up.
Russia never agrees to stop bombing terrorists. But Turkey supports terrorists. So russia will keep bombing as usual.
SAA is not considereds as terrorist. So Turkey will have to stop bombing them.
At then end SAA will take the land around those checkpoints line they did with the other observation posts.
Erdogan gave up.
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Isos wrote:Cease-fires and agreements ... like it didn't prove to not work.
Russia never agrees to stop bombing terrorists. But Turkey supports terrorists. So russia will keep bombing as usual.
SAA is not considereds as terrorist. So Turkey will have to stop bombing them.
At then end SAA will take the land around those checkpoints line they did with the other observation posts.
Erdogan gave up.
i don't want to be that optimistic..
but if Erdogan agreed to not fight SAA in the captured zones.. and even give away m4 highway , for syria too..
(that russian army was going to take anyway by force) , and Erdogan allow Russia to capture Jisr -Al Shughur...
to secure the latakia zone and control the gate of it.. then this will significantly improve the security of
russian base.. terrorist drones will be pushed farther away from latakkia.. then it will be a close to virtual end of the war of Turkey against Syria.... and the only remaining fights left will be kicking US bases from kurdish zones and from syrian-jordan border. .
putin can retake all idlib later with diplomacy without firing a bullet,when a new government comes in power..
that is friendly not only to russia but to syria too..
i think is worth of trying this new agreement.. the alternative is an endless war.. because with many syrian and turk soldies killed. already the cease of fire working in kurdish zones.. What is more interesting is the body
launguage of the minister of defense of russia .. he was unsure what to think about the deal.. he was cautious to call it a victory.. but the minister of defense of turkey ,was all smiles with lavrov.. so there is a real chance
that they can make it work.. a permanent cease of fire.. it will be foolish for erdogan to backstab russia again..
and face an endless war with SAA with russia backing them.
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Syria also lost a lot of people in the last battles. Furthermore, with Saraqib taken and the ceasefire in act, the circulation on the M5 should be fully secured.
Lastly, they practically agreed in enabling the circulation on the M4. Furthermore, as already said, this ceasefire allows Syria to concentrate on the issues in the south.
Anyway the terrorists or the Turks will sooner or later break the agreement, so Syria will restart the cleaning operation in idlib. In the meanwhile they stop at a good point. Aleppo countryside has been secured, the M5 is open, and possibly also the M4 from Aleppo to Tartus will be available for traffic. In addition also Aleppo airport could be reopened. Of course this is not the end of the war, but it is a good safe point for Syria.
Lastly, they practically agreed in enabling the circulation on the M4. Furthermore, as already said, this ceasefire allows Syria to concentrate on the issues in the south.
Anyway the terrorists or the Turks will sooner or later break the agreement, so Syria will restart the cleaning operation in idlib. In the meanwhile they stop at a good point. Aleppo countryside has been secured, the M5 is open, and possibly also the M4 from Aleppo to Tartus will be available for traffic. In addition also Aleppo airport could be reopened. Of course this is not the end of the war, but it is a good safe point for Syria.
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This ceasefire like all the rest is nothing more than a temp stop. Wouldn't get your hopes held high over it.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:This ceasefire like all the rest is nothing more than a temp stop. Wouldn't get your hopes held high over it.
They didn't send full cargo ships and cargo planes last days to prepare a cease-fire.
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Last time the borders of the "de-escalation zone" were identical with the borders of the Idlib province. Now the demarkation line is the M4 highway, which will be controlled by Russia. This is deep inside Idlib.
Will be hard even for Turkey to declare this as some sort of victory. 5 days ago they were claiming that they will take Damaskus and Aleppo, now they gave up nearly half of Idlib.
Will be hard even for Turkey to declare this as some sort of victory. 5 days ago they were claiming that they will take Damaskus and Aleppo, now they gave up nearly half of Idlib.
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Technically Turkey never said that it was the rebels.
You can't blame the Turks for everything the rebels say, Turkey only wanted Idlib nothing more.
You can't blame the Turks for everything the rebels say, Turkey only wanted Idlib nothing more.
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Maybe the Russian government has finally started to grow a pair. I would threaten to kill Turk Stream and other trade and let these
imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting
Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting
Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
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kvs wrote:Maybe the Russian government has finally started to grow a pair. I would threaten to kill Turk Stream and other trade and let these
imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting
Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
Um No EU nation is actively supporting the turks in idlib.
Also, A lot of Russia's income is created by that gas and if Russia weaponized the gas like that it would only play into the hands of the US. So it's a good thing you aren't in power.
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exactly, if they start using it as a weapon and threaten to stop the transit, it would backfire. Russia shall not be too dependent on gas and oil exports, but if they provide resources to invest in the country it would be silly to leave the market only for the americans.SeigSoloyvov wrote:kvs wrote:Maybe the Russian government has finally started to grow a pair. I would threaten to kill Turk Stream and other trade and let these
imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting
Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
Um No EU nation is actively supporting the turks in idlib.
Also, A lot of Russia's income is created by that gas and if Russia weaponized the gas like that it would only play into the hands of the US. So it's a good thing you aren't in power.
USA is slowly losing the control on the world economy and soon also the dollar will stop be used as the main world currency, just because of its weaponisation from the American government...
Russia shall not walk on the same path...
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The text appears to me to be quite strongly in favour of Syria whilst providing Russia every right to continue with its campaign. One of those leaders went to bed disappointed, it wasn’t Putin.
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Rodion_Romanovic wrote:exactly, if they start using it as a weapon and threaten to stop the transit, it would backfire. Russia shall not be too dependent on gas and oil exports, but if they provide resources to invest in the country it would be silly to leave the market only for the americans.SeigSoloyvov wrote:kvs wrote:Maybe the Russian government has finally started to grow a pair. I would threaten to kill Turk Stream and other trade and let these
imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting
Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
Um No EU nation is actively supporting the turks in idlib.
Also, A lot of Russia's income is created by that gas and if Russia weaponized the gas like that it would only play into the hands of the US. So it's a good thing you aren't in power.
USA is slowly losing the control on the world economy and soon also the dollar will stop be used as the main world currency, just because of its weaponisation from the American government...
Russia shall not walk on the same path...
You are both deluded westerners who think Russia needs to sell the gas to you more than it needs to keep it for
itself in the future. The only backfire, you ignorant clowns, will be on the EU-tard economy. You think that
Germany will put up a few more windmills and that will solve the energy gap. Hilarious. That must be why Germany
is burning coal while fretting about global warming. Since all those solar panels and windmills are such easy
replacements for natural gas and nuclear. Delusion is strong indeed.
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crod wrote:The text appears to me to be quite strongly in favour of Syria whilst providing Russia every right to continue with its campaign. One of those leaders went to bed disappointed, it wasn’t Putin.
I expect Erdo-turd to break the deal soon since he will have EU-tards and yanquis pushing his ego to do it. Nice to see Putin
not bending the knee to this turd and just giving him a few grams of face saving powder.
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Before one hour
Turkish Ministry of Defense: Two Turkish soldiers were killed and 3 others were wounded in an attack by the Syrian regime forces in Idlib.
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Turkish Ministry of Defense: Two Turkish soldiers were killed and 3 others were wounded in an attack by the Syrian regime forces in Idlib.
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So as per the ceasefire ,SAA will not go back to the borders of Sochi agreement as Erdo promised before
Also securing M5 and rearranging the units will be great for SAA .
So what Erdo did exactly by his operation except killing his soldiers and being idiot in front of his people
Also securing M5 and rearranging the units will be great for SAA .
So what Erdo did exactly by his operation except killing his soldiers and being idiot in front of his people
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kvs wrote:
You are both deluded westerners who think Russia needs to sell the gas to you more than it needs to keep it for
itself in the future. The only backfire, you ignorant clowns, will be on the EU-tard economy. You think that
Germany will put up a few more windmills and that will solve the energy gap. Hilarious. That must be why Germany
is burning coal while fretting about global warming. Since all those solar panels and windmills are such easy
replacements for natural gas and nuclear. Delusion is strong indeed.
I never said that Russia needs to sell the gas to Europe. Just that it is convenient for both Russia and Its western commercial partners.
Of course Russia should not (and will not) concentrate only on Europe, but at the same time it would not be beneficial for her to look only at India and China, dismissing totally countries from which a lot of the russian culture has been influenced for centuries.
By the way, my country was the first to buy gas and oil from the soviet union when we had a real patriot and brilliant entrepreneur as head of ENI, Enrico Mattei (he was also the most influencial person in Italy and possibly in the whole Europe at that time).
He was also the guy that wanted to sign honest contracts woth african and middle east countries, where such countries would not be exploited, but there had to be a mutual advantage. Unfortunately a few years later he was killed by French or American intelligence (they put a bomb on his plane).
Anyway, for several things i feel that Russia still is the future of western values and culture (that here in the west we already lost or forgot), and i felt much more freedom when i was discussing with my russian teacher last time that I was in Moscow than what it is present here in the EU (e.g. talking about the concept of traditional values may cause me to lose my job)
I am the first to criticise the energy policy of Merkelland or of my own country, that even if in the 80s had few nuclear power plants, it had very good nuclear engineers and physicists, and research in various technologies for the civil nuclear sector. Too bad that our inept government shut down everything after Chernobyl to placate the public fear (by the way the father of a friend of mine was a newly graduated nuclear engineer when that happened, and he lost forever the possibility of working in his favourite field in Italy...) while we continue even today to buy electrical energy from french nuclear powerplant located next to our borders...
And I would be really glad if my country (together with Greece) would leave the EU and stopped being an American, french and german colony. However i can't change the current situation. The only thing that I could do was looking for better opportunities elsewhere. At least my home country gave me the possibility to receive a good education.
Anyway that was quite off topic.
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kvs wrote:Maybe the Russian government has finally started to grow a pair. I would threaten to kill Turk Stream and other trade and let these imperial-wannabes chose. This requires Russia to finally consider not shipping cheap gas to EU-tards who are now openly supporting Turk invaders to spite Russia. Eat sh*t, scum.
They already have one. Why would they bother with threats when they just got everything they want by simply asking?
Did people really expect Russian to tell Erdogan on officila visit ''You got owned, your finances are in the shitter, your military sucks, your soldiers are noobs and your momma ain't shit''?
Like Teddy said: speak softly and carry a big stick
Just check this out:
Apparently due to the safe area in the north and south of M4, opposition forces will evacuate all areas south of M4.
https://twitter.com/leventkemaI/status/1235621097204092930
Idlib agreement does not stipulate the withdrawal of the Syrian Army from ANY captured territory
https://twitter.com/mig29_/status/1235624777269874690?s=21
Russia increased their import quota for Turkish tomatoes by 50k tonnes
https://www.paraanaliz.com/2020/ekonomi/turk-domatesi-rusya-vizesini-kapti-44227/
Agreement map (Reddit):
What 6km North&South to M4 looks like (Reddit):
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No more candies kid, Go to sleep now .
Joke aside, how long do you think this guy could hold himself not attacking russians in Syria and got blown up by some Kalibr ? Looks like the relations btw the two is everything but a relation.
.Joke aside, how long do you think this guy could hold himself not attacking russians in Syria and got blown up by some Kalibr ? Looks like the relations btw the two is everything but a relation.
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Isos wrote:No more candies kid, Go to sleep now
Joke aside, how long do you think this guy could hold himself not attacking russians in Syria and got blown up by some Kalibr ? Looks like the relations btw the two is everything but a relation.
Check this one , Catherine the Great who defeated the ottman empire
