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Russian military truck with increased payload "Tornado-U" spotted in Syria.
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GarryB wrote:I remember reading comments by many pilots in Vietnam that said the 14.5mm was the most dangerous because it was high velocity and moved very fast but unless they were using tracer was hard to spot on the ground because of its small size and mobility.
The rounds themselves were very effective against the light structure of a helicopter and would punch right through the lighter ones like butter.
As you can see from the video it would require a lot of rounds to be fired to get a kill and it is not really clear what actually destroyed the helicopter... the large fireball suggests a missile IMHO.
I would think that such a gun mount would be more valuable against ground targets... devastating against troops and light structures and vehicles... body armour means nothing to this gun.
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Hole wrote:Last night a syrian S-200 missile missed the target but flew across half of Israel and nearly hit their nuclear reactor.
Iron Dome and Arrow are working as good as Patriot.
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medo wrote:Hole wrote:Last night a syrian S-200 missile missed the target but flew across half of Israel and nearly hit their nuclear reactor.
Iron Dome and Arrow are working as good as Patriot.
You could add David Sling and Barak 8 here as well...
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Hole wrote:Now the israeli defence minister claims they launched 10 Patriot and some other missiles (David Sling?) against the SAM but missed it. Makes it even worse.
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David's Sling, more like David's Sieve am I right? Queer thing really, lots of Western allies would be looking to supplement their own failing Patriots with Israeli SAMs which are supposed to be better and have the real-world interceptions to back it up. And then this happens. To add insult to injury its not even a full-fledged hardcore ballistic missile like the Iskander but an errant ersatz Soviet relic of a missile, the kind many shitholes have in their arms depot. If ever the Iskander missile is used against the Patriot or the David's Sling I can only imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth many fanboysJohninMK wrote:
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Israeli Defense Minister Beni Gantz officially acknowledged that the attempt to shoot down the S-200PMT missile failed. 4 US and 6 Israeli Patriot SAMs & 2 Israeli SAMs "David Sling" missed the S-200 at 17 km M2.7
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lyle6 wrote:David's Sling, more like David's Sieve am I right? Queer thing really, lots of Western allies would be looking to supplement their own failing Patriots with Israeli SAMs which are supposed to be better and have the real-world interceptions to back it up. And then this happens. To add insult to injury its not even a full-fledged hardcore ballistic missile like the Iskander but an errant ersatz Soviet relic of a missile, the kind many shitholes have in their arms depot. If ever the Iskander missile is used against the Patriot or the David's Sling I can only imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth many fanboysJohninMK wrote:
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Israeli Defense Minister Beni Gantz officially acknowledged that the attempt to shoot down the S-200PMT missile failed. 4 US and 6 Israeli Patriot SAMs & 2 Israeli SAMs "David Sling" missed the S-200 at 17 km M2.7
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Israeli Defense Minister Beni Gantz officially acknowledged that the attempt to shoot down the S-200PMT missile failed. 4 US and 6 Israeli Patriot SAMs & 2 Israeli SAMs "David Sling" missed the S-200 at 17 km M2.7
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GarryB wrote:The difference between the SA-5 (S-200) and Iskander, from the normal ballistic missiles such systems are intended to engage is that while they also fly very fast just like long range ballistic weapons, their flight path is unpredictable.... they are flying like a plane rather than following a trajectory like a thrown rock.
When you detect a rock that has been launched at you via a catapult you can track it for a few seconds and determine its speed and its flight path... if it is not powered then you can quickly project a future flight path along which you can launch interceptor missiles to intercept it, but these two missiles are powered most of their flight because Iskander is intended for evading air defence systems around the target so it manouvers all the way in despite moving at speeds of mach 6-7.
The S-200 is trying to engage enemy aircraft targets out to 250km so it can manouver at mach 4-5 out to at least that distance not following a ballistic path till the rocket fuel runs out.
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Russian escorts for Iranian Tankers, some said. But I do not see any escorts. Did they go to Crimea? Even with escorts, I doubt that Usraelis will stop attacks. Perhaps if Tanker carrying oil was Russian flagged and with Russian or Chinese crew ?
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