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    2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

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    Post  andalusia Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:34 am

    elconquistador wrote:
    calripson wrote:The American elite families that arose out of the industrial revolution and the building of railroads, steel, coal, and oil in the late 1800s were quite analogous in their time to the oligarchs of 1990s Russia. The Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellers et al owed their success to their access to London based capital (America had very undeveloped and primitive capital markets at the time). Whoever had the deepest pockets won the race and they were forever indebted to their London banking buddies. It is no surprise that over a century later their foundations and their interests still align with those interests. That is the root of what people refer to as "Globalists" or a "New World Order".

    At the root of what people consider the 'NWO' is the central banking system

    The concept of a private central bank, owned by banking dynasties, that has governments by the balls through huge sums of debt.

    A central bank that literally owns the money printers and decides on monetary policy (and in 2021 every other policy under the sun)

    Let's just call the 'European' bankers by name for the sake of clarity. The Lehmanns, the Goldmann Sachs, the Kuhn-Loebs, the Rockefellers, the Lazards, the Warburgs, the Israel Moses Seifs..

    .. and last but not least the Rothschilds.

    elconquistador: There is no need for the IMF, World Bank or USAID to finance infrastructure projects.  It is unfortunate the countries like Russia, Venezuela, Serbia and many more countries around the world don't know that their are alternative economic and monetary theories to the neoliberal oligarchic economics pushed by the US:

    https://federsgenius.wordpress.com/2015/07/05/thinking-outside-the-box-how-a-bankrupt-germany-solved-its-infrastructure-problems/
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    Post  andalusia Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:21 am

    It would be good if alternatives schools of economic thought were better known too like Henry George and Land Value Taxation:

    https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/henry-georges-land-value-tax-idea-whose-time-come/

    https://www.econlib.org/land-taxes-the-return-of-henry-george/



    Friedrich List economic theory is not taught in American Economic classes but he was very important:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-mind-behind-early-american-protectionism/

    https://risingtidefoundation.net/2020/12/31/why-russia-saved-the-united-states/
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    Post  andalusia Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:00 am

    This is also some more good reading about the American system that more countries should utilize:

    https://risingtidefoundation.net/2021/01/06/how-to-save-a-dying-republic-part-one-hamiltons-genius/

    https://risingtidefoundation.net/2021/01/06/how-to-save-a-dying-republic-part-two-lincoln-and-the-greenbacks/


    https://risingtidefoundation.net/2021/01/16/prometheus-and-america-the-true-story-of-the-american-system-by-anton-chaitkin/
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    Post  elconquistador Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 pm

    Joe Biden is president but the mobs were back at it in Seattle, Portland, Denver and NYC

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1352043124512747523

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1352177194727043072

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1351978224021024769

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    Post  calripson Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:36 pm

    kvs wrote:Fractional reserve banking requires interest as an anti-inflationary spring pulling the money back into the place where
    it was created, the banks.   The value of fractional reserve banking is that the macroeconomic injection of money
    can happen "naturally" through a market driven mechanism instead of a government printing press.  

    At the macroeconomic scale there is no conservation of money.   The money supply must increase as the economy
    grows.  This fact is completely missed by all the idiotic comparisons of the national level economy to mom and pop
    corner stores which are purely microeconomic constructs.   Yeah, a corner store cannot grow its money in the bank
    because it is not operating on the same principles as the macroeconomy.   If the money supply was fixed there would
    be perpetual deflationary pressure and money would not be efficiently injected where it is needed.   Entities holding
    large amounts of it would have to get some sort of incentive to spend most of their holdings.   But such entities
    would have no reason to act like banks and could store large amounts of money where it never circulates.

    Having banks lend money supplies it where it is needed.   For example, in short term operations of companies.
    Companies cannot afford to wait for savings to accumulate to retool or spend money to respond to market
    pressures.   Their routine borrowing is not part of the fake debt economics practiced by governments who
    stimulate GDP by playing national debt accumulation games.   Without banks everything would require
    accumulation of some finite supply of money units (gold, silver, fiat, chunks of salt, whatever).  Any physical
    growth of the economy would drive competition for this relatively diminishing pool of currency.  That would actually
    be a much worse regime than having to pay interest.

    There is an argument to be made for interest rates as a cost of money in terms of resource allocation in microeconomics. (Not saying it is 100% correct or that alternatives do not exist). In any case, there is no reason for a cartel of private central banks. This was supposed to be a government function. In terms of the real world, what matters is the physical economy which is driven by human creativity - technology and innovation.

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    Post  calripson Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:47 pm

    kvs wrote:It is quite a culture shock for Afrikaners to move to Russia.   Protestants of Dutch descent moving from a tropical/arid country
    to an Orthodox country with long and harsh winters.    For some reason Protestants get triggered when they see Russian priests
    wear extravagant Byzantine style robes.   I think they have formed a reactionary mindset based on their fight against Catholicism.
    The Orthodox Church never sold indulgences.   Orthodox lavishness is traditionally not a sign of corruption but of devotion.
    But I am not going to claim that today the fetish for being chauffeured in Maybachs is not the same as in Catholic Poland.

    I agree and many of the disaffected conservative are religious Protestants of the type who take the bible as literal objective truth despite the logical problems that presents. Russia even has a ban on proselytizing. They are also very gun focused and have very libertarian views on gun laws - which are going to change under a Democratic leadership. In Russia, gun laws are strict. I think for example that the private ownership of real (non-pneumatic) handguns is banned. In the US, I can legally carry a handgun in 43 states. Even ownership of machine guns is legal in most states in the US. Perhaps those are not the type of people you need as immigrants to Russia as their cultural heritage is too different.
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    Post  calripson Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:32 pm

    "President Biden’s personal touches in the Oval Office include replacing a portrait of Andrew Jackson and adding a bust of labor icon Cesar Chavez behind the Resolute Desk, according to The Washington Post.

    The new layout includes busts of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy on either side of the fireplace as well as the Chavez bust. Other busts in the office include Rosa Parks and Eleanor Roosevelt.

    A portrait of Jackson, the seventh president, has been removed and replaced with a portrait of Benjamin Franklin. Trump has frequently identified with Jackson, who was elected president on a populist platform and railed against entrenched interests."

    What Andrew Jackson is most known for is shutting down the private central bank of the era and replacing it with state banks.

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:55 am

    I guess this is correct. 2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war? - Page 26 Presid10

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:47 am


    Just to clarify little something, it's unfair to pin Bosnia on George Bush Original, USA involvement started in earnest with Clinton

    Also, for a peak Cold War president Gipper has surprisingly few wars under his belt

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    Post  elconquistador Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:11 am

    JoJo Biden has his first win under his belt

    Thousands of troops put away in windy parking garages with 2 available bathroom stalls and one outlet. I guess they really want to make it like Afghanistan

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/national-guard-troops-vacate-capitol-461220

    Or maybe it was punishment for the troops turning their backs to the Biden motorcade?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1352007260713660423
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    Post  kvs Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:53 pm

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1352573605817823232

    A federal judge has rejected a request by Parler, the free speech Twitter alternative, to have its hosting restored by Amazon.

    This is how oppression works in the "beacon of freedom" west. The inane argument that private companies can do whatever they want
    is used as a fig leaf to cover racketeering and suppression of legitimate business activity. This judge is a true POS. His logic is that
    a monopoly can engage in monopoly control because it can. That is not logic, that is whoring. Funny how there is no common law
    precedent for regulation of abuse of power by either government or business in the UK, America and Canada. I have BS common law
    precedents telling me that I can't move my fence to my property line, but destruction of business through dirty corporate tricks and
    brazen action is somehow not even considered in the law and requires special legislative action.

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    Post  calripson Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:59 pm

    https://forward.com/news/462330/enough-for-a-minyan-a-jewish-whos-who-of-bidens-cabinet-to-be/

    Certainly no signs of antisemitism in the Biden administration.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:43 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/amazon-demands-person-union-vote-after-arguing-mail-ballots-raise-risk-fraud

    US oligarchs have one standard of voting when it might go against their interests, and a totally different standard of
    voting when it serves them.

    But Putin lives in palaces...right...

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    thegopnik wrote:I guess this is correct. 2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war? - Page 26 Presid10

    What's interesting is how lefties went out their way to rehabilitate GW's legacy. They went from having derangement towards GW, and now towards DT, and all GW's crimes are forgiven. Also don't forget how many media personalities were supporters of Trump before the presidency, and had a 'change of heart' after the fact.

    Remember Jeffrey Epstein owned these two paintings.

    Remember Jeffrey Epstein owned these two men.
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    https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1269566596718174213

    I'm sure Bill Clinton thought he could wear Monica Lewinsky's dress better than she could....I mean the dress had Bill's    DNA    .....err name written all over it! lol1 clown
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:29 am

    The D. Party is the neocon party. When W. was president the neocons ran the show. So there is no left but Soros and PC identity
    fake "left" in the USA. Neocons going back to their Trotskyist roots.

    BTW, Trotsky wasn't a real leftist. His whole shtick was to destroy and then destroy again. The PC cult is living up to the
    standards of its de facto founder.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:51 pm



    Alexander Mercouris is a lawyer so his opinions are not superfluous.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:54 pm

    Apparently this incident happened last Saturday, but very little is mentioned of this in NATzO MSM because insurrection in Russia is a more important coverage Rolling Eyes

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:27 pm

    PhSt wrote:Apparently this incident happened last Saturday, but very little is mentioned of this in NATzO MSM because insurrection in Russia is a more important coverage  Rolling Eyes
    And yesterday there were Antifa riots there. Just to punish them.


    EDIT link added

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/antifa-trashes-tacoma-after-viral-video-cop-driving-through-crowd

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:29 pm

    The guy who went under the SUV is lucky he did not get his brain popped out of his cranium. But I am sure that he
    got serious back, rib and other injuries.

    US cops are high strung and dangerous. This act clearly demonstrates a lack of professional detachment and calmness
    needed for the job. It is like the cop was triggered by the mob. I supposed that there is always a fear of dying from
    hand guns in the USA. Which effectively highlights that gun "rights" are not the wondrous thing they are made out to
    be. And no, your guns will not save your from the state. Saddam's Iraq had plenty of guns (including machine guns)
    in private hands. There was no magical guarantee of freedom that resulted from them.

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    Post  calripson Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 pm

    The US press is fawning over a teenage boy who turned in his Trump supporting Dad to the FBI. He is Pavlik Morozov 2020 - but in this case the kid is real and not an invention of the state.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:35 pm

    So YouCrap has age-restricted the video. Nothing that 5 year olds don't see day in and day out in their video games and mass
    entertainment in that video. It would justify restriction if you did have the guy's skull being crushed and the gore was apparent.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:54 am

    More on the proposed election rule changes. If this passes many dictator run countries might look more democratic in comparison.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-have-released-roadmap-one-party-rule
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:03 pm

    Makes other despotic dictators' convoys look like a trip to McDonalds. The rulers of the World's largest economy (for now) proving that they can't trust their own people. The result of antagonising much of the World over the past 50+ years.

    Probably more armoured vehicles there than the next 10 largest countries combined (there are more but the camera didn't have a wide enough angle lens to get them all in). Forget the missile gap, how about the armoured SUV gap?  Laughing

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