Two wrongs don't make a right.
Just pointing out the inedible western hypocrisy... at the moment the Azeri are in the wrong because they are using violence to get their way... the obvious problem with that is two fold... it leaves things open for the other side to do exactly the same when they are stronger, and it also assumes you have the strongest friends to call on when things go bad.
There needs to be some sort of land swapping deal that both sides are happy with and neither was forced to sign on threat of getting wiped out by the other... but that never happens.
I'm all for a peaceful resolution, return of displaced and refugees, and gradual handover to Azerbaijan with guarantees and under UN auspices
The chance for peaceful resolution has passed... they have tried to take it by force... that should never be rewarded...
The old UN resolutions are useless.
New ones aren't much good either...
The argument that Armenia had to seize the land to protect people is absurd.
Azeri did not have guns to their heads, the people could have moved into Armenia considering its right next door.
The Argument that the Serbs were slaughtering the Kosovo Albanians is absurd, the Albanians in Kosovo could have moved back to Albania considering it is right next door...
so a country has the right to annex parts of another country over an ethnic group, give me a break
So when does Serbia get Kosovo back then?
If Armenia is so worried about those people, then they can tell Azeri. They want the land that is all.
So the American Indians and Mexicans can just tell Americans to fuck off back to where they came from because they want their land back... I am surprised it is so easy...
"We will mass evacuate anyone who wants to leave first and after that is complete we will hand over the territory, so let's stop shooting each other".
The first Mexican who comes to your door with a gun to tell you they started this little war to get their land back will get shot in the face.... don't be such an idiot.
Also if someone wants to bring up Kosovo oh sure, but I better not see those same people complaining say about the kurds wanting to do the same thing or any other situation.
The Kurds are another fine example.... as an ethnic group are they not entitled to create a new country on the lands they have lived for for thousands of years... you do realise the countries we know of in this entire area didn't exist at the start of the 1900s...
These borders that seem to be set in stone are not as old as most of the buildings in the region.
If your going to sit there and say its okay for Armenia to do this under that guise then don't be a hypocrite and deny others the same right because you don't like it.
The fact is that they did not invade, they already lived there and why should they become part of another country just because of their location on some map?
Pre WWI maps of the region show no countries called Saudi Arabia or Iraq or Kuwaite... these are western creations post WWI.
Man, that footage of the 32 ambushed Azerbaijani soldiers is rough. Looks like they were caught completely off guard. Some of them look like they were eating.
War is no way to sort out these sorts of things...
The funny thing is that here is SS telling us about the sacredness of borders... after an illegal tour of Syria helping a group of people fight against its government to become a separate country or to commit sedition.
Self-determination is fine and all, the only thing is people better apply the same standard to all regardless if they like it to not.
Awww, Grow Up. You know as well as we know.... might makes right and anything else can go whinge and moan on an internet forum... lets call it a unique case... and ignore reality or ethics or morals...
To pull Russia back into the Armenia-Azerbaijan drama means turning Moscow’s attention towards the Caucasus so there’s more Turkish freedom of action in other theaters – in the Eastern Mediterranean versus Greece, in Syria, in Libya. Ankara – foolishly – is engaged in simultaneous wars on several fronts, and with virtually no allies.
Russia can focus on more than one thing at a time, to suggest they can't is just hopeful thinking... A turkish invasion of Armenia would be grounds for those Armenian missiles to start targeting Turkish assets and to perhaps start encouraging Kurdish separatism in Turkey...
Technology is only good as the ones operating it you could have the best system in the world operated by morons defeated by the worst system operated by skilled people.
Saudi Arabia is proof enough of that...
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