2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2

PapaDragon wrote:
Rumor has it that president of NK Harutyunyan was killed in an​ airstrike

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1322890328731516929?fbclid=IwAR0160UNGzQ7VOxX8PQCoR-aFFLNz9THjiCLE7MAguyZbGxidwrNbDHpTp0

Turkish propaganda at its finest. Already debunked by Armenians.

https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1323045460534349827

Isos wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:50 tons is very little and I clearly mean weapons, not food or meds.

Depend what weapon. If only atgm or suicide drone that started to be used by SAA in Idlib then 50 tons represent a good amount of them.

If it's ammo for artillery then it's nothing.

NK isn't Syria, do not use Syria has an example for NK..that is stupid to do.

I also said show me Russia is sending NK weapons because they aren't.

Completely different situations.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Isos wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:50 tons is very little and I clearly mean weapons, not food or meds.

Depend what weapon. If only atgm or suicide drone that started to be used by SAA in Idlib then 50 tons represent a good amount of them.

If it's ammo for artillery then it's nothing.

NK isn't Syria, do not use Syria has an example for NK..that is stupid to do.

I also said show me Russia is sending NK weapons because they aren't.

Completely different situations.

There are lots of flights.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russia-flies-in-more-military-hardware-to-armenians-fueling-war-in-karabakh-which-makes-money-for-russians.689465/

Armenia won't hesitate to use long range weapons even if not attacked itself: https://sputniknews.com/world/202009301080618843-armenia-sheds-light-on-chances-of-su-30-and-iskander-deployment-against-azerbaijan/

Tsavo Lion wrote:Armenia won't hesitate to use long range weapons even if not attacked itself: https://sputniknews.com/world/202009301080618843-armenia-sheds-light-on-chances-of-su-30-and-iskander-deployment-against-azerbaijan/

Not sure about Iskander but they lost 2 of their 6 Smerch to Turkish TB2. Smerch range 90 km and can deliver devastating cluster and anti tank munitions. Su-30 would be easy prey for Azerbaijani S-300PMU2 which has 250 km range.

Azerbaijanis taking a page from Turks. Su-25 pounding Armenians with impunity. Armenian air force already lost at least 1 Su-25 to Turkish F-16 stationed in Azerbaijan.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1322975854985662464

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1322982474536882177

Russia finally fielding attack drones after neglecting it for many years. Russians are woefully equipped for modern war which is all about drones. Armenia is finally buying attack drones to counter Azerbaijan's attack drone advantage.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1320682528269881346

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4557408#id1962785

The last sentence at this point in time is the best option, as well as killing more Syrian fighters in Syria to prevent them from going to fight in NK. More Azeri soldiers killed there will create big political problems for Aliev. Once turkey get directly involved & replace him, Russia may take Baku & install its own man there.

ANNA News presents: Armenian volunteers and regulars hunt down Azeri forward recce units.

Lots of old men in the group, reminds one of the medieval forlorn hope units with how risky it is to conduct patrols out in the open.

Speaking of which, I haven't seen much, if any of Armenian subterranean communications. Trenches and bunkers are not enough, they ought to have hundreds of miles of tunnel networks dug throughout connecting their positions at the front to the secure rear bases in Armenia. They had nearly 30 years to do so, and earthworks have never been cheaper. It seems that in training to fight like their big brother Russia the Armenians have neglected to learn how to fight within their context as the weaker of the military powers to the Azeris and leverage the defensive advantages the mountains provide them. Oh, well, only time will tell if they could still implement the lesson the Azeris and Turks are teaching them.

lyle6 wrote:ANNA News presents: Armenian volunteers and regulars hunt down Azeri forward recce units.  

Lots of old men in the group, reminds one of the medieval forlorn hope units with how risky it is to conduct patrols out in the open.

Speaking of which, I haven't seen much, if any of Armenian subterranean communications. Trenches and bunkers are not enough, they ought to have hundreds of miles of tunnel networks dug throughout connecting their positions at the front to the secure rear bases in Armenia. They had nearly 30 years to do so, and earthworks have never been cheaper. It seems that in training to fight like their big brother Russia the Armenians have neglected to learn how to fight within their context as the weaker of the military powers to the Azeris and leverage the defensive advantages the mountains provide them. Oh, well, only time will tell if they could still implement the lesson the Azeris and Turks are teaching them.

I mean if there's anything this war has showed it's how woefully unprepared the Armenians were in literally every way.
They're holding on because storming a mountain fortress is a bitch under any circumstances, but holding on is the best plan they have. Fever dreams of a counter-attack against a much larger Azeri army group are ridiculous.
I think it's clear that they've thinned the ranks of the AN-2 UAVs (I actually really like that use of them), but it seems like they're not doing that well at reducing the amounts of the more modern UAVs due to lack of countermeasures.
Also I have to say, it's quite brutal the amount of vids with losses and corpses from this war, I don't think a lot of people realize what the bloodshed is like. Remember when Putin said a few weeks ago that both sides lost 5k already? Must be almost double that now.

Azerbaijani body count in Karabakh up to 1180

https://m.facebook.com/herbimedia/

Armenians vow to fight on despite Putin is cahoots with his BFFs Erdogan and Aliyev. Watch out Aliyev, thousands of your men will die in mountain.  

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1323011779987935232

Armenians capture Syrian terrorist from Afrin sent by Erdogan to slaughter Christians.

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1323227711414915072

Armenian soldiers killing Ottoman soldiers left right and center    

https://twitter.com/LindseySnell/status/1323208086157463552?s=19

Armenian soldiers battle Ottoman soldiers in mountain

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1323227243510927361

Killing another Ottoman lieutenant colonel in mountain

https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1323258865396469760

1174 Armenian soldiers martyred in battle against Ottoman empire so far

https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1323245427098005504

Holy shit mods. Again with no action?

So what is your guys purpose again? To moderate forums right?

Pl. be patient, they r still sleeping.

Despite illegally using white phosphorous and committing war crime against civilian population, Azerbaijani army unable to advance in Karabakh mountain.

https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1323291981238382598

Azerbaijani army shelling Armenia proper to test Putin response. Putin says "I see nothing".

https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1323289251702886401

https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1323291251630854144

miketheterrible wrote:Holy shit mods. Again with no action?

So what is your guys purpose again? To moderate forums right?

This ^^^

Another clownshow in the making

Why don't they just make ultron the moderator and cut out the middleman while they are at it?

Tsavo Lion wrote:Pl. be patient, they r still sleeping.

Sleeping or hibernating?

It's been days now

Isos wrote:Even if he trolls he shares quite a lot of stuff that keep this thread updated.

His crap is always useless off-topic bullshit and he keeps spamming several consecutive posts with it which clogs up the tread

Isos wrote:Even if he trolls he shares quite a lot of stuff that keep this thread updated.

Don't mind the Ottoman apologists. They are mad because their beloved Azerbaijani army and Syrian terrorists get humiliated by Armenians in mountain.

1190 Azerbaijani soldiers bit the dust in mountain so far

https://m.facebook.com/herbimedia/

another Azerbaijani colonel shot by sniper in mountain

https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1323345826572324865

The Azeris are making the same mistake, as Armenians, in the war. The Armenians captured Azeri towns and created a lot of refugees. A so called buffer zone. That caused more harm than good. The Azeris are now capturing Armenian towns. Creating refugees. Storing trouble for the future.

Even if Azeris capture all of Artsakh, and evict the remaining 70,000 Armenians there. At a high cost to themselves. Can we imagine that Armenia will accept this situation?  Of course not. The chances of that are zero. And can we imagine that Azeris will not retaliate against Armenia?  Again zero chance. And will Russia be able to keep out then?  Again zero chance.

So the less we do know to stop the conflict. The more work left to do tomorrow. Including more loss of life and destruction and intensification. I don't think Russia or Iran can stay out, when Turk troops march into Armenia. Then they will have to intervene IRRESPECTIVE of political situation in Armenia or Azer. So why not intervene now?

The chances of Artsakh surviving attack by combined Turk / Zionist / Azer forces are low, in the long run. Even Armenia, may not survive long, faced with such attack. So seeing the likely course of events, a humanitarian intervention, to stop the fighting, is the best course of action.

https://sciencing.com/prevent-avalanches-4914618.html