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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:18 pm

    People seen the shusha footage?
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:34 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:People seen the shusha footage?

    So what? When Armenians get Chinese made Wing Loong 10 attack drones which are jet powered, have SATCOM, armed with dozens of missiles, they will take Susha back.

    https://www.defenseworld.net/news/28221/China_Unveils_Wing_Loong__10_Attack_Drone

    https://www.uasvision.com/2020/11/04/china-unveils-wing-loong-10-at-nanchang-airshow/

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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:49 pm

    Bless your heart THC.

    Anyways in the real world: https://ria.ru/20201109/karabakh-1583779992.html
    Azeris are on the approach to stepanakert.
    Endspiel is accelerating.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:55 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:Bless your heart THC...

    THC indeed, dude is tripping balls Razz



    Also:

    https://twitter.com/MiddleEastWatc1/status/1325700828175470593

    Right now, Armenians are putting all of their weight on recapturing Shusha city because a Turkish and Russian ceasefire agreement is about to be announced really soon.

    The deal will mandate placing a Turkish and Russian peacekeeping mission in the area.


    The ceasefire deal is conducted by both Russian President and Turkish President, which will require all parties to ceasefire and maintain whatever positions they currently have.
    If Shusha city is kept with Azerbaijan, they will build up a strong presence during the ceasefire.


    According to the draft deal, Armenia will immediately withdraw from five out of seven occupied raions (a type of administrative unit of several post-Soviet states) surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh, once both sides agree to the conditions of the truce.
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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Also:

    https://twitter.com/MiddleEastWatc1/status/1325700828175470593

    Right now, Armenians are putting all of their weight on recapturing Shusha city because a Turkish and Russian ceasefire agreement is about to be announced really soon.

    The deal will mandate placing a Turkish and Russian peacekeeping mission in the area.


    The ceasefire deal is conducted by both Russian President and Turkish President, which will require all parties to ceasefire and maintain whatever positions they currently have.
    If Shusha city is kept with Azerbaijan, they will build up a strong presence during the ceasefire.


    According to the draft deal, Armenia will immediately withdraw from five out of seven occupied raions (a type of administrative unit of several post-Soviet states) surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh, once both sides agree to the conditions of the truce.

    Interesting. I wouldn't be happy with Turkish peacekeepers anywhere in the area, they're a part of the conflict and we have no reason to accept it. Especially since all of their "agreements" in Syria were all bullshit. But at this point ending the bloodshed matters most. Maybe we traded them for some positions in North Syria who knows. Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall that's for sure.
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    Post  Yugo90 Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:08 pm

    Armenians should not trust the turks and azeris. They will slaughter them if they get a chance. They shoud retake what they lost as soon they get the chance. But i dont think they have enough weapons for that.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:10 pm

    Yugo90 wrote:Armenians should not trust the turks and azeris. They will slaughter them if they get a chance. They shoud retake what they lost as soon they get the chance. But i dont think they have enough weapons for that.

    Retake ? The way it's going they would loose even Armenia. They totally lost that war. A russian peacekeeping mission will save what's keft of NK.
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    Post  Yugo90 Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:34 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Yugo90 wrote:Armenians should not trust the turks and azeris. They will slaughter them if they get a chance. They shoud retake what they lost as soon they get the chance. But i dont think they have enough weapons for that.

    Retake ? The way it's going they would loose even Armenia. They totally lost that war. A russian peacekeeping mission will save what's keft of NK.

    If armenians send their regural units to Nk then they maybe have a chance...but they really need to usee all of their resources. Armenian PM will be most responsible for the defeat in NK. Not the russians. But best frend of George soros
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    Post  medo Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:57 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:People seen the shusha footage?

    City is intact. In reality there is no intact building there after weeks of shelling. Azeris made a lot of fake videos and pictures of Shushi.

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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:06 pm

    1380 Azerbaijani soldiers killed in mountain so far

    https://m.facebook.com/herbimedia/
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:09 pm

    Russia, Turkey near a deal for Nagorno-Karabakh
    By Stephen Bryen
    Russia and Turkey have tentatively agreed to a two-stage deal to end the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh, a move that comes as Azerbaijan makes decisive gains on Armenia in the contested enclave. 
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    Post  lyle6 Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:10 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:People seen the shusha footage?
    Barely a handful of dudes in that video, with no heavy equipment. They're not holding anything, merely snuck themselves in like rats are wont to do.

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    I am looking for evidence of this, do you have some? I am suspecting they are a paid propaganda front masquerading as a bellingcat-light operation.
    I almost forgot.
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    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1325541775990206464

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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:32 pm

    IMO azeri are shitting their pants right now.


    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Russian Ministry of Defence confirms a Russian helicopter has crashed on the border between Armenian and Azerbaijan


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    UPDATE: Russian helicopter downed over #Armenia, Russian security source tells Sputnik Armenia


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    Post  zorobabel Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:33 pm

    Confirmed by RIA as well, downed by manpads
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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:35 pm

    Isos wrote:IMO azeri are shitting their pants right now.


    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Russian Ministry of Defence confirms a Russian helicopter has crashed on the border between Armenian and Azerbaijan


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    UPDATE: Russian helicopter downed over #Armenia, Russian security source tells Sputnik Armenia

    Guys don't have another Su-24 turkey moment, nothing will happen. Sure, maybe down the line, maybe economic pressure, maybe beefing up of Armenia proper, but we're not gonna go to war over this as always.
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:36 pm

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    #BREAKING: Russian Ministry of Defence confirms MANPADS fire from the ground brought down their helicopter on the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:38 pm

    Guys don't have another Su-24 turkey moment, nothing will happen. Sure, maybe down the line, maybe economic pressure, maybe beefing up of Armenia proper, but we're not gonna go to war over this as always.

    Depend where it happened. They knew both sides use SAM in NK so if they sent a chopper there it was their fault.
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    Post  zorobabel Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:40 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:
    Guys don't have another Su-24 turkey moment, nothing will happen. Sure, maybe down the line, maybe economic pressure, maybe beefing up of Armenia proper, but we're not gonna go to war over this as always.
    I'm not. Waiting to see what happens.
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    Post  Maximmmm Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:41 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Guys don't have another Su-24 turkey moment, nothing will happen. Sure, maybe down the line, maybe economic pressure, maybe beefing up of Armenia proper, but we're not gonna go to war over this as always.

    Depend where it happened. They knew both sides use SAM in NK so if they sent a chopper there it was their fault.

    It reminds me of the time the Syrians blew our IL-20 out of the sky because they thought they were targeting Israeli F-16's that hid behind it.
    That one got buried quick.


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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:44 pm

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    Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Assembly of the Ulyanovsk region, head of the Communist Party faction Airat Gibatdinov published a video of the Russian military on his Instagram and said that the 31st brigade was heading to NK
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    Post  Isos Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:53 pm


    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: 2 crew members killed, 1 wounded after Russian Mi-24 military helicopter was shot down by surface-to-air missile on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border, Russian Ministry of Defence confirms
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:02 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:
    That one got buried quick.

    And all kinds of things, like S-300 rose like ghosts out of the grave.
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    Post  Azi Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:07 pm

    The helicopter was shot down at the border to Nakichevan...far far away from NK. It was shot down and crashed inside Armenia...this could be seen as a direct aggression from Azeris against Armenia/Russia.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:10 pm

    Mi-24 news picked up in the US.

    Russia's military has thus far been monitoring the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh, warning Azerbaijan not to extend the battle into Armenian sovereign territory. While Moscow has a defense pact with Yerevan, it's thus far sought to not get involved. However this may immediately change things. Russia's Sputnik details further that the Russian gunship had been escorting a convoy which departed from Russia's lone military base on Armenian soil in Gyumri:

    "A Russian Mi-24 (NATO reporting name: Hind) military helicopter has crashed on the territory of Armenia near the village of Yeraskh after it was shot from the ground by unknown forces using a man-portable air-defence system (SAM), Russia’s Defence Ministry has stated. The crash was caused by a loss of control after a missile hit the aircraft, the ministry added.

    The report notes further: "At the time of the time of the attack, the helicopter was escorting a convoy from Russia’s 102nd military base, which is located in Armenia, as it was moving past Yeraskh, near the border with Azerbaijan's Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic."



    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-military-helicopter-shot-down-azerbaijan-forces-over-armenia-2-pilots-killed
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    Post  Hole Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:15 pm

    Someone made a big mistake there.

    Russian Foreign ministry: Russia will take a more active role in the conflict

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