most countries slavishly follow US and EU standards .... as they make the planes they mostly use
there is a chance they will try a stunt like that
Il-96 uses same engines .....
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Gazputin wrote:I was referring to international travel holiday destinations ...
most countries slavishly follow US and EU standards .... as they make the planes they mostly use
there is a chance they will try a stunt like that
Il-96 uses same engines .....
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Gazputin wrote:they are using the fuselage of the An-140 at Aviakor as a basis
L-610 needed a door in front of the wing
and wing above the fuselage so it doesn't intrude in the cabin
next thing they knew .... it was the front end of an An-140 .... that Aviakor used to make
Aviakor are making 4x fuselages for the pilot TVRS-44
Mishustin named it Ladoga apparently
did a post on this a week or so ago
The largest contractor in the creation of the 44-seater aircraft "Ladoga" (TVRS-44), which by order of the Ministry of
Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation is developing the Ural Civil Aviation Plant, was the Samara plant
"Aviakor". This was announced on March 21, at a meeting of the headquarters for the sustainability of the economy in
the regional Government, the general director of the Samara aircraft manufacturing enterprise Alexei Gusev.
According to him, the contract with UWCA was signed in mid-March.
"We have to make four fuselages for testing andcertification of the new aircraft. We retained all competencies after we froze the Program for the An-140, now we will
begin to actively produce new equipment, "the press service of the Government of the Samara Region quotes the
words of the general director of Aviakor.
yeah TVRS-44 is a bit of a Frankenstein .... landing gear from another Antonov
engines detuned version as on Il-114 ..... why not ... if they fit .... and are tried and tested
guess that's the beauty of having a big industrial base .... lots of parts bins around
but yeah a slightly shortened An-140 with a T-tail .... bingo
I get what you are saying
a hell of a lot of balls in the air ...
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but I suspect the west will then try to introduce new "noise standards" that just happen to exclude the PS-90
TVRS-44 (L-610), 44 seater passenger airliner, UWCA (Ekaterinburg), 2025
Russia needs something in the 30-45 seat class, as the TVRS-44 plans will certainly fall through now
An option would be the revival of An-140 production at Aviakor (Samara
GarryB wrote:TVRS-44 (L-610), 44 seater passenger airliner, UWCA (Ekaterinburg), 2025
Is the TVRS-44 actually a Let-610, or is it a Let-610 size and type equivalent?
Russia needs something in the 30-45 seat class, as the TVRS-44 plans will certainly fall through now
Most of the articles I have read suggest the TVRS-44 is based on the Let-610 rather than just being an actual Let-610 they are licence producing.... which suggests an all Russian aircraft.
Mention of new engines being developed suggests it will be getting new engines soon and is intended to replace An-24 and An-26 aircraft as well as Yak-40s currently in service in Russia.
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They planned to take the Czech L-610 as the basis of the new aircraft, refine it and put it into mass production at the Ural Civil Aviation Plant, where light twin-engine aircraft L-410 are already being built.
The cost of the modified aircraft was estimated at about $14 million. UZGA believes that the price of a production L-610 aircraft would not exceed $12 million. However, regional airlines consider the price too high and are not ready to take aircraft over $10 million. In 2019, Kommersant wrote , that for the profitability of operating this aircraft, additional state support is needed, for example, the trade-in program, under which it would be possible to obtain new aircraft by handing over the An-24, An-26 and Yak-40 for disposal. The finalization of the Czech project was estimated at 20-25 billion rubles.
On September 2, 2020, the Ministry of Industry and Trade approved the tactical and technical assignment for the development work "Development of a turboprop regional aircraft" (code "TVRS"), which summarized the requirements for an aircraft of local lines for 44-48 passengers. UZGA considered the L-610 as a TVRS prototype, but the Czech machine is not the basic design. As early as September 3, 2019, the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, stated that this was not about launching the production of this aircraft, but about creating a new turboprop based on the scientific and technical backlog of the L-610 program.
According to the chief designer of the TVRS project, Sergei Merenkov, in fact, a complete redesign of the prototype turned out, in fact, the creation of a new aircraft. “The equipment, materials and fasteners are 100% new and completely domestic. The fuselage is new, including the entire theory, cross-section, nose and tail sections, cockpit canopy contours, the entire structural power scheme, the entire layout and attachment of the wing and plumage, ”said Sergey Merenkov in an interview with AviaPort in April this year. .
The empennage, wing fairings with fuselage, fairings of the main landing gear, structural power scheme of the wing and its execution from long milled panels have been completely redesigned. The flaps, ailerons, spoilers and systems in the wing have also been completely re-arranged. A new feature of the design of the wing and plumage is the installation of heating elements of the electrothermal anti-icing system.
To meet the requirements of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, it was necessary to lengthen the fuselage by more than a meter, use the front location of the entrance door instead of the rear one, and increase the width of the fuselage along the floor by about 10 percent (from 2020 mm to 2250 mm). The capacities of the wing fuel tanks were almost doubled, the maximum takeoff weight increased from 15100 kg to 17000 kg (~ +20%). The latter required the use of new, more powerful engines and a new reinforced chassis. Common with the prototype remained the angle of the wing and the angle of the transverse V.
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flamming_python wrote:Russia needs something in the 30-45 seat class, as the TVRS-44 plans will certainly fall through now
At the moment An-24s/An-26s carry out this role but they won't last forever
An option would be the revival of An-140 production at Aviakor (Samara)
anyway the slide shows where all the "bits" of Frankenstein come from
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THE COMPANY AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES – LET KUNOVICE PASSES INTO THE HANDS OF THE CZECH GROUP OMNIPOL
Date 27.4.2022
The largest manufacturer of civilian transport aircraft in the Czech Republic, Aircraft Industries, is returning to Czech ownership after 14 years. On April 21st, 2022, the Russian owner and the OMNIPOL Group agreed to sell 100% of Aircraft Industries shares to the Czech company OMPO Holding.
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and that is the major reason Russia was a bit slow with UAVs and even cruise missiles ....
(why if you want to go for a joyride in a jet trainer it will be a L-39 Albatross made in Czech as it was the Soviet standard jet trainer)
also explains Rus weakness in light helicopters too ..... they were made in Poland
everything happening in Ukraine is the US .... 150%
( they did keep all the fast jet stuff inside Russia though .... fighters, bombers and their engines .... why they are in good shape)
UWCA is in effect replacing everything that done in Soviet "Czech and Poland" .... in civil stuff
doing a great job too .... it has to be said
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I think 3D printing will make life much easier for Rus industry in general - a gamechanger
I would be pouring Rubles into it ...
Tashkent factory used to be very big in SU, but I'm not sure if this is better than building more capacity in Russia.
It is questionable how many qualified workforce is still around after 30+ years.
Might sway them towards better relations with Russia... and will bring out the pro west 5th column who will try to sabotage good relations with Russia too.Also, new Uzbekistan gov is pretty pro Western. Better build new capacity in Russia and try to bring over whatever workforce is left in Uzbekistan.
Same thing should be happening with Ukraine, especially MotorSich
As for Motor Sich, I hope they will transfer the staff who want to be transferred to facilities in Russia, and dump what's leftover including IP to the Chinese. Good riddance.
There are some good people there. But all their projects have been nothing but trouble. Not that Klimov has been perfect either b