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Re: Western propaganda

kvs Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:19 am

GarryB wrote:But you can bet your ass his revisions become cannon and are not changed at all...

Western morality = the ends justify the means

And those ends are hardly good to start with.

We saw this bloody hypocrisy with new world aboriginal treatment. The popes declared non-Catholics to have
no souls. So it was OK to turn them into slaves and cut off their limbs for daring to resist (the Belgians lived
up to this much later in the Congo so it ain't no ancient history). The key is that westerners have that fig
leaf of righteousness on their filthy genitalia. The Pope approved...

So in the near future, western school children will be taught that the USSR invaded Europe during WWII. That
Hitler's armies were engaged in defensive action. We already have the "common wisdom" that the USSR "invaded
Poland in 1920" when Poland grabbed western Ukraine and Belorus. Revisionism has been chewing away at reality as
accepted in the west from day one. The west is holy and can do no wrong. Even if parts of the west are stitched
on later, they get retroactively laundered.

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kvs Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:56 pm

NATzO is indeed NATzO. It tries to hide it and project Nazism onto others, but the facts show otherwise.
It turns out that German state organs have links to neo-Nazis. Not surprising considering that the whole
Cold War from day was one big Nazi and fascist succoring effort to "defeat communism". So we had
Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, etc. The German Nazis were laundered at the end of WWII and
were not purged so their fight lives on.

Anyway, the above video covers the case of a German "journalist", Benjamin Bidder, for DW who was spazzing
about Russian nationalism in 2012 and singled out Navalny as evidence, who now sings Navalny's praises. So
which is it, you fcuks, is it big bad Russian nationalism, or is it democracy and pro-western orientation?

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magnumcromagnon Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:29 am

We don't engage in annexation, we offer protection. Rolling Eyes

US think tank "analyst" suggests seizing the territory of neutral Asian countries in a hypothetical conflict with China, and basing US military assets there without the consent of said neutral country.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyMao/status/1367914657634152452

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kvs Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:30 am

Relevant for all the "annexation" drivel in regards to Crimea. Apparently ethnic Russians annexed by Banderites in 1991 have no
rights and it is "all a big Russian annexation", but when the USA tries to grab land that has precisely zero connection to it today
or historically, then that's the work of the angels.

I think that this policy piece should be invoked every time some NATzO yap starts barking at Russia.

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GarryB Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:52 am

Just expand the bakery that makes cookies and everything will be OK.

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Hole Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:23 am

"For short durations" - Like the 70 years a lot of the pacific islands are living under occupation.

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Youtube Propaganda

calripson Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:40 am

I see more and more Youtube sponsored videos of young Russians bad mouthing Russia. I don't know if these people are "sponsored", hope to be "sponsored", or are just useful idiots that the Youtube algorithm selects. Here is a case in point, a young woman claiming that Russia is losing 800,000 people a year because all the young people want to move abroad. She fails to recognize the 230,000 premature deaths due to Covid in 2020, the donut hole effect of 1990s demographics, and the social isolation leading to less sex and subsequently less babies. Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKlHKH2iFo4&t=33s

As an aside, Poland reported the lowest birthrate in decades in 2020 with a population decline of 115,000. Maybe Putin is scaring the Poles out of Poland too.

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kvs Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:53 am

It is a concerted propaganda effort. I saw one video which was trying to claim that food in supermarkets in Russia is horrible and
assorted other tropes. I was in Russia about 15 years ago and the food in supermarkets was no worse than the what I can buy
in Canada. In fact, I could get rather good cheese for much cheaper (even accounting for relative price differences).

The whole Russians are discontented and here is "proof" line is important for NATzO propaganda. Nobody cares anymore about
what NATzO spouts. They desperately need "Russians" to cry on social media.

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GarryB Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:21 am

Young people earning easy money... not a shock.

Will bite them in the ass in ten years time when the US dollar has collapsed and they want a nice government job in Russia but someone notices their Youtube history...

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Mistake

calripson Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:31 pm

GarryB wrote:Young people earning easy money... not a shock.

Will bite them in the ass in ten years time when the US dollar has collapsed and they want a nice government job in Russia but someone notices their Youtube history...

It should bite them in the ass right now.

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PhSt Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:53 pm

GarryB wrote:Young people earning easy money... not a shock.

Will bite them in the ass in ten years time when the US dollar has collapsed and they want a nice government job in Russia but someone notices their Youtube history...

This is actually a good idea. Russia should make it a common practice for its institutions and companies to research about a person's internet footprint before deciding to hire them or not. It should be made mandatory for state institutions to accept only Patriotic candidates to fill in job positions.

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miketheterrible Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:25 pm

calripson wrote:I see more and more Youtube sponsored videos of young Russians bad mouthing Russia. I don't know if these people are "sponsored", hope to be "sponsored", or are just useful idiots that the Youtube algorithm selects. Here is a case in point, a young woman claiming that Russia is losing 800,000 people a year because all the young people want to move abroad. She fails to recognize the 230,000 premature deaths due to Covid in 2020, the donut hole effect of 1990s demographics, and the social isolation leading to less sex and subsequently less babies. Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKlHKH2iFo4&t=33s

As an aside, Poland reported the lowest birthrate in decades in 2020 with a population decline of 115,000. Maybe Putin is scaring the Poles out of Poland too.

How does it go from wanting to move abroad to 800,000 people a year? None of that makes sense nor do the numbers.

Does she think average person is stupid?

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franco Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:46 pm

Sorry but the average person is stupid and follow like sheep...

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Interesting

calripson Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:44 pm

In all cases of these youtube videos, the presenter is a fluent English speaker who normally studied or lived in the West. The topics are often centered around typically politicized themes in the West - "would you date a black guy"; "what do you think of LGBT rights in Russia" ect.

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magnumcromagnon Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:54 pm

GarryB wrote:Just expand the bakery that makes cookies and everything will be OK.

We're already seeing the precedence in Northern Syria, the so called "International Community" has (with no surprise) nothing to say about it. Rolling Eyes

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miketheterrible Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:22 pm

calripson wrote:In all cases of these youtube videos, the presenter is a fluent English speaker who normally studied or lived in the West. The topics are often centered around typically politicized themes in the West - "would you date a black guy"; "what do you think of LGBT rights in Russia" ect.

So in other words, these are the paid YouTubers being created by collab between MI6, BBC, Reuters and the like exposed by Greyzone.

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magnumcromagnon Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:45 pm

Eliot Higgins attacks me for giving an interview to CGTN.

So here's a document from the British intelligence contractor Zinc Network claiming his Bellingcat was dispatched by the UK Foreign Office to meddle in North Macedonia's 2019 election on behalf of the pro-NATO candidate.

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1368295328563269637

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kvs Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:48 am

calripson wrote:In all cases of these youtube videos, the presenter is a fluent English speaker who normally studied or lived in the West. The topics are often centered around typically politicized themes in the West - "would you date a black guy"; "what do you think of LGBT rights in Russia" ect.

This rubbish is designed to keep NATzO citizens on the plantation. Russians would suss out such obvious non-Russian aspects and the use of English is
a dead give away.

Arrogant western imbeciles dismiss the Russian people out of hand. Mere savages living in mud huts that can be rolled over on a whim. Exactly the
hubris brain rot exhibited by Napoleon and Hitler. Except any attempt to pull a final solution on Russia this time around will result in the final solution
of the west itself. There will be no General Winter excuses from the glassed quarters.

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magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:55 am

Western propaganda - Page 24 OZbYq5Zy?format=jpg&name=small

When the U.S. Used 'Fake News' to Sell Americans on World War I

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PhSt Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:20 pm

Russia sues Google, Facebook, Twitter for not deleting protest content: report

MOSCOW -- Russian authorities are suing five social media platforms for allegedly failing to delete posts urging children to take part in illegal protests, the Interfax news agency cited a Moscow court as saying on Tuesday.

Twitter, Google, Facebook each have three cases against them, with each violation punishable by a fine of up to 4 million roubles (around US$54,000), and cases have also been filed against Tiktok and Telegram, the report said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/russia-sues-google-facebook-twitter-for-not-deleting-protest-content-report-1.5339374

I understand the importance of these measures, penalizing these NATzO propaganda outlets is a step in the right direction, but $54,000 is just peanuts for these scums. Fines for violations like this need to have a minimum of at least $20 million and up, it should be at an amount that is deemed costly, otherwise, they will be able to afford to continue these violations in perpetuity.

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magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:15 pm

PhSt wrote:

Russia sues Google, Facebook, Twitter for not deleting protest content: report

MOSCOW -- Russian authorities are suing five social media platforms for allegedly failing to delete posts urging children to take part in illegal protests, the Interfax news agency cited a Moscow court as saying on Tuesday.

Twitter, Google, Facebook each have three cases against them, with each violation punishable by a fine of up to 4 million roubles (around US$54,000), and cases have also been filed against Tiktok and Telegram, the report said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/russia-sues-google-facebook-twitter-for-not-deleting-protest-content-report-1.5339374

I understand the importance of these measures, penalizing these NATzO propaganda outlets is a step in the right direction, but $54,000 is just peanuts for these scums. Fines for violations like this need to have a minimum of at least $20 million and up, it should be at an amount that is deemed costly, otherwise, they will be able to afford to continue these violations in perpetuity.

Your right they should be fining them $50 million USD a pop, but from here they can at least gauge resistance. If they resist than they can justifiably jack up the cost by an exorbitant sum. It's just like in English Common Law courts (US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) in which if you plead no contest, you take a plea deal, or if you plead guilty to a crime will lead you to a lesser punishment than if you plead not guilty and found guilty later on. This gives Russian courts plausible deniability (not that it would matter in Western media).

If they refuse to pay up than they can justifiable penalize them by suspending their ability to operate in Russia, and they can tack on compounding interest on the fines due.

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kvs Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:46 pm

Yet again a journalist engages in anti-Russian propaganda.

Russia sues Google, Facebook, Twitter for not deleting protest content: report

Sounds like Russia demanding freedom-loving western social media remove videos of the protests. A deliberately misleading
hate headline. Agitation propaganda is not "protest content". Orwellian drivel.

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Another Fine Example of Youtube Sponsored Agitprop

calripson Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:30 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY_iN_tMtwE

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kvs Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:48 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pure-international-cybercrime-putin-warns-against-us-planned-retaliation-solarwinds

Biden used the New York Times to announce "cyber retaliation" on Russia over the ludicrous claim that that Russia hacked SolarWinds.

However, it's since been confirmed that SolarWinds has largely faulted its own severe security lapses, including the fact that an update server's password was literally "solarwinds123" - which had been leaked by an employee online beginning years ago, according to prior Congressional testimony.

Propaganda reflects the IQ of its consumers.

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magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:08 pm

Western Media: There's no Neo-Nazi's in the Ukrainian military....that's Russian propaganda!!!1!!1!

Ukrainian Military:

https://twitter.com/I30mki/status/1369905685236908037

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