Would be interesting to see APS equipped specialized tank battalion lead the charge into a fortified defensive emplacement , rendering the atgm and javelins of the enemy totally useless, and then followed up by a more massive regularize tank battalion to mop up what is left.
The problem is that in this scenario the Donbass and Lugansk regions are not likely to be driving forward with tanks at all... I suspect it will be more a case of Kiev forces moving forward trying to make progress under the cover of an artillery barrage... but then I suspect the rebels will lure their armour into traps and deal with their artillery too... they have seen the effect of drones and should be capable of developing and using their own effectively against Kievs forces.
On a battlefield with enemy tanks I would thing the rebels are smart enough to use IR camouflage from above and IR decoys on the ground so those Javelins are only useful in manual direct fire mode, where their lack of armour penetration and very low speed will be a real problem for them.
It's gonna be piecemeal to U.S/"West" perceived strategic advantage or nothing. Obviously also looking for Russia to mirror (or worse) whatever they accept.
Putin didn't fall from the sky in the last shower of rain... he never would have expected the US to agree to any let alone all of what he said... that is not important.
What is important is that Putin has made clear his red lines, so if they are crossed he can react rather more quickly than he normally does because in this case western shitfuckery would be random out of the blue surprises to normal rational people.
Biden can ignore the land mines as he pleases, but the consequences will be quite real.
CAATSA has worked great on the small players. Heavy Russian hardware export deals to new players can be counted by hand, if there is anything to count at all.
Yes, in this case their blackmail is working well.
They don't have the beans to be so tough on India, but against Indonesia they are real heros.
Reality hits different, I know.
We always knew the west fights dirty... the whole five eyes programme is not directed at the Russians, it is directed at Americas allies because knowledge is power and if you know which politician or diplomat is dirty then you can use that to get what you want.
Right now the board is tipped in the wests favour, but the US is broken and running at that cliff edge thinking it can fly because it believes its own BS propaganda... just further evidence that Russia and China should avoid the EU and US as much as they can... trade yet, but don't let them infect you with hate and evil.
If Russia supplies Pantsirs to the Donbass, which it will not be afraid to do, then these
toy planes will not even reach their targets. But Russia does not even have to supply Pantsirs. The Donbass defenders have
shown they have effective EW ability against Ukrian drone operations. There is no reason to think that Ukria will be able to
defeat this and Russia will make sure that no such scenario comes into reality.
Early detection is the key, so once you find it... the cheapest way to kill it would probably be a suicide drone... fly up and either shoot it down or ram it with a warhead in your nose.
I get the impression that Putin is walking his words back. But then what was the point in saying them in the first place?
I think it is perfectly reasonable to tell your enemies what you think is acceptable and what is not so they know when they do something that they will get a reaction from Russia over this and can't claim to have not known it was something Russia thinks is important.
I don't think he ever believed they would say... yup, fine... those are your red lines and we will keep away from them to keep you happy.
He is just saying, you **** with us and it should not be a surprise when we **** back.
They even fucked france over those submarines
Even New Zealand was told we were not allowed to sell our A-4 Skyhawks to just anyone and had to get US approval... fucking Skyhawks!!!
But he sort of indicated it would not matter anyway as the paper that washington signs is not worth the ink it's written with.
Exactly... after a decade and a half he is clearly finished chasing western approval and realises what cheating lying scum they are.
Putin is a religious man so of course he recognises evil.
you can hear his voice crackling, and the appeasing rhetoric of 'look all we did for you! US govt people stationed in our nuclear facilities!'
Even supply routes to support US and HATO operations in Afghanistan for goodness sake...
As if Putin was blinking 3 times for Washington to take the hint and offer him a ladder to climb down the tree he scrambled on to.
He knows they would pull it away as soon as he committed to stepping on.
No doubt Kiev is overjoicing and this will embolden them to now go ahead with their offensive.
The rebels will rip them a new one... I hope they do, but they don't have the balls.
Perhaps at this stage, he should move aside for someone else.
People keep saying that but never mention anyone who could take his place.
You make them beg you for the allegiance....only then, and only when they bend the knee should you pursue it.
See, that is your problem... you think this is a war... if Germany does not want cheap energy, Russia does not have to bust a gut to force them. Germany can pay more for their gas.... Gazprom is fine with that.
But this time round if the Orcs steal gas Russia will just consider it delivered and the intended customer for that gas can work it out with the thieves.
Again the pathetic shill inviting herself to decide on energy matters, screwing Germany for the sake of the US agenda and making Russia laugh even harder... this level of delusion is hardly believable
And when their industry stops working because gas is too expensive then her government will likely collapse... or maybe Germans are such pussies now they will happily freeze for Ukraine and the US... quite pathetic really...
It is funny that Hungary will accept Sputnik V and refuse HATO troops on its land to escalate things... almost as if they have a spine... not to be found anywhere else in the EU.
I actually want to see this so I can laugh, at how fast the EU drove down the European economy
With all the BS coming from Atlasclub it is amusing that they don't understand the double edged nature of power... the US dollar being the international currency gave it power and the US power, but using it as a weapon has reduced its use and therefore reduced its power.
Russia has been very careful in the past not to use energy as a weapon because it earns money and using it as a weapon would force its customers to find alternatives.
Ironically it is the west using its customer status as a weapon, but that ignores that there are other customers on the planet that will happily buy Russian gas if they don't want it and the cost to them of not getting cheap Russian gas will effect their economies in a rather negative way.
Ironically EU use of gas as a weapon has led to massive increases in price for the gas they want to buy so Russia is benefiting enormously from their abuse, but of course the end result will be that Russian gas... any gas will be too expensive and Europe will need to spend billions or trillions finding an affordable reliable alternative, which wont help Russia in the short term but of course they will find other customers happy to get it at three times the price that the EU would have been paying.
Wrap it up in any pretty paper you like but the EU just stabbed itself... which is no real surprise because the other part of the game is to get them to stab themselves again regarding China so the silk road transport links from the EU to Asia are disrupted or damaged... it is all the USs plan to keep the EU and Russia and the EU and China as enemies... because as partners there is no options for the US... no benefits for the US.
Atlasclub can claim Russia is stupid and the EU is a winner... but it is the US that is screwing the EU... which is hilarious... I think it is great.
Russia will be fine... they will find customers for their gas reserves, but this bullshit stops Russia and the EU becoming mates... which might be good for the EU but will be catastrophic for Russia... how much transgender BS will they take?
Honestly putin played this perfectly gradually making the russian economy independent and bulletproof and building a savings account for the future
It is like you are finding out the local trailer trash was going to marry your son but her parents, who are devil worshipping child molesting serial rapists and serial murderers don't like his blue eyes and are sabotaging the relationship...
It wasn't the commies who spent the last 25 years talking about 'our Western partners' even when they're doing some not very nice things, and who has been trying to convince in utter futility, all these countries to drop sanctions, even though he knows it will never happen. The commies had sanctions on them as well. Did it bother them, did they complain about it?
Russia gave them every chance in the book, and allowed different political parties in each of these countries to have a go and all of them rejected Russia... which means now when Russia rejects the west there is no way a shit like Navalny can say they want to be friends and we just wouldn't let them in... the only way they wanted in is through the door with an ax like Jack Nicholson in the Shining...
Russia should take a page out of Iran's book.
Iran has no cards to play.
Russia needs to play with cards open and on the table because they are not playing winner takes all... they are playing leave me be or I will **** you and everything you have... all the while knowing you will take me with you.
Ukraine will ignore it cause EU is even weaker entity than Ukraine.
This is huge... as far as the west was concerned Frankensteins monster was their fair haired boy who could do no wrong... now they have started to tell it to behave... almost as if their might be consequences....
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