The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Clearly, if the US wants to give stuff that's up to them, but us? No way.

Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
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BREAKING: Germany declines Ukraine's request for defensive weapons

Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
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#Germany Flag of Germany has shut the door on defensive weapons supply to #Ukraine Flag of Ukraine

Germany's aid to Ukraine in the war against #Russia Flag of Russia has been confined to the health sphere:

1) Construction of a military hospital

2) Treatment of wounded servicemen

The DPR and LPR is the appropriate party to answer Kiev.

Russia should not be involved in that mess, except to counter NATO weapons deployments which already occurs with S500, and the deployment of zircon, iskander, kinzhal, kalibr, and 8th CAA and 20th CAA.

Protecting Belarus is the 1st GTA, and the 98th airborne.

Russia needs to focus not on Europe and its gas hangover, but on the development of the MS-21, SSJ 100, ship building is growing astonishingly fast, the micro electronics sector also is developing nicely (if only washington will ban export of smart phones this is needed), and SWIFT ban would also be nice , to develop more payment processors and merchant processors than can work with MIR and Union Pay.

I think wildberries would grow very big from this ban, and could expand into an AWS type service,  and paypal as well for Russia, would be really awesome and great. SWIFT and smart phone bans go hand in hand, Russian Tech sector would boom.

I really hope they ban smartphone,  and SWIFT.  

Food export is doing very well, the west is a very friendly place!

As for Ukraine , it's very simple , BM30 is all that needs to be on that border. 

As for Nord Stream 2, well I guess we will see AFD after the traffic light coalition destroy Germany

Crazy, just crazy

Guy Elster
@guyelster
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#BREAKING UK Defence minister says given increasingly threatening behavior from #Russia, UK is supplying #Ukraine with light, anti-armor defensive weapon systems. He also invites his Russian counterpart for talks in London

Tadeusz Giczan

@TadeuszGiczan

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Russian troops are already arriving in Belarus, says secretary of its Security Council Alexander Volfovich. Trains with Russian military vehicles have been spotted all over the country. Here is one in Kolodishchi, just outside Minsk. Video by

@MotolkoHelp

from earlier today.


So those joint exercises between Belarus and Russia are about to begin, we could see false flag, by NATO in Ukraine, then if Ukraine attacks DPR LPR, russia will clobber them.

Self fulfilling prophecy thanks to the west


Edit: just want to add those forces entering belarus are from the eastern military district,  BTG from Amir regions and naval brigade from 155th naval infantry. That's the first time they are in Belarus 


They have also activated the BARS reservist system

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12403883@egNews

Nona 120mm mortars, t80bv, mtlb, bmp3 going to belarus

If you consider the distance, the deployment of BTG from 155th naval Bge makes the 98th airlift to Almaty look trivial in comparison.

We are talking about Vladivostok to Gomel?

almost 10,000km by rail

Ukraine is facing a very grim reality at this point

Gerjon | חריון
@Gerjon_
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Shortly after a report of "British transport aircraft" moving weaponry into Ukraine, today's second Royal Air Force C-17A Globemaster III landed in Flag of UkraineKiev, Ukraine.

That should be the 3rd C-17A in 2 days, unless I missed any:

Flag of United States10-0215 #RCH1815
Flag of United KingdomZZ178 #RRR6887
Flag of United KingdomZZ173 #RRR6888

SeigSoloyvov wrote:You feel that way they do not, which is a common theme for people on this forum, they think their feelings are represented by the people. You can type 13 pages of why you feel that way but that's not represented by the masses.

They are not neutral and they have voted for the guy who has favored aligning with the west double for going towards the EU.

Has for facts various polls done within Ukraine well as demonstrations by the people in it.

West and Central pro NATO and EU

Eastern Sides on russia boarder, pro russia and the eastern sides kinda between those two areas are on the fence bu total pop wise there is many more in favor vs against

Not sure if this was meant for my post of not as it was posted right after my post. But it wasn't my views but views of Ukrainians and Ukrainian friends.

I agree with u that many Ukrainians voted towards a pro EU president, but remember Ukraine is highly corrupt one of the worst countries I have been to and I have been to many corrupt countries. This goes for any polls taken in Ukraine. Everyone in Ukraine will tell you the same.

What I don't agree with is west and central is pro EU and pro NATO. For a start both are completely different things to join, you will find almost most of the west and central want EU membership for job opportunities and many think the EU as some utopia. NATO very few want, why? Because majority want a peaceful country and don't want conflict with Russia knowing fine well membership of NATO will cause grief. Many Ukrainians are tired of their country being in conflict and conscription. They want jobs not just any old job a job in the EU and many want to build homes in Ukraine by earning good wages in EU, many Ukrainians love their country and culture, and don't want it to change (apart from the corruption). Just like the polish when they came to UK they sent their money home to build homes etc they enjoyed the higher wages in the UK but didn't want to buy homes their but build homes in their own country, the Romanians did the same. Why because they love their country and culture.

Many still go to Russia for work as do other ex Soviet countries. And part from the die hards or knuckle draggers, most regret 2014 and how it ended up. Nobody wanted turmoil on that level and nobody wanted the Ukrainian and Russian issues they face since then. But they also realise that it's almost too late to reverse it. And if they did reverse the issues it would jeopardise their EU membership. And that's something that they are now willing to strive for even if it means a major fallout with Russia, they are at a point of no return. Aand as my Ukrainian friends have said they are looking at falling out with Belarus as well over this. Some of my Ukrainian friends are worried that if it all goes wrong and Russia invaded that it will be the normal person on the street that will suffer while the hierarchy flee to Poland (their words not mine). Another friend has a son who is currently serving his conscription he has 3 months left and he hopes no conflict will erupt while his son is in service, he told me that when his son finishes he wants to send him out of the country to avoid being called up if conflict starts. Let me hope for him this happens.

Ukrainians thought that if any potential conflict between Russian and Ukraine that NATO would deploy vast amount of troops, armour, artillery, aircraft and ships to Ukrainian territory. But they are now seeing that's not going to happen many Ukrainians feel somewhat worried, and let down.

Those deployments to Belarus will not be used to invade Ukraine. This is not even plausible. Is Russia "hiding" them in Belorus?
That would have to be some sort of stupid joke. If these forces are going to be used, then it is to deter a NATzO military incursion
into Ukraine and/or Belorus.

NATzO is run by lunatics so their recent announcement that they will not use military force to save the Khuyiv regime could be a bluff.
I have been hearing and reading for the last 20 years how NATzO can fight a conventional war against Russia. This circle jerk echo
chamber has clearly brainwashed NATzO deciders. Russia is making sure that there are no surprises from NATzO.

In 2010 according to opinion polls conducted by western companies in Ukraine only 40% supported NATzO membership.
I suppose this number could have gone up, but it is not 90% today. The clown in Kiev got elected because he promised
to normalize relations with Russia. That he lied does not mean that the electorate now wants war on Russia. It means
that the clown and his NATzO backers have no legitimacy.

Russia and the US are really pulling off some stunt here with the Ukraine. Good lord.

In between Russia pulling masses of forces onto the border, while the US hysteria about an imminent Russian invasion reaching fever pitch, Ukrainian officials themselves saying that they see no threat of an imminent Russian invasion, while Poroshenko flies in from Warsaw to Kiev and makes an absolute mockery out of Zelensky and the Ukrainian state apparatus who want to arrest him but can't,

And now Ukrainian tanks swapping the Ukrainian flag for the UPA flag



After selling and looting everything in the country, it only makes sense that the country itself must be up for sale.

The US and Russia have decided to resolve their security disagreements under the table.

I really am not optimistic about Russia receiving such a 'prize' though. All Russia needed from the Ukraine was for it not to join NATO.

ALAMO wrote:They have wet dreams about Russian invading them because that would resolve all the miseries they have created, turning a normal country into a shithole.
Invade&conquer us, brother Moskals, please please please!

I really really really

Really really really

Really hope we don't

It would be the end of Russia. Again we'll have to feed them with new industries, development, gas subsidies, etc... to buy loyalty. They'll always have their eye to Europe however. Let them go to Europe.

But with the Putin-Lukashenko idea of a 'union state', unfortunately I'm not so confident in the wisdom of our leadership.

Rob Lee
@RALee85
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The US and EU are reportedly no longer considering blocking Russia from SWIFT if they escalate in Ukraine. 598/

Rob Lee
@RALee85
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Russia has reportedly been sending diplomats and their families home from their embassy and consulates in Ukraine. 590/