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The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Arkanghelsk

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Post n°751

Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Arkanghelsk Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:25 pm

So China announces major military conflict over Taiwan,

China has Russias back, they covering each others rears, that's why Eastern military district was brought to belarus,

China and Russia are unleashed in prospective theaters of war, China can handle the pacific, Russia europe

And the little detail... the iran deal is looking dark, negotiators returned to capitals hours ago,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/iran-nuclear-talks-enter-final-stage/amp/

Talks to restore the Iran nuclear deal are entering their “final stage,” officials say, as negotiators head back to their capitals to receive political guidance on what moves to take in the coming days.

US must delete NATO, get out of Taiwan and lift Iranian sanctions

The glove has been thrown down

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/1/27/china-warns-us-over-ukraine-interference-in-winter-olympics

China warns US over Russia’s ‘legitimate security concerns’
China’s foreign minister takes aim at Washington as tensions with Russia mount over Ukraine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/all-eyes-russia-china-warns-us-full-blown-military-conflict-over-taiwan-1674001%3famp=1

China warns US of military conflict over Taiwan

Qin Gang, China's ambassador to the U.S. said in an interview with NPR on Thursday that the U.S. might face "military conflict" with China over the future of Taiwan.

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Backman

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Backman Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:52 pm

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-says-ukraine-russia-crisis-is-a-european-problem-2022-1?amp

Trump says Ukraine-Russia crisis is a 'European problem' and Russia 'owns Germany' because of Nord Stream 2 pipeline

Biden is crashing and burning, Trump surging in polls, The Ukrainian gambit failed , once Trump gets in

That's it for NATO, Ukraine, and EU, Putin will have all demands met, it's just time

Trump is a f*cking dunce who would be more hawkish on Russia than Biden is. Trump would not have signed the new start. He would be itching to sell more weapons to Ukraine than biden is.

There is literally nothing constructive about trump in Russia relations.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

JohninMK Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:43 am

Divisions that belong to Russia’s Western military district are returning to their bases after “concluding routine combat readiness tests” near Ukrainian border, Russian district commander Alexander Zhuravlyov told Russian news agency Interfax on Jan. 29.

Zhuravlyov said that forces under his command “met all of their objectives” and will continue training on proving grounds.

“We have a whole range of tasks ahead, including joint tactical exercises with air force and anti-air defenses,” he said.

According to him, engineering, communication and biochemical hazard brigades are returning to their bases, along with air force detachments that participated in the “exercises” next to Ukraine’s border.

The district’s troops will fully restock and resupply.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/moscow-reported-to-have-pulled-some-troops-away-from-ukraine-50212429.html

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

ATLASCUB Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:06 am

Belarussian rail grid hit with a cyberattack...

The war at the fringes already started.

There better be some payback.... otherwise what's to deter?

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Post n°755

Same Could Be Said of the US Army

calripson Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:19 am

ALAMO wrote:The whole Russian army - I mean the land forces - are about 300k.
How you are going to mass 0.5mln with no mobilization?
It is staged bullshit from A to Z.
Check the map.
3 out of 11 Russian armies were stationed there since ever.
So where should they be?!?

Fort Hood is less than 300 miles from Mexico and has about 50,000 US military personnel. Other military bases on the Mexican border easily bring the total to over 100,000. Is the US about to invade Mexico?

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

TMA1 Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:15 am

Backman wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-says-ukraine-russia-crisis-is-a-european-problem-2022-1?amp

Trump says Ukraine-Russia crisis is a 'European problem' and Russia 'owns Germany' because of Nord Stream 2 pipeline

Biden is crashing and burning, Trump surging in polls, The Ukrainian gambit failed , once Trump gets in

That's it for NATO, Ukraine, and EU, Putin will have all demands met, it's just time

Trump is a f*cking dunce who would be more hawkish on Russia than Biden is. Trump would not have signed the new start. He would be itching to sell more weapons to Ukraine than biden is.

There is literally nothing constructive about trump in Russia relations.

Trump was a typical old boomer, but the difference was most of his supporters. The left never understood our support for him, frankly they never even wanted to try. Note that Trump's popularity is decaying fast. We did not support him out of worship. We supported him because he was an eminent sh**poster that the elites hated and as long as those we loathed most hated Trump, we supported Trump. Trump would have been more hawkish except that us supporters made it clear any war would destroy him. This effect could be seen in his response to Syria, with tomahawks hitting pretty pointless locations causing minimal damage. Sam's with Iran when their strike on our bases in Iraq was not met with all out war.

The powers that be loathe us populist conservatives more than any other demographic. Also if genuine leaders in this political base began rising up I can guarantee a massive amount of support from Christian conservatives and a huge chunk of minority groups that often sympathize with a fiscally liberal, socially conservative set of ideals. We do not want war. We grew up as kids during Dubya's presidency. We saw even more unamerican behavior and general malaise under Obama. We saw it would have just continued with Clinton. Now trump is out thry are trying again with Biden.

Trump's presidency in many ways was a failure but it changed the game. Many now know that civil restoration of our republic is next to impossible. Trump's presidency completely altered how politicians deal with eachother and media in bed with the politicians is openly exposed now. Many of us knew that Trump was probably going to be lame but he was a magnificent wrench we threw into the cogs of the machine just to piss off 5he neocons and neolibs. What I have been amused of as of late is seeing how China and Russia have learned from Trump and are bringing hardcore bantz up against the loathed rainbow flag wavers in power.

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ALAMO

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Post n°757

Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

ALAMO Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:34 am

Azi wrote:
What kind of economic misery? Sanctions would hit western europe too! So it's fair

The Ukrainian one my friend. welcome

JohninMK

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Post n°758

Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

JohninMK Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:49 am

ATLASCUB wrote:Belarussian rail grid hit with a cyberattack...

The war at the fringes already started. There better be some payback.... otherwise what's to deter?

Top level military probably pleased. It added an extra sense of realism to the exercise and added a test that might not have been included. That is unless it was self inflicted for exactly that reason.

Either way valuable lessons were learnt.

Expect NATO to do the same in their next big exercise, if they have any sense.

GarryB

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

GarryB Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Belarussian rail grid hit with a cyberattack...

The war at the fringes already started.

There better be some payback.... otherwise what's to deter?

Work out who did it and attack them specificially... otherwise it is just unfounded mindless escalation... the sort that the US practises. Highly likely.

Trump would have been more hawkish except that us supporters made it clear any war would destroy him.

Trump got elected for being anti war and for bringing US troops home from wars that do nothing for the US except make the 1% slightly richer.

He is not the smartest however and was goaded by the democraps into the opposite policy he promised with the Russians... he never promised to be their best buddies, but he did say he wanted to work with them instead of fighting them tooth and nail so they could get good things done.

Democrap bullshit tricked Trump into over compensating and putting more sanctions on Russia than Oblamma did.

He is a business man, not a warrior.... but his business technique was to rip up existing deals and try to get a new deal with better conditions for the US.

Of course ripping up deals like that makes the US unreliable so what is the point of negotiating new deals if the old deals just got ripped up... and if you give them better terms now for breaking the old deal... what is to stop them doing that all the time to further improve their advantages in deals?

He also wasn't very good at making deals either.

And the people he took on to advise him were idiots.

The powers that be loathe us populist conservatives more than any other demographic.

Love when westerners deride populist anything.... I guess the concept of democracy where the people decide by voting and the most popular candidate gets elected or in a referendum the most popular choice is written in to law or adopted is now a bad thing...

Top level military probably pleased. It added an extra sense of realism to the exercise and added a test that might not have been included. That is unless it was self inflicted for exactly that reason.

Either way valuable lessons were learnt.

Hopefully changes will be made and security improved... across the board... not just in Belarus...

Expect NATO to do the same in their next big exercise, if they have any sense.

Might make it too hard though... that would be like the next HATO exercise giving their enemy hypersonic weapons and lots of drones and effective new stealth aircraft etc etc...

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zorobabel

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

zorobabel Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:33 pm

4 Raptor-class boats from the Baltic fleet being transported by truck:
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1487773497346732036?

PapaDragon

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

PapaDragon Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:30 pm

ATLASCUB wrote:Belarussian rail grid hit with a cyberattack...

The war at the fringes already started.

There better be some payback.... otherwise what's to deter?

This was done by Belarusians so it's dumb moron's job to deal with them

That backstabbing dipshit should have been left to hang on a lamp-post and replaced with someone competent instead of being coddled

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JohninMK

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

JohninMK Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:31 pm

From 2 days ago, can't remember if already posted. Draw your own conclusions.

Ukrainian military, US advisers draft plan for offensive in Donbass — Donetsk

"According to our intelligence, the Ukrainian General Staff under the guidance of US advisers at the Ukrainian Defense Ministry is putting final touches to a plan for an offensive operation in Donbass. The date of aggression against the people’s republics will be set when the attack groups have been created and the operation’s plan approved by Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council," he said.

The Ukrainian armed forces’ command, Basurin said, is going to redeploy to the area of the conflict another three brigades - 72nd mechanized infantry brigade, 10th mountain assault brigade and 80th airborne assault brigade, which are considered to the most combat ready and capable of conducting offensive operations."

The people’s militia, Basurin said, has evidence that the Ukrainian railways have been ordered by the Defense Ministry to provide trains for transporting the military hardware and personnel of the three brigades from the stations Belaya Tserkov, Kolomyia and Lvov on February 3-10.

Basurin said at the news briefing that the 80th airborne assault brigade had completed training at a training center in Starichi, the Lvov Region, operating in the disguise of the so-called International Peacekeeping and Security Center. Basurin said the training was conducted by British instructors from the training mission Orbital. The Ukrainian forces were trained to conduct operations in urban terrain. Basurin did not rule out that the trained paratroops might be used in assault groups in urban areas on the way to Gorlovka and Donetsk.

Also, Basurin said that the Sumy branch of Ukraine’s nationalist organization National Corps has begun field training for mercenaries under the guidance of nationalists with experience in combat operations during Kiev’s crackdown on Donbass in the summer of 2014. There has been evidence that "taking part in training militants are instructors from private US military companies Forward Observation Group and Academia.".

https://tass.com/world/1394379

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owais.usmani

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

owais.usmani Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:59 pm

https://twitter.com/NeysunM/status/1486851943901368323

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

owais.usmani Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:00 pm

https://twitter.com/semper_vincit/status/1487541836423987201

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

zorobabel Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:29 pm

zorobabel wrote:4 Raptor-class boats from the Baltic fleet being transported by truck:
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1487773497346732036?

Geolocated to Voronezh oblast, moving south.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Isos Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:11 pm

Well I hardly see Ukrainian launching an attack on the Dombas now that they have so many russians around their country. That would be a suicide.

They are not that dumb.

If Russia really wants to invade they better not wait for ukrainian to do such a stupid move. They should also absolutly not try to mount a stupid thing like Bush and the 11 sept World trade cebter CIA attack. Best would be an official statement like "we give you 72 hours to remove troops or we will invade you..." or "72h we are attacking. If you give up there will be no dead and you will keep you country because we don't want it". This way Ukraine will have to give up before anything starts.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Backman Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:15 am

Isos wrote:Well I hardly see Ukrainian launching an attack on the Dombas now that they have so many russians around their country. That would be a suicide.

They are not that dumb.

I don't see how the US would not try and make the frontline hot even momentarily, to prevent the certification of Nord Stream 2. This is probably the plan and not even the Ukraine president is in on it.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

kvs Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:39 am

Wait for the false flag.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

PhSt Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:40 am

kvs wrote:Wait for the false flag.

Most likely will be timed again during the Olympics, NATzO might be thinking that Russia won't make a move to not embarrass China

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

GarryB Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:27 am

Most likely will be timed again during the Olympics, NATzO might be thinking that Russia won't make a move to not embarrass China

Russia wont make a move during the Olympics, but if Kiev does then Russia will respond.... just like they did with Sakashvili attacked South Ossetia and a VDV peace keeping base during an Olympics opening ceremony...

Russia can wait and if Kiev does anything stupid they can react safe in the knowledge they didn't start it but now they can finish it for good by taking out some enemies in Kiev... based on western attacks on Serbia that means they can take out all sorts of HQs and military barracks as well as TV stations... they can even claim their maps are out of date and hit the UK embassy.... I am sure friendly Ukrainians will have supplied them with a list of the bad guys that are the problem and a war situation means they will have a free hand to strike.

They could probably stop the initial attack in its tracks just with artillery... the forming up areas for their armoured formations could be showered with HEAT munitions and fragmentation bomblets from Smerch in minutes... it would be a blood bath.

No shock and Awe... just shock.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

Sujoy Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:56 am

The existence of an independent Ukraine since the early 1990s has been a security disaster for the world at large, especially since this situation allowed China to lay its hands on several weapons engineering & production technologies over the past 25 years, including those for ballistic missiles & their cannisterisation, SS-BSM & cruise missiles production, and most notably the construction of aircraft carriers & their carrier-based fixed-wing combat aircraft like the J-15.

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

ALAMO Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:03 am

Sujoy wrote:The existence of an independent Ukraine since the early 1990s has been a security disaster for the world at large, especially since this situation allowed China to lay its hands on several weapons engineering & production technologies over the past 25 years, including those for ballistic missiles & their cannisterisation, SS-BSM & cruise missiles production, and most notably the construction of aircraft carriers & their carrier-based fixed-wing combat aircraft like the J-15.

I really admire your uncompromised approach Laughing

Really do bro! Very Happy

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Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #31

TMA1 Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:50 am

owais.usmani wrote:
https://twitter.com/NeysunM/status/1486851943901368323

Haha she says we need to stop this struggle so we can go back to "build back better". She might as well say "our meddling in east europe and central asia is your fault we need to get back to our nefarious plans for the future". Ffs Suspect