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    Post  kvs Mon May 29, 2023 12:52 pm

    The story of the PAC-3 intercepting Kinzhals is utter propaganda inanity. It is self-evident in this regard since it follows the usual pattern
    of western wonder waffle, game changer weapons winning the war for the plucky Kiev regime. It is BS fitting the cognitive dissonance
    box that confines the brain of the typical NATzO MSM consumer. This cognitive dissonance box is set up with the help of entertainment
    such as movies where physics and reality constraints are non-existent to serve the cheesy plot. Somehow a MACH 10 missile becomes
    like any subsonic missile because that is the way child-like brains want to believe it is. The feel-good narrative is paramount.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon May 29, 2023 3:11 pm

    Meanwhile, the isolation of Russia is doing great.

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    This time Lavrov is being harshly isolated in Kenya.

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    Post  lancelot Mon May 29, 2023 8:06 pm


    Johnny Harris: Shameless Propagandist Debunked - The WEF & The Myth of Neoliberal Prosperity.

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    Post  PhSt Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:17 pm

    Longtime Fox News producer fired after network calls President Biden a ‘wannabe dictator’

    So much for the touted Western traditions of Free speech  Rolling Eyes

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    Post  PhSt Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:51 pm



    So Vice news has released another Propaganda piece that pushes the narrative that Russia is kidnapping and brainwashing kids from NATO occupied Ukraine. In my view, NATO media continues to take advantage of Russia's leniency when it comes to allowing NATO journalists in Russia to freely operate and make propaganda content with the aim of damaging and discrediting Russia.

    If this is the case, maybe at least Russia should return the favor and send in investigative journalists to NATO countries, particularly the US and start making the same contents to discredit the US.


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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:40 am

    The US has been screaming for years and now I suspect Putin and friends have stopped listening... something the rest of the world is likely to start doing now...

    Even the people the US pretends to care about... watch this:



    This video is by a Chinese guy asking people on the street in China about which countries they don't like.

    At about 4 minutes thirty seconds in is an Uyghur girl who does not like the US... but the US claims China is oppressing Uyghurs and the US is trying to save them... how does that work? Unless the US is lying again....

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:01 pm

    PhSt wrote:

    So Vice news has released another Propaganda piece that pushes the narrative that Russia is kidnapping and brainwashing kids from NATO occupied Ukraine. In my view, NATO media continues to take advantage of Russia's leniency when it comes to allowing NATO journalists in Russia to freely operate and make propaganda content with the aim of damaging and discrediting Russia.

    If this is the case, maybe at least Russia should return the favor and send in investigative journalists to NATO countries, particularly the US and start making the same contents to discredit the US.



    This is standard NATzO propaganda inverse psychology.   It is NATzO and its Kiev coup regime proxies that are trying to brainwash ethnic Russians in
    eastern "Ukraine" that they are not ethnic Russians.    This is not just about stopping the use of the Russian language.   It is about historical revisionism
    and blood libel.   So Kievan Rus was some sort of fictional "Kiyivan state" that was populated by ethnic Ukrs speaking something called the Ukrian language.  There was no such ethnic group in the 1200s and there was no such language.   The ethnic Ukrian identity arose from the occupation by the Grand Duchy
    of Poland and Lithuania of the western lands of what was called Ukraine by the Bolsheviks when they consolidated this fake state, initially a project of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, in the 1920s.   This occupation occurred after the Tatar-Mongol horde destroyed Kievan Rus and Kiev in particular leaving a
    disorganized and nearly depopulated region.  

    The Grand Duchy of Poland and Lithuania engaged in the routine forced assimilation, namely linguistic and religious.   That is where the Ukrian language
    emerged from together with the Uniate Church a type of Catholicism but with Orthodox frills retained.  

    None of the lands from Odessa to east of the Dniepr was ever Ukrian.   Every single city in the south and east of "Ukraine" was founded in the Russian
    Empire in the 1600s and later.   These lands were settled by ethnic Russians.   The true Ukrians stayed in their western lands and retained their
    assimilated language, religion and culture.   Of course over time there was some population migration but even during the 1920s there was no Ukrian
    identity in the south and east of "Ukraine".    

    You can see the historical thumbprint in the voting pattern in post-Soviet Ukraine where the country was split regionally between a western anti-Russian
    part and a pro-Russian part in the south and east:

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:53 am

    Putin was correct to call the collective West an "Empire of Lies".



    The audacity to openly lie and pin down all of your crimes on your opponent is just mind-boggling.
    Dw is a literal Neo-Nazi mainstream media outlet with extreme hatred against Russia. American media, however bad they are, are no match for these Eurotrash media outlets in terms of pure hatred against Russia. The DW comment section is filled with Nazi minions bickering about Russia.

    What gets my nerve is how they pretend to be this liberal SJW type of revolutionary media while in reality they're openly supporting NAZIs in Ukraine. Neo-Nazi seems like a fitting name to identify them. If Russia has to retaliate against NATZO countries, then please make sure to also target these media HQs as they're also perpetrators of the Ukro war and hence deserve to be punished.

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:39 pm

    French are still in Africa, but no Western media talks about them.
    They are sucking out resources from 14 different countries in Africa, but according to the MSM, it's the Russian Wagners who're destabilising Africa.

    It's not often talked about, but the French were no better than the Belgians when it came to torturing, raping, and plundering in their colonies. There is photographic evidence of their crimes in Africa, akin to those of the NAZI SS division against the Jews



    Eurofag hypocrites cry about Soviet soldiers mass raping German women with not much evidence to back up their claims, but you would never hear them talk about French soldiers mass raping Algerian women, even though we have photo visual evidence of what the French did in Algeria.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:47 pm

    You just need to read between the lines.

    When a western country like Germany or France or the UK for that matter complain that Wagner is destabilising Africa, what they mean is that Wagner is helping Africa cut the strings the Europeans have tied African countries up with and soon the Europeans wont have any rope left to hang African countries with... they will become independent nations who might do something crazy like join BRICS...

    More often than not they describe their own actions... like claiming China is trying to trap African countries in terminal debt spirals they can never escape from and will be trapped paying money to China forever... which is what Europe did to everyone they could...

    Ironically the Chinese are building infrastructure in Africa and helping African countries develop and grow... no doubt in the hope of getting contracts... but why shouldn't they... most western countries just bribe African governments and officials and the African people suffer for the choices the west bribes them to make... handing over resources to rich western companies for next to nothing with african workers working for next to nothing.

    Look at ethical coffee... if the west is so damn moral how can non ethical coffee continue to exist and what about ethical everything else?

    When will the rest of the world be paid a fair amount for their resources and raw materials... I will tell you when... when they start trading with Russia and China and other BRICS countries...

    @Kev... exactly, Wagner is a PMC but its job is to create peace and order and not to rampage and create disorder and chaos.


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    Post  kvs Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:50 pm

    Western propaganda is intellectually insulting. Wagner has to be invited by local governments in Africa. It does not work for random non-state
    organizations. Wagner also does no hire itself for conflicts between African states. So "destabilization" implies that it is local governments that are
    destabilizing their own countries. Wagner does not engage in NGO political agitation but plenty of NATzO outfits posing as "human rights" and
    "development assistance" NGOs are tasked with regime change and political destabilization.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:12 am

    Jokes aside, there is not much wrong with those titles.
    Those are not protests but riots and plunder carried out by mostly Muslim extremist youth.
    What is going on in France, is a bright picture of total collapse of multi-culti ideology that was powering Europe for three decades.
    LGBTXYZ+-1 madness is nothing new, there must be some spin all the time. Spin doctors are figuring only the subject to be pushed later.
    It was multiculturalism back then.
    End effect is, that France is full of formal citizens, who physically hate their country. I have read some research a while ago, that in third generation of African migrants to France, 60% (!!) hate France. Hate. Imagine that.
    In Germany, you have entire neighborhoods where you can hardly communicate in German - all are Turks. Or Albanians.
    It is very interesting subject of observation because in my country there have been several migrant waves of different origins.
    The first one was Greeks, arrived after crushed down revolution of 1948.
    Tons of Vietnamese arrived in the 70s.
    Some Chinese in the 80s.
    Around 100k Chechens in the 90/00.
    Aside from Chechens, who disappeared with time, every other community soaked into the society perfectly well.
    At the moment, you can hardly guess that someone has Greek roots if not asked/told. Asians are obviously easy to find, yet there are no closed "towns".
    All Vietnamese and Chinese I know, run their own businesses. Kids are at school, raised as any other young citizen.
    But there was no multiculti madness here, ever. Zero tolerance for exclusivity. And zero acceptance for "culture" related crimes.
    Let the French eat the soup they cooked. Enjoy!

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    The list is long. They've been murdering African presidents since 1963. The last one was Gaddafi in 2011. France deserves much more than some riots in the streets.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:10 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Jokes aside, there is not much wrong with those titles.
    Those are not protests but riots and plunder carried out by mostly Muslim extremist youth.
    What is going on in France, is a bright picture of total collapse of multi-culti ideology that was powering Europe for three decades.
    LGBTXYZ+-1 madness is nothing new, there must be some spin all the time. Spin doctors are figuring only the subject to be pushed later.
    It was multiculturalism back then.
    End effect is, that France is full of formal citizens, who physically hate their country. I have read some research a while ago, that in third generation of African migrants to France, 60% (!!) hate France. Hate. Imagine that.
    In Germany, you have entire neighborhoods where you can hardly communicate in German - all are Turks. Or Albanians.
    It is very interesting subject of observation because in my country there have been several migrant waves of different origins.
    The first one was Greeks, arrived after crushed down revolution of 1948.
    Tons of Vietnamese arrived in the 70s.
    Some Chinese in the 80s.
    Around 100k Chechens in the 90/00.
    Aside from Chechens, who disappeared with time, every other community soaked into the society perfectly well.
    At the moment, you can hardly guess that someone has Greek roots if not asked/told. Asians are obviously easy to find, yet there are no closed "towns".
    All Vietnamese and Chinese I know, run their own businesses. Kids are at school, raised as any other young citizen.
    But there was no multiculti madness here, ever. Zero tolerance for exclusivity. And zero acceptance for "culture" related crimes.
    Let the French eat the soup they cooked. Enjoy!



    The number of the Greeks and Macedonians was never huge, only some thousands. Many of the Macedonians were repatriated to Yugoslavia
    during the 1980's. I suspect some of the Greeks might have returned to Greece. Greeks and Macedonians were such tiny minorities that they were barely noticed.

    There were Vietnamese who came to Poland as students, but many of them returned to Vietnam, and their number was never huge.

    I never saw a single Chinese or Vietnamese person in Poland during the 1980's, and I have been to some of the largest cities in Poland at that time, including Warsaw.


    Chechens, Chinese, Vietnamese, Ukrainians, they will never become Polish.

    Majority of Ukrainians hate Poland and ethnic Poles.



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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:59 am

    Jokes aside, there is not much wrong with those titles.
    Those are not protests but riots and plunder carried out by mostly Muslim extremist youth.

    Hahaha... yeah... no muslim extremists in Iran...

    And lets have a bit more honesty about what made them extremist... perhaps the destruction of the countries they have fled by the collective west?

    When you spend your time smashing down housing don't be surprised when the swatters arrive to the only houses safe from your aggression.

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    Post  andalusia Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:22 am

    What hypocrisy of this author to accuse China of using money to buy influence in western governments but the US does this around the world; I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is a undercover CIA agent that is using propanganda to put the US deep state in a good light:

    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2023-07-06-show/

    https://www.amazon.com/Follow-Money-China-Bought-World/dp/1634244451/ctoc

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:25 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Hahaha... yeah... no muslim extremists in Iran...
    And lets have a bit more honesty about what made them extremist... perhaps the destruction of the countries they have fled by the collective west?
    When you spend your time smashing down housing don't be surprised when the swatters arrive to the only houses safe from your aggression.

    You are addressing only one part of the issue.
    France benefits from its colonial history with all its pros and cons.
    Technically speaking, those people are citizens of the republic. Or descendants of them.
    Nobody harassed them.
    There was a quite telling interview with UAE minister of foreign affairs a week ago or so, who addressed the westerners. First of all, instructed us, that we need to cease with a logic that we know better the internal problems of a Muslim world rather than Muslims themselves. And if this behavior will continue, the only place with Islamist terrorism and riots will be Europe. As the Muslim world is getting rid of its extremists, who are safely broadcasting from Europe later on.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:13 am

    andalusia wrote:What hypocrisy of this author to accuse China of using money to buy influence in western governments but the US does this around the world; I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is a undercover CIA agent that is using propanganda to put the US deep state in a good light:

    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2023-07-06-show/

    https://www.amazon.com/Follow-Money-China-Bought-World/dp/1634244451/ctoc


    Well the Chinese loan money with lower interest rate than the West and do not impose regime change or "reforms" like the West. And somehown Chinese is accused of buy influence while the West is not.

    Utter hillarious.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:34 am

    Irrelevant post here Razz Razz

    https://img.dantocmiennui.vn/t620/uploaddtmn//2017/8/1/c11-1.jpg

    Image of a marriage ceremony of Bani Muslims in Bình Thuận.

    Bani Islam is a syncretic Islam branch of the Champa ethnic group with very strong influence from ancient Hinduism, Buddhism and native beliefs. The Bani communities mainly lived in the provinces of Ninh Thuận and Bình Thuận, the heartland of ancient Champa kingdom at its last period. The distinctive nature of Bani Islam was due to the in-complete Islamization of the Champa kingdom, as they was destroyed and assimilated by Đại Việt before Islamization was complete.

    Other Champa communities have been living in An Giang and Cambodia and have stronger exposure to international Islam, as a result they have received a complete Islamization and predominantly follow the mainstream Malaysian branch of the religion.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:10 pm

    As the Muslim world is getting rid of its extremists, who are safely broadcasting from Europe later on.

    That might be possible now that the US does not direct Saudi Arabia like a puppet with their reorientation to BRICS, but before it was the CIA creating monsters all over the region... so a few of their monsters end up in Canada and Europe and other western places is no real surprise.

    The US has been funding Nazis longer than most of us have been alive...

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    Post  andalusia Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:56 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    andalusia wrote:What hypocrisy of this author to accuse China of using money to buy influence in western governments but the US does this around the world; I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is a undercover CIA agent that is using propanganda to put the US deep state in a good light:

    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2023-07-06-show/

    https://www.amazon.com/Follow-Money-China-Bought-World/dp/1634244451/ctoc


    Well the Chinese loan money with lower interest rate than the West and do not impose regime change or "reforms" like the West. And somehown Chinese is accused of buy influence while the West is not.

    Utter hillarious.
    . This is the recap from the show last night; what do you guys think of his opinion? https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2023-07-06-show/
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:08 pm

    And over the last 30 years, American companies have managed to lower their manufacturing costs by 80% by shipping their jobs over to China, though salaries have gone down for the average American worker, he noted.

    And Western capitalists in general have been done the same thing to other countries, including SEA, SA, and other developing countries in order to cut cost and increase the extraction of surplus value from cheap labour, while using it as a leverage against the American workers.

    But somehow the all blame is shifted to China. Somehow all the issue is because of China only. Not because of the greedy of capital who put profit over people.

    This Michael McCarthy guy is definetly a loyal dog of Western capitalist.

    In the first half, he shared his commentary about the global presence of China and the ways the Chinese Communist Party is secretly infiltrating Western democracies. In 1980, the US Congress gave China a most-favored-nation trading status, and corporate brands such as Heinz, R.J. Reynolds, Coca-Cola, American Express, Kodak, AT&T, Nabisco, and others jumped in to get involved with the country, he said. And over the last 30 years, American companies have managed to lower their manufacturing costs by 80% by shipping their jobs over to China, though salaries have gone down for the average American worker, he noted.

    This the "proof" of Chinese infiltration in the West ?

    So all of the developing countries is infiltrating the West because Western companies have been making huge investment to (and retrieving heaps of profit from) these countries (occasionally at the devastating expense of the native lives, natural resources, and local environment) ?

    Given what happened with Russia attacking Ukraine, McCarthy doesn't rule out the possibility that China will try to take over Taiwan.

    Yeah ? And so ? Taiwan is a part of China. There is nothing wrong with reunification with China. The West has been seperated it from the Mainland to serve as an anti-communist stronghold and the West itself once backstabbed Taiwan to serve its own interest.

    In his native Canada, the Chinese "have made huge inroads into our economy and political system," he said, adding that citizens are starting to object. A similar situation has occurred with the US, he indicated, pointing out that China has bought up a massive amount of US treasury bonds. The top crimes in China are not related to murder and violence but have to do with criticizing the government, he said. The punishment for such infractions is death, he claimed, and the accused are not given a trial but taken away in "execution vans." 8,000 people a year are killed this way, he believes.

    Does anybody manage to see any connection between the bolded part with the parts before it, either shown or not shown in the quote box ?

    Why the hell Western propaganda are so obssessed with their imaginary "crimes" they accused China (and many other countries) of to the point that they attempt to insert these accusation everywhere, everywhen, disregard of the context ?

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:39 am

    In the first half, he shared his commentary about the global presence of China and the ways the Chinese Communist Party is secretly infiltrating Western democracies. In 1980, the US Congress gave China a most-favored-nation trading status, and corporate brands such as Heinz, R.J. Reynolds, Coca-Cola, American Express, Kodak, AT&T, Nabisco, and others jumped in to get involved with the country, he said.

    But wasn't that all part of Americas genius plan to destroy the Soviet Union by becoming good friends with China?

    China could never make America be nice to China... America has to want to be nice, which means there has to be enormous profit or a big pay off for them being nice.

    That payoff was that they saw the Soviet Union as the bigger threat at the time.

    The top crimes in China are not related to murder and violence but have to do with criticizing the government, he said. The punishment for such infractions is death, he claimed, and the accused are not given a trial but taken away in "execution vans." 8,000 people a year are killed this way, he believes.

    Hahahaha... yeah, people who criticise western governments like Assange and Snowden and Manning etc etc usually end up in prison or dead... not to mention the 5,000 they kill per year with their drone strikes... which is probably why China kills 8,000 because 8,000 is more than 5,000 so China is more bad than us.

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