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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:08 am

    Freedom of speech... but I am prepared to put money on the likelyhood of these cartoons not aging well... even the Americans are saying a dozen or so F-16s is not going to change anything.

    Maybe some surprise attack, but Kievs problems are a lack of trained soldiers on the front line and F-16s are not going to change that.

    The reason they need F-16s is because all their other aircraft have been shot down already... which does not bode well for the future of the F-16 now does it.

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 pm

    Anti communism propaganda book "for children" in USA. And that craps is sold for 23$ or something.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:34 am

    I am sure it was sensible people spending taxpayers money responsibly... you can fight communism, but don't say a bad word about colonialism... Smile
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:18 pm

    You can say bad things about colonialism

    Even about your own colonialism that led to the founding and then expansion of the United States

    But don't you dare say a bad word about Israel Twisted Evil

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    Post  Mir Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:12 pm

    Maybe I'm seeing things but so many of these figures in the foreground - and even the main figure - seems like cut a paste jobs dunno

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    Seems like pulling fake crowds is the new "Goebels" propaganda tool - or maybe it's not so new... Rolling Eyes

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:56 pm

    Can anyone recommend a reliable search engine for politically sensitive issues? Even alternative sites like duckduckgo turned out to be yet another tool of Western propaganda.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:07 pm

    Classic Western propaganda.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-troops-water-shortages-ukraine-stagnant-puddles-1938384

    Russian forces are drinking from "stagnant puddles" as water shortages plague Moscow's troops in Ukraine, according to the U.K. government.

    Vladimir Putin's soldiers, now nearly two and a half years into the war effort, are likely experiencing spikes in waterborne diseases, dehydration, the U.K. government added in an intelligence update posted to social media. This will "almost certainly impact morale and operational effectiveness," the ministry assessed.

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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:13 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Can anyone recommend a reliable search engine for politically sensitive issues? Even alternative sites like duckduckgo turned out to be yet another tool of Western propaganda.

    Brave and Firefox are good on privacy as browsers. As you say duckduckgo flipped during the covid crap.
    I can recommend Startpage as a good search engine when you don't want to be tracked. However the search results is not going to be mind blowing as they draw results from other search engines like Google - but they can prevent you from being tracked.

    Yandex is pretty good as a search engine - but they do track.
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:59 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Can anyone recommend a reliable search engine for politically sensitive issues? Even alternative sites like duckduckgo turned out to be yet another tool of Western propaganda.

    Use Yandex. It does English language searches like Google but without the absurd censorship. The problem with Yandex is that it spits out a retarded captcha after
    a few searches. As if only bots do serious searches and humans just stop after one attempt. Maybe most do, but I don't care how retards behave.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:57 am

    Classic Western propaganda.

    Very classic... there was mention of diseases being a problem for the Ukrainian forces so they are trying to pretend the Russians are having problems in the same area too.

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    Post  andalusia Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:41 am

    Of course all of the universities are in the West; their is no mention of Russian universities:

    https://www.timeout.com/news/this-is-officially-the-best-university-in-the-world-according-to-a-new-ranking-082324

    https://www.timeout.com/news/europes-best-universities-have-been-crowned-heres-the-full-list-082324

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:06 pm

    These rankings are hilarious BS. They use irrelevant metrics such as campus life. Also, they 100% are using wokeness as a ranking element. So
    the number of LGBTXYZ events and associated "culture" rank a "university" higher. This goes hand in hand with "academic" programs that promote retarded
    woke degrees. You know, "math is racist".

    The top Russian universities mop the floor with most of the higher ranked (according to NATzO clown fake stream media) NATzO universities.

    The problem is that the Russian government is full of 5th column swine that extoll western academia and worship its excrement. So Russian researchers
    are forced to "establish" themselves by publishing in western rag academic journals as if they are God given venues for academic truth.

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Classic Western propaganda.

    Very classic... there was mention of diseases being a problem for the Ukrainian forces so they are trying to pretend the Russians are having problems in the same area too.

    Such a simple ploy and it works on the sheeple. So Russia has 10 times more artillery, but suffers 10 times more artillery related losses compared to Ukria. Somehow Ukrians
    who were part of the same amorphous Soviet mass of drunks have become ubermenschen compared to Russians. It's the magic of the NATzO west as it turns shit into gold.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:24 am

    kvs wrote:You know, "math is racist".

    But for the West, removing Russia/China/... universities out of the list is not considered "racist". pwnd pwnd pwnd

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    Post  PhSt Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:04 pm

    This Pavlovsky person still don't understand that as long as he resides/ operate in NATO countries, he is NOT SAFE from any persecution  Rolling Eyes

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    https://x.com/chrispavlovski/status/1827658235618144257

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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:34 pm



    NATzO clowns think they can brainwash Russians via Telegram.

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:25 am

    It was either propaganda or decline of western society, i chose propaganda.
    Average American view on things.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:59 pm

    https://thegrayzone.com/2024/09/03/canadian-journalist-canadian-ukrainian-intelligence-collaborator/

    Canadian journalist outs himself as Canadian, Ukrainian intelligence collaborator

    Canada’s National Post is refusing to comment after one of its columnists revealed himself to be a collaborator with Western-aligned intelligence agencies. A Canadian activist is now threatening to sue the paper after the confessed spy smeared him in a front page article.


    Adam Zivo, a columnist who covered the war in Ukraine for Canada’s National Post newspaper, has outed himself as an operative of Canadian and Ukrainian intelligence.

    “People are dunking on this tweet but this actually happened to me in Odesa in early 2023 with a guy who seemed to be a Chinese spy,” Zivo volunteered. “I ended up organizing a small sting operation with two Ukrainian intelligence officers to figure out what his deal was,” he declared.

    Zivo has zealously advocated for rapid deliveries of heavy weapons to Ukraine. He has also used his column as a platform for denigrating those he deemed an impediment to the war effort – including both the Canadian military and the nation of Germany, which he accused of “reckless greed and a callous disregard for eastern European lives” for initially declining to send tanks to Ukraine.

    Among Zivo’s targets was Dimitri Lascaris, a Canadian lawyer who narrowly lost the Canadian Green Party’s 2020 leadership election. In early 2023, Zivo made Lascaris the subject of a front-page report entitled, “Former Green party leadership candidate goes to Moscow to whitewash war.” In the column, Zivo accused Lascaris of “pro-Putin sympathies,” “seemingly endorsing pro-Kremlin propaganda,” and “uncritically and reflexively taking Russia’s side.”

    Following Zivo’s unmasking as a Ukrainian intelligence collaborator, Lascaris took to social media to argue the reporter-turned-spook “perpetrated a fraud by concealing from me and the public his spying activities,” then proceeded to write an “article about me [which] falsely insinuated that I was working in the service of the Russian government.”

    “The supreme irony here is that it was Zivo – not me – who was acting as a government agent,” Lascaris explained.

    In comments to The Grayzone, Lascaris remarked that “Zivo has also violated the journalistic values of transparency and integrity because he secured an interview with me on false pretences, and when the National Post published Zivo’s many articles about the Ukraine war, neither Zivo nor the Post disclosed to the public that Zivo was a spy.”

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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:23 am

    It was either propaganda or decline of western society, i chose propaganda.
    Average American view on things.

    Americans don't understand the need for MiG-25s and MiG-31s because they are the aggressor and they don't need such defensive capability... but if WWIII does kick off it is why they will be obliterated because their weapons are for parades and shop fronts and pasting overwhelmed tiny weak poor countries.

    The irony of being a foreign agent like that pretend journalist... being a government agent is the opposite of what a real journalist should be doing... a real journalist is looking for the truth and different sides to any story, while a government agent has a story to push and alternative views are attacked and denigrated along with those who share such alternative views.

    If that Canadian politician had turned out to actually be paid by Moscow he likely would be in Canadian jail right now, but this pretend reporter is a foreign agent for nazis and there are no repercussions except he loses a job his is clearly incapable of doing correctly.

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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:58 pm

    The Mig-25 video is pure small dick cope. Yammering about a long retired jet is just pathetic, especially considering that NATzO had no analogues. This is the usual nonsense of "if NATzO does not have it, then it is not needed or is inferior". Such "analysis" is mentally inadequate.

    BTW, I hear some "based" Americans bleat that Russia does not make its won drones and imports them from China and Iran. lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1
    These fuckwits apparently never heard about the Lancet.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:33 pm

    Any "anal-isis" about dedicated interceptors made in a country that used an F-16 with AIM-7 for the job till mid 90s can't be considered other than a joke.
    There is nothing to discuss, seriously.

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    Post  PhSt Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:22 am

    So NATO Mainstream Propaganda media is doubling down in their narrative that Putin is open to negotiations with Ukraine despite the recent Ukrainian atrocities in Kursk.

    This Cheap propaganda has been debunked in the SMO thread, but NATO propaganda outfits are still hoping that some uninformed fools will take the news seriously to incite resentment toward the Russian leadership.  Rolling Eyes



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    https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-putin-says-russia-ready-for-talks-with-kyiv/live-70138979



    This is the TRUE Color of NATO, they will not think twice about LYING for the sake of advancing their interests.



    The Queer looking monkey in the picture below is DW reporter Nick Connolly. About 2 weeks ago this vermin joined the Ukrainian cannon fodder team that crossed into Kursk.

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    My request to the Russian army is to KILL this terrorist as this monkey is clearly a NATO intelligence/ propaganda/ military asset. Eliminate him right away attack

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    Post  PhSt Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:38 am

    Looks like Telegram has made a deal with NATO for its slow takeover. Not good, Russia needs to set up an alternative for this platform Asap and make it international, Yes NATO will most likely block the new Russian platform but there will always be ways around this PLUS it will Expose NATO's double standards and Hypocrisy even more  attack

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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:52 pm

    Any "anal-isis" about dedicated interceptors made in a country that used an F-16 with AIM-7 for the job till mid 90s can't be considered other than a joke.
    There is nothing to discuss, seriously.

    It is actually much worse than that because for most of the 70s and 80s and even 90s the vast majority of F-16s didn't have a BVR missile option... AFAIK very few were equipped with Sparrows, and most relied on Sidewinders... which is why, despite their decent flight performance and capable radar and avionics, they would have been in serious trouble against MiG-23s and Mig-29s of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union.

    Even if they did all have Sparrows the Soviets had R-27 missiles with passive radar seekers that could hit targets emitting illuminating beams for SARH missiles.

    The R-27 and R-27E were both faster and longer ranged than Sparrow so an F-16 or F-15 for that matter marking a MiG-29 or Su-27 so it can fire a Sparrow at it would be immediately fired upon if such an R-27 was being carried by the defending aircraft... the F-16 or F-15 would need to keep their radar pointed at the target meaning they would need to keep closing the target to hold the lock... any break in tracking and any Sparrow already fired would be useless and fall to the ground.

    Once the Soviet plane has launched their anti radiation R-27 it can turn away and do anything it pleases and its missile will home in on the F-16s or F-15s radar... which is in target marking SARH mode and would not notice the incoming missile... which is faster and longer ranged than any model Sparrow, which means the Soviet missile hits first and the US missile hits the ground or the water.

    But that is OK because in close combat HATO training means they will win... except the IRST and R-73 and helmet mounted sights in the MiG-29 and Su-27 means they wont.

    Even being super generous and giving them a 2 to 1 loss ratio HATO is going to run out of aircraft... and that is just air to air... their ground based air defence systems were formidable and mobile and independent and even taking down the AD network the components of of the systems can all work independently... not as effective, but still very dangerous...

    This Cheap propaganda has been debunked in the SMO thread, but NATO propaganda outfits are still hoping that some uninformed fools will take the news seriously to incite resentment toward the Russian leadership.

    Or is it wishful thinking hoping to pull the ash from the fire and still say this is good turkey...

    To admit they should have talked peace earlier would be to admit you made a mistake and the west are incapable of that... they needed the pressure of Kursk to get the great deal they are about to negotiate... but how could Russia even trust them?

    They can't and Russia knows they can't.

    You can't negotiate with a side that invents its own truth and bans all alternative views.


    The Queer looking monkey in the picture below is DW reporter Nick Connolly. About 2 weeks ago this vermin joined the Ukrainian cannon fodder team that crossed into Kursk.

    He is likely already dead... is he still posting stories?

    Looks like Telegram has made a deal with NATO for its slow takeover.

    So the free speech hero folded like all the others.

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    Post  kvs Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:11 pm

    Durov was a west-o-phile and thus a clown. It is poetic justice for this clown to be reamed by the ones who he admired.

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