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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3

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    Post  Kriva Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:34 pm

    nomadski wrote:
    @ kriva

    Never assume that those in charge or politicians , either know or plan well for anything . Their brain works in the same way as anyone . The soldiers on the ground can make good or better judgements , about what is needed or what should be done . A lot of this operation is make it up as you go along . Not everything can be planned in advance . Agree with keeping West Ukraine neutral , with external security provided by Russia and border control . Internal security and administration by Ukrainians . Nothing to be given to " Europe " !


    Assumptions are the mother of all mistakes.
    In problem solving one of the key roles of an investigator is to steer the team from making pre-mature conclussions ie. stop any assupmtions or proposed solutions before the investigation is over. Team members tend to jump ahead of themselves.

    For lasting solution you have to have some form of presence in Western UA otherwise you have failed.
    If that wasn't an objective then this mess is for nothing.

    Shouldn't have ever happened in the first place but here we are sadly.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:36 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
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    Bye Bye PD.



    Pls tell me this is a ban.  I'm so sick of this turncoat b'stard and his hysterical nonsense.  

    Shame really, it was him who brought me here back in 2015.
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    Post  Maximmmm Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:37 pm

    Considering how focused everyone else is on Europe and its hysteria, the rest of the world looks quite interesting.
    China: Basically pro-russian stance, some of the most aggressive rhetoric they've ever put out diplomatically.
    India: Maintaining neutrality, if anything pissed off at Ukraine for fucking over the evacuation of Indian citizens (who knew there were that many there?).
    Rest of asia: Only South Korea and Japan joining in, with SK still allowing for a bunch of business to happen.
    South america: Pretty mum, some vocally for neutrality like Brazil.
    Africa: Few colonized states speaking out, but relatively calm.
    Middle-east: Either casual support of Russia or neutrality.
    Bonus points: Serbia (bros you guys are great), Georgia (holy god you actually can find rational thinking there), Hungary (Orban doing his own thing as always).

    That unshakable world alliance of freedom doesn't really look that impressive when you take all into account.

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:37 pm

    These Indian students have uploaded a video where they can be found saying that at least 3 of their fellow Indian class mates were abducted by Ukranian authorities https://twitter.com/akki_bauer22_/status/1498235511479037952?s=20&t=wMNpL0nn6E1PKfaJdJ48FA

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:38 pm

    Dima wrote:
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Mp10

    Where is that?
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:40 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:Considering how focused everyone else is on Europe and its hysteria, the rest of the world looks quite interesting.
    China: Basically pro-russian stance, some of the most aggressive rhetoric they've ever put out diplomatically.
    India: Maintaining neutrality, if anything pissed off at Ukraine for fucking over the evacuation of Indian citizens (who knew there were that many there?).
    Rest of asia: Only South Korea and Japan joining in, with SK still allowing for a bunch of business to happen.
    South america: Pretty mum, some vocally for neutrality like Brazil.
    Africa: Few colonized states speaking out, but relatively calm.
    Middle-east: Either casual support of Russia or neutrality.
    Bonus points: Serbia (bros you guys are great), Georgia (holy god you actually can find rational thinking there), Hungary (Orban doing his own thing as always).

    That unshakable world alliance of freedom doesn't really look that impressive when you take all into account.

    The test will be how many of them will actually stand up against the US at the UN this week, even by just abstaining.

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    Post  Maximmmm Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:41 pm

    Also boys, it seems like kotels are back on the menu.
    Russian MOD confirms troops linked up with DNR troops to surround mauriupol!
    Also it seems like the southern front is really working at full tilt, besides the cleanup in kherson, there's apparently columns heading to krivoy rog already.
    Would be nice to see kharkov finally cleared out today as well.

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    Post  Maximmmm Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:42 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:Considering how focused everyone else is on Europe and its hysteria, the rest of the world looks quite interesting.
    China: Basically pro-russian stance, some of the most aggressive rhetoric they've ever put out diplomatically.
    India: Maintaining neutrality, if anything pissed off at Ukraine for fucking over the evacuation of Indian citizens (who knew there were that many there?).
    Rest of asia: Only South Korea and Japan joining in, with SK still allowing for a bunch of business to happen.
    South america: Pretty mum, some vocally for neutrality like Brazil.
    Africa: Few colonized states speaking out, but relatively calm.
    Middle-east: Either casual support of Russia or neutrality.
    Bonus points: Serbia (bros you guys are great), Georgia (holy god you actually can find rational thinking there), Hungary (Orban doing his own thing as always).

    That unshakable world alliance of freedom doesn't really look that impressive when you take all into account.

    The test will be how many of them will actually stand up against the US at the UN this week, even by just abstaining.

    I'm also very genuinely interested.
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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:48 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Fmwdzx10
    This was happening inside the building in Kharkov. Some sources say it was a guided Smerch round.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Kherso10
    Russian troops in Kherson
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Scree128
    Moving to the border, at least.

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:49 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Fmuqzq10
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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Fmwcop10

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:50 pm

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    Around Mariupol

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:51 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Fmviad10
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    Kharkov

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:55 pm

    Sergei glazyev has spoken out

    He says, Niabullina has very little time left

    The central bank of Russia is under harsh scrutiny

    Niabullina has not stopped anything but rather increased the effect of western sanctions

    It is necessary to:

    Lower interest rates to sub 1 % level and print rubles to sustain this

    But before the drop in interest rates, it is necessary to establish payments in national currencies with main trading partners

    This can be supported with a digital ruble, as well as SPFS system, Mir pay and Union pay will only work for the chinese direction

    For india, south america, india and the middle east it will be necessary to hold their currencies as reserves

    It is necessary to seize and freeze the assets of western partners as collateral for similar seizures in europe.

    The gas system must be frozen, sales to Europe cannot continue under the current trajectory , the only thing that will alleviate the end of the gas system is the lifting of sanctions on Ukraine

    New Russia (Ukraine) industries can reduce the effect of offshorization of Russian assets, creating a closed trading system with the EEU can also mitigate job losses and support the labor industry

    In all, the task is to support the exchange of payments, lower the interest rate, and support the loss of foreign assets with seizure of domestic ones and creation of new trading loops in the EEU bloc

    Fridman, Deripaska, Abramovich, and others will be dispossessed in some form of their assets

    They will bear the brunt of sanctions

    Good news


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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:58 pm

    Ukrainians are not using vehicles anymore IMO. Thry were totally crushed.

    Ukrainian propaganda shows what's going on in the cities but not outside. Ukrainian military vehicles are totally unsafe outside cities.

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    Post  Dima Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    https://i.servimg.com/u/f51/17/49/86/87/mp10.jpg

    Where is that?

    Gas Turbine Research & Production Complex Zorya-Mashproekt at Mykolaiv.
    https://zmturbines.com/en/

    Next to the shipyard. Hope it can be taken under control without any damage or destruction, considering that neo nazi's will try to destroy it before falling into Russian hands.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #3 - Page 14 Mykola10

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:04 pm

    Clowns of Russian central bank must be ousted immediately

    Mr Putin has more criticism from me in this direction than anywhere else

    He is seriously slow in that direction, the reorientation of the economy needed to have taken place at least in 2018, there was some moves in 2014

    But he listened to advisors of niabullina and the medvedev clan,

    Glazyev and the left wing advisors are totally correct in this stance I agree with left wing ministers

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:04 pm

    Russian MoD: Exit of ukri troops to the Sea of Azov is completely blocked. Forces of the DPR reached the borders of the region and connected with russian forces. (ASB news)

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:05 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian MoD: Exit of ukri troops to the Sea of Azov is completely blocked. Forces of the DPR reached the borders of the region and connected with russian forces. (ASB news)
    This is old news, nazis of mariupol are totally goners

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    Post  Yugo90 Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:08 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Hole wrote:Russian MoD: Exit of ukri troops to the Sea of Azov is completely blocked. Forces of the DPR reached the borders of the region and connected with russian forces. (ASB news)
    This is old news, nazis of mariupol are totally goners
    now bomb them to heellll
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:12 pm

    What makes me mad is this niabullina liberal allowed ruble to free float back in 2014

    Why is the ruble free float? At very least tie it to damn gold, or peg it to holdings of other currencies besides Euro and Dollar

    This is where the leadership has failed tremendously , how is it you say I am taking a decision I should have done long ago

    But you did not think in economic terms? Well I am glad western partners have kicked our asses in the central bank

    Now restructuring is a must, and there is nothing can be argued against it

    Glazyev and the soviet left wing economic advisors are the saving grace of Russia today

    They need to run the economy, and they're not so old fashioned , Glazyev increasingly speaks of the digital ruble

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:13 pm

    Russia will strike the SBU and PSO center in Kiev.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:15 pm

    https://www.investopedia.com/russia-may-use-cryptocurrency-to-evade-sanctions-5220265

    Look like Central Bank already approved digital ruble 1 week ago

    It must be implemented quickly

    Maybe SPFS can support trade with China, and the Russian blockchain can keep track of payments with third countries

    The US will have no way to know what transactions are occurring

    You will see su35 sold for palmseed oil, but the payment went through in blockchain

    Pindos have outdone themselves

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    Post  franco Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:16 pm

    The Russian army loves those "pockets"

    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1498641377097392131?cxt=HHwWhoC9-Y2Zn8wpAAAA

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:21 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:What makes me mad is this niabullina liberal allowed ruble to free float back in 2014

    Why is the ruble free float? At very least tie it to damn gold, or peg it to holdings of other currencies besides Euro and Dollar

    This is where the leadership has failed tremendously , how is it you say I am taking a decision I should have done long ago

    But you did not think in economic terms? Well I am glad western partners have kicked our asses in the central bank

    Now restructuring is a must,  and there is nothing can be argued against it

    Glazyev and the soviet left wing economic advisors are the saving grace of Russia today

    They need to run the economy,  and they're not so old fashioned , Glazyev increasingly speaks of the digital ruble

    Their economy will be fine. They produce all the necessary things and can buy everything they need to non-westerners.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:21 pm

    Let's take the OT discussion about Nabiullina to the Russian economy therad.

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