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diabetus wrote:Russia could definitely use the PR win of a major victory over UA forces in the Donbass. That cauldron needs to happen ASAP.
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nero wrote:diabetus wrote:Russia could definitely use the PR win of a major victory over UA forces in the Donbass. That cauldron needs to happen ASAP.
Quit with the PR nonsense. No one beyond arm-chair generals in forums cares about them.
Like some children running around screaming "where's muh candy". Just substitute candy with 'PR'.
limb wrote:What's currently stopping the russians from advancing rapidly to zaporozhie, kremenchug and dnepropetrovsk? Isn't this area quite sparsely defended? Why cant there be an combined arms armored advance to smash into slavyansk and kramatorsk from behind, rather than assaulting avdeevka from the front?
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Your comprehension skills remain poor despite the fact that you live in the West. That's why you read things that were never mentioned.Werewolf wrote:So now you are resorting to more obvious trolling?
You believe that ambush tactics with modern ATGM's western or eastern is only effective against Russian tanks?
RTN wrote:Your comprehension skills remain poor despite the fact that you live in the West. That's why you read things that were never mentioned.Werewolf wrote:So now you are resorting to more obvious trolling?
You believe that ambush tactics with modern ATGM's western or eastern is only effective against Russian tanks?
The complete lack of cage armor (leave aside APS) on Russian armored formation shows the absolute lack of planning and resources. No wonder so many Russian MBTs, IFVs were effectively neutralized with ATGMs and that too indigenous Ukranian ones.
Loitering munitions like switchblade will only make things worse for the Russians.
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RTN wrote:
The complete lack of cage armor (leave aside APS) on Russian armored formation shows the absolute lack of planning and resources. No wonder so many Russian MBTs, IFVs were effectively neutralized with ATGMs and that too indigenous Ukranian ones.
Loitering munitions like switchblade will only make things worse for the Russians.
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Erk wrote:limb wrote:What's currently stopping the russians from advancing rapidly to zaporozhie, kremenchug and dnepropetrovsk? Isn't this area quite sparsely defended? Why cant there be an combined arms armored advance to smash into slavyansk and kramatorsk from behind, rather than assaulting avdeevka from the front?
You just answered your own question. It's sparsely defended.
If you are trying to capture/defeat the enemy military, you have to go to where they are.
Regular wrote:RTN wrote:
The complete lack of cage armor (leave aside APS) on Russian armored formation shows the absolute lack of planning and resources. No wonder so many Russian MBTs, IFVs were effectively neutralized with ATGMs and that too indigenous Ukranian ones.
Loitering munitions like switchblade will only make things worse for the Russians.
Cage armour would only be effective against RPG-16/22, but even RPG-7 munitions used by Ukrainians can defeat cage armour. Ukrainian domestic ATGMs are built on Soviet legacy ones and their tandem charges wouldn't care much about cages. APS would be nice.
nomadski wrote:Was thinking about evacuating civilian hostages in towns . Why not use smoke generation on large scale ? Have several smoke generators surround the city and depending on wind direction , turn them on ? heavier than air smoke that settles in streets ?This way the Orcs can not shoot at them and they can escape on foot ? Holy smokes ! Also not harmful or illegal like CS gas .
The Syrian army used cage armor in some of their T-72 tanks. I would not be surprised if the Russians evaluated that. If you look at the T-90M it has cage armor around the engine section in the back and it has a net under the turret. I suspect they did not do it yet because it would reduce tank mobility in the initial assault. You might see cage armor if the city fighting gets prolonged and more intense.flamming_python wrote:Cage armour is an oversight regardless and a pretty inexcusable one; they've had plenty of time to study the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and in fact some of their vehicles do have it, just not most.
Should be easy to rig up in a field workshop.
I disagree. It will likely happen in some other cities. Odessa is probably one of them.Regular wrote:hostages seem to be only used in Mariupol. Massive town, civilians would get into crossfire blindly crossing. After this city there no wunderwaffe will be needed
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lancelot wrote:
If they hide in the subway network in the larger cities then specialized Alpha squads with tranquilizer gas might prove effective there.
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When was Ugroza even introduced? How many Russian helos, UAVs do you know of that are carrying Ugroza?
You need to come up with better excuses.
Western precision guided rockets are 70mm with a > 5km range. Given their precision we don't need to fire several of these rockets.
In Iraq and Afghanistan enemy snipers were neutralized with these rockets. That's how precise they are. Light armored vehicles have been destroyed with these rockets. For heavily armored vehicles we can swap precision guided rockets for precision guided missiles.
Re cost, they are being mass produced for rotary platforms, fixed wing platforms and drones. Economies of scale has ensured that their cost is now at an all time low.
Looking at how semi skilled Ukranians are blowing Russian tanks till kingdom comes with just local ATGMs, UAVs, helos armed with these precision rockets would have wreaked havoc with any Russian armored convoy.
In built up areas of towns , where civilians and Orcs are mixed , then advance warning could be given to them , before buildings are levelled . This could be done by dispersing coloured smoke or dye ( Red ) , along streets about to be levelled , just before an attack . This gives the Orcs a choice of retreat / surrender or death . I think most will choose surrender , given a real choice . One or two examples may only be needed . Word gets around .
@garryb in reference to the S-5 warhead being too small.
Also, it is a source of info which is being actively used by some media outlets.
Captured soldiers will die en masse at the hands of his doctors, he warns in an interview
Ukrainian frontline medic claims he’s ordered castration of all Russian POWs
Gennadiy Druzenko speaks to Ukrainian TV
The US and Turkey are reportedly in talks over a deal for Ankara to send its Russian-made S-400 missile defense systems to Ukraine in exchange for the scrapping of sanctions imposed by Washington on its fellow NATO member.
If Russia will not be able to destabilize the Kiev regime then it will have to withdraw, and at that point Putin can be overthrown and the game is over.
But it's all for nothing if Russia undergoes regime-change after a lost and catastrophic war.
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Ever the parasitic thieves, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has proposed the confiscation of Russian-owned properties, as part of broad sanctions in response to Moscow's attack on Ukraine.
It's wasted breath to continue to cry about "when will Ukranians break the propaganda spell on them"... "If only they could see that this or that leadership is evil and doesn't care about them".... How about you stop being a child with kindergarten, emotionally fueled takes. That's not how it works.
Can't be, no wood and no screws
Rather than liberate Bandera-stan with ease back in 2014 or so.
But attacking Ukrainian soldiers in their barracks with cruise missiles, even if they're engaging in combat while stupidly not vacating such objects - is criminal IMO. Message could have been given with another smaller missile like was done the first time.
Those same soldiers however are using human shields by firing artillery from residential areas
If they hide in the subway network in the larger cities then specialized Alpha squads with tranquilizer gas might prove effective there.
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RTN wrote:Your comprehension skills remain poor despite the fact that you live in the West. That's why you read things that were never mentioned.Werewolf wrote:So now you are resorting to more obvious trolling?
You believe that ambush tactics with modern ATGM's western or eastern is only effective against Russian tanks?
The complete lack of cage armor (leave aside APS) on Russian armored formation shows the absolute lack of planning and resources. No wonder so many Russian MBTs, IFVs were effectively neutralized with ATGMs and that too indigenous Ukranian ones.
Loitering munitions like switchblade will only make things worse for the Russians.
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Werewolf wrote:RTN wrote:Your comprehension skills remain poor despite the fact that you live in the West. That's why you read things that were never mentioned.Werewolf wrote:So now you are resorting to more obvious trolling?
You believe that ambush tactics with modern ATGM's western or eastern is only effective against Russian tanks?
The complete lack of cage armor (leave aside APS) on Russian armored formation shows the absolute lack of planning and resources. No wonder so many Russian MBTs, IFVs were effectively neutralized with ATGMs and that too indigenous Ukranian ones.
Loitering munitions like switchblade will only make things worse for the Russians.
Please do not start about educational systems of East versus West, the current political situation shows who is blessed by western school systems and live style has a high disregard for sketpicism, logical and ctritical thinking and right out masochistic approach to everything as Black and White, while never being on the "dark side". You indeed have something in common of the western subject like Arseitide I was referencing a few dozen pages back.
You already got your little bum served by FP and Garry, but I can do it, too.
You enjoying some minor isolated incidents of losses of russian armor to planned ambushes. Any advancing military is always under the risk of ambushes and if you stick long enough around we will have this exact discussion for a scenario of Serbia attacking Kosovo with western Support, but in the mean time, I suggest to keep the trolling low, because I really want to stick it to you once you western tanks get destroyed in the same manner. The difference is I am not lacking the knowledge to understand the hardship any advancing army has and guerilla warfare is indeed the only solution a weaker force has to stick to.
This entire operation is certainly not as bad planned as your western puppet M&Ms are trying to tell you. You would take great effort for educational purposes and development of critical thinking, if you would listen to what the East has to say. The difference between most of the users on this forum and you is, that we either speak russian or are open to information from more than one side, getting a good impression of the political bubbles that have been created.
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