Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7

Hole wrote:
Kramatorsk

max steel wrote:Why Russia hasn't entered Kiev yet ? Are they suffering heavy casualties ?

Ukraine isn't turning out to be like Georgia for Russians.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Massive strikes on the Kramatorsk airfield, which AFAIK is the largest Ukrainian base in the Donetsk region. It's been struck before, but not to this extent. Hard to tell what ordnance it is, but the blasts are huge and there are Russian jets seen and heard in the air, so probably heavy bombs (500kg/1000lbs+).

Saw something flash by on Twitter earlier, but can't find it now. Some U.S. official saying they recorded 300 Russian air force sorties that operated unimpeded over a large part of Ukraine in the past 24hrs, but the Russians "still don't have air superiority", according to him.

We saw yesterday that they fly drones over Kiev unimpeded, and that they now conduct heavy airstrikes in broad daylight on Ukrainian bases. We also know that Ukraine has had zero manned aviation in the air for the past week or so, as they get instantly shot down, and that they lose 5-10 drones a day, and there hasn't been any Bayraktar footage for almost two weeks.

What is "air superiority" then?

diabetus wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Massive strikes on the Kramatorsk airfield, which AFAIK is the largest Ukrainian base in the Donetsk region. It's been struck before, but not to this extent. Hard to tell what ordnance it is, but the blasts are huge and there are Russian jets seen and heard in the air, so probably heavy bombs (500kg/1000lbs+).

Saw something flash by on Twitter earlier, but can't find it now. Some U.S. official saying they recorded 300 Russian air force sorties that operated unimpeded over a large part of Ukraine in the past 24hrs, but the Russians "still don't have air superiority", according to him.

We saw yesterday that they fly drones over Kiev unimpeded, and that they now conduct heavy airstrikes in broad daylight on Ukrainian bases. We also know that Ukraine has had zero manned aviation in the air for the past week or so, as they get instantly shot down, and that they lose 5-10 drones a day, and there hasn't been any Bayraktar footage for almost two weeks.

What is "air superiority" then?

Who said this about 300 strikes?

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
His words meaning something whether you think so or not he has the power to make it happen, the issues is getting him to that point and what if he IS at that point, do the russians just ignore and carry on

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:

max steel wrote:Why Russia hasn't entered Kiev yet ? Are they suffering heavy casualties ?

Ukraine isn't turning out to be like Georgia for Russians.

Ukrainian army is 200,000 strong. It's not a parade sized force that Georgia has.

In Europe only Germany, France, UK and Turkey have stronger armies.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:I think they are prepping to bring Odessa back home.

Isos wrote:

max steel wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Is this a serious question?

Yes. I want to know why Russia isn't going full offensive. Any tactical reasons or are they suffering heavy casualties ?

Even if I think you are trolling I will answer seriously.

Russia is trying to not hurt civilians from the stat. If they want to go full offensive they will first try to remove as many civilians from the cities as possible.

In Mariupol this what happened. Thry evacuated the civilians and are now bombing the shit out of the nazi groups there.

Taking a cities while trying to minimoze civilian casualities is impossible. Taking cities require a huge firepower because ebemy is hiding in buildings, you need to target civilian properties, where civilians are, to win such battles.

This is the reason why they aren't taking cities easily.


If it was german or polish cities, they would have been leveled in two days. A 2S7 203mm shell can destroy buildings easily. 500kg air dropped bombs too. A batterie of Msta-S can also do huges damages, as well as incendiary rpg like Shmel. A small city can be wiped out in two days with such munitions pretty easily.

Mir wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
His words meaning something whether you think so or not he has the power to make it happen, the issues is getting him to that point and what if he IS at that point, do the russians just ignore and carry on

Interesting because Zelenski won the election in a landslide because he promised to stop the war in the east. Peace was off the table pretty quickly after his election. In fact today we have a major conflict on our hands because he couldn't keep to the Minsk 2 agreement. Not very trustworthy in my book.