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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:03 pm
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
flamming_python Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:03 pm
Dr.Snufflebug wrote:There are reports that barracks in Konstantinovka were hit a while ago, with causalties again well above 200. The Ukrainians have supposedly cordoned off a huge area around it and forbids any one from bringing any cameras etc to the site, so it will take some time to verify. They are very, very quiet in general, actually, which suggests things aren't going too well.
Meanwhile, there are strikes going on outside Odessa. Possibly those Kalibrs, but other things may be at work as well.
Remember that they struck some radars and comm centers with Bastion-P a while back. I think they are prepping to bring Odessa back home.
Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:
There was lots of talk about Russia "losing the information war". Of course it was exagerrated.
But Westerners really struggled to get beyond the sickly "pr" of the Americans.
I was looking for a single source that might list all the key positions held by Azov, Aidar and similar filth.
Unfortunately I couldn't find it.
Such a webpage would have HUGEEEEEE significance in an "information war", especially if it had footnotes ie sources certifying the info.
Similarly a page listing all the major persecutions of proRussians eg killings, language laws, political bans etc would be hugely powerful.
Does anyone know of such a webpage?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:12 pm
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magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:16 pm
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flamming_python wrote:
Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
WHat
That is better also to those lunatics. They won't know what hit them.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
miketheterrible Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:35 pm
Urluber wrote:flamming_python wrote:
Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
WHat
That is better also to those lunatics. They won't know what hit them.
I hope he leaves Russia to Ukraine. Told you, guys a piece of shit.
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FP, it's not putin who is making the military decisions, it's the generals and war planners. Murderers are the cowardly bastards who killed the eldery and children of donbass intentionally. I have seen videos where they hang a man and his pregnant wife, another where a man is nailed to a cross and crucified. Putin has made many mistakes, but this operation is not one of them. Its the clown who is the murderer, jacked up by the western bs, false promises, they used that idiot, trying to make him and Ukraine into a counter weight to Russia.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
miketheterrible Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:39 pm
psg wrote:FP, it's not putin who is making the military decisions, it's the generals and war planners. Murderers are the cowardly bastards who killed the eldery and children of donbass intentionally. I have seen videos where they hang a man and his pregnant wife, another where a man is nailed to a cross and crucified. Putin has made many mistakes, but this operation is not one of them. Its the clown who is the murderer, jacked up by the western bs, false promises, they used that idiot, trying to make him and Ukraine into a counter weight to Russia.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
Don't waste your time. FP is a Ukrop. Pretty fucking obvious at this point.
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flamming_python wrote:Dr.Snufflebug wrote:There are reports that barracks in Konstantinovka were hit a while ago, with causalties again well above 200. The Ukrainians have supposedly cordoned off a huge area around it and forbids any one from bringing any cameras etc to the site, so it will take some time to verify. They are very, very quiet in general, actually, which suggests things aren't going too well.
Meanwhile, there are strikes going on outside Odessa. Possibly those Kalibrs, but other things may be at work as well.
Remember that they struck some radars and comm centers with Bastion-P a while back. I think they are prepping to bring Odessa back home.
Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
Seriously ?
I have 0 experience in military but I would never sleep in an official military base during a war.
That's a main target.
You can't blame anyone for this but the soldiers themselves. Just camp outside in the forest.
I'm surprised they are still full of weapons and soldiers after nearly a month of cruise missiles flying above their heads. At the first sight that a big country is going to invade you, you empty the bases and deploy them on the field and hide as much as you can. That's some basics.
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this could just be paranoia, but it does happen. there's a whole information structure set up where locals can report the location of AA, artillery, fuel/ammunition depots or troop movements to the russian side via anonymous telegram bots. especially when hidden in civilian areas
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The local population in Kramatorsk informed the Russian army of the location of the Ukrainian troops, which was later destroyed by missiles. Message from the Mayor of Kramatorsk
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General Maxim Marchenko is the former commander of the Nazi Aidar Battalion which were responsible for the Odessa fire massacre in 2014. twitter.com/spriter99880/s…
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
Dr.Snufflebug Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:54 pm
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this could just be paranoia, but it does happen. there's a whole information structure set up where locals can report the location of AA, artillery, fuel/ammunition depots or troop movements to the russian side via anonymous telegram bots. especially when hidden in civilian areas
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The local population in Kramatorsk informed the Russian army of the location of the Ukrainian troops, which was later destroyed by missiles. Message from the Mayor of Kramatorsk
There are unconfirmed reports of several people already having been summarily executed in Kramatorsk over suspected collaboration of this nature.
I've seen two videos by civilians near Kramatorsk basically cheering on the Russian air strikes today.
My hunch is that people there simply haven't been too enthusiastic about the situation since VSU took control, and now it shows.
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The US and NATO believe that the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are allegedly preparing to join the Russian operation on the territory of Ukraine, but the Pentagon sees no signs of such activity and preparations.
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The US and NATO believe that the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are allegedly preparing to join the Russian operation on the territory of Ukraine, but the Pentagon sees no signs of such activity and preparations.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
flamming_python Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:01 pm
psg wrote:FP, it's not putin who is making the military decisions, it's the generals and war planners. Murderers are the cowardly bastards who killed the eldery and children of donbass intentionally. I have seen videos where they hang a man and his pregnant wife, another where a man is nailed to a cross and crucified. Putin has made many mistakes, but this operation is not one of them. Its the clown who is the murderer, jacked up by the western bs, false promises, they used that idiot, trying to make him and Ukraine into a counter weight to Russia.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
Why hit soldiers in their barracks?
Just mass murder is what it is. You can deprive them of fuel, ammo, surround them, force them to surrender. Or take them out in the field.
And no not all Ukrainian soldiers are warcriminals. There are many who weren't involved in the ATO, many who are in it as a career, or generally to defend their country, or just conscripts.
This is going to turn more people against Russia, BTW
I'm sorry but I can consciously abide this. The war is bad enough, without now having Nazi tactics such as 'breaking the morale of the enemy' with brutality such as this. Yes I know NATO does it; last thing we need is another NATO or US.
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Randomly executing people will definetely help. But not the side these "mayor" is on. Really sucks if 99% of the population is against you, just ask the german mayors of Paris or Warsaw back in 1944.
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flamming_python wrote:psg wrote:FP, it's not putin who is making the military decisions, it's the generals and war planners. Murderers are the cowardly bastards who killed the eldery and children of donbass intentionally. I have seen videos where they hang a man and his pregnant wife, another where a man is nailed to a cross and crucified. Putin has made many mistakes, but this operation is not one of them. Its the clown who is the murderer, jacked up by the western bs, false promises, they used that idiot, trying to make him and Ukraine into a counter weight to Russia.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
Why hit soldiers in their barracks?
Just mass murder is what it is. You can deprive them of fuel, ammo, surround them, force them to surrender. Or take them out in the field.
And no not all Ukrainian soldiers are warcriminals. There are many who weren't involved in the ATO, many who are in it as a career, or generally to defend their country, or just conscripts.
This is going to turn more people against Russia, BTW
I'm sorry but I can consciously abide this. The war is bad enough, without now having Nazi tactics such as 'breaking the morale of the enemy' with brutality such as this. Yes I know NATO does it; last thing we need is another NATO or US.
Would you feel the same way if soldiers are caught sleeping and killed by artillery in a field position?
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flamming_python wrote:psg wrote:FP, it's not putin who is making the military decisions, it's the generals and war planners. Murderers are the cowardly bastards who killed the eldery and children of donbass intentionally. I have seen videos where they hang a man and his pregnant wife, another where a man is nailed to a cross and crucified. Putin has made many mistakes, but this operation is not one of them. Its the clown who is the murderer, jacked up by the western bs, false promises, they used that idiot, trying to make him and Ukraine into a counter weight to Russia.
The western world uses other countries to do their bidding, they haven't got the back bone for a straight conflict with Russia. The fkr and the orcs military brought it upon themselves. Even now they keep shelling and launching ballistic missiles on the inhabitants of donbass. They allowed them nazis to flourish in their ranks, in government positions, they knew what they was doing. You think they shed even 1 tear for the children they bombed in the school.
Why hit soldiers in their barracks?
Just mass murder is what it is. You can deprive them of fuel, ammo, surround them, force them to surrender. Or take them out in the field.
And no not all Ukrainian soldiers are warcriminals. There are many who weren't involved in the ATO, many who are in it as a career, or generally to defend their country, or just conscripts.
This is going to turn more people against Russia, BTW
I'm sorry but I can consciously abide this. The war is bad enough, without now having Nazi tactics such as 'breaking the morale of the enemy' with brutality such as this. Yes I know NATO does it; last thing we need is another NATO or US.
You're just writing nonsense ... I'll choose words even though I'd write you everything.
A soldier is a soldier and it doesn't matter whether he dies in a war from a bullet, an airplane bomb, an artillery grenade or a cruise missile. You wrote everything with "Putin started the war" - that's where you ended up. Thus you wrote what is in your head ..
FP, you have lost credibility for me and from now on you are on my target.
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This is not just Russia's war, this is just the West's preparation for economic war with the West's greatest enemy - China.
Something must be very rotten in the West when they are in such a hurry.
There are definitely still secret fans of the West on this forum. Here, I sincerely hope that I will experience a moment in which I will see the economic collapse of the West. I don't want anyone to be hungry or thirsty, of course, but I am very angry at the words "Western civilization", "Western values" and "Russia is to blame for everything". Although this has already been posted, let's remind ourselves who is really to blame for everything. .
Something must be very rotten in the West when they are in such a hurry.
There are definitely still secret fans of the West on this forum. Here, I sincerely hope that I will experience a moment in which I will see the economic collapse of the West. I don't want anyone to be hungry or thirsty, of course, but I am very angry at the words "Western civilization", "Western values" and "Russia is to blame for everything". Although this has already been posted, let's remind ourselves who is really to blame for everything. .
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Because in war army barracks are legitimate targets. Not mass murder, they had a choice. They chose to fight, if not then surrender as many other ukr forces have done.
I agree this war is messed up in some ways, but what choice was left, what path??? But the death of these soldiers is only on that fkrs head, he steered his country on this path, he wanted to break ties, he want to join nato, he wanted to join the eu, he sold his ass, for what???? He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it. As for the forces, if they have any sense they should see this is over for them, a lost cause, just a fkn pipe dream of joining nato and should revolt against the cnt and their western masters who are solely responsible for all the deaths. From day one.
I agree this war is messed up in some ways, but what choice was left, what path??? But the death of these soldiers is only on that fkrs head, he steered his country on this path, he wanted to break ties, he want to join nato, he wanted to join the eu, he sold his ass, for what???? He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it. As for the forces, if they have any sense they should see this is over for them, a lost cause, just a fkn pipe dream of joining nato and should revolt against the cnt and their western masters who are solely responsible for all the deaths. From day one.
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miketheterrible wrote:Don't waste your time. FP is a Ukrop. Pretty fucking obvious at this point.
I am still of the opinion that his account got hacked, or his rig got jacked, and the real F_P is either tied up or worse somewhere.
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Nobody was crying for the tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers that the US killed.
During WWII the western allies bombed German civilians and nuked the Japanese civilians. To stop the war.
But Russia is supposed to worry about sleeping Kiev regime soldiers? It is clear by now that they are totally under
control of the Banderites and not even representative of the general population outside of the Lvov region. The
regime has been working hard since 2014 to build a loyal army. The one that was there in 2014 was not loyal and
has been replaced.
During WWII the western allies bombed German civilians and nuked the Japanese civilians. To stop the war.
But Russia is supposed to worry about sleeping Kiev regime soldiers? It is clear by now that they are totally under
control of the Banderites and not even representative of the general population outside of the Lvov region. The
regime has been working hard since 2014 to build a loyal army. The one that was there in 2014 was not loyal and
has been replaced.
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Dr.Snufflebug Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:42 pm
On a lighter note. "Ghost of Kiev" 2022, cinematic trailer:
Extremely silly, but whatever.
Extremely silly, but whatever.
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flamming_python wrote:Dr.Snufflebug wrote:There are reports that barracks in Konstantinovka were hit a while ago, with causalties again well above 200. The Ukrainians have supposedly cordoned off a huge area around it and forbids any one from bringing any cameras etc to the site, so it will take some time to verify. They are very, very quiet in general, actually, which suggests things aren't going too well.
Meanwhile, there are strikes going on outside Odessa. Possibly those Kalibrs, but other things may be at work as well.
Remember that they struck some radars and comm centers with Bastion-P a while back. I think they are prepping to bring Odessa back home.
Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
I know you have enough understanding and knowledge that Putin isn't ordering every fucking military move and missile, but generals and their most trusted advisors for this operation. So why are your emotions and constant bitching about Putin interfering with your logical and critical thinking? Putin and with his advisors just set up the Rules of Engagement and objectives that are critical for this Operation. He is not calling the Missiles on anyone. What is this with you? Did you lose your job because of him? What is your constant irrational beef with him?
This is war and in war people die. Everybody knows that Russia by Putin's orders is fighting with gloves on. I don't see unnecessary violence from Russia's side. The West has constantly to show Ukrainian atrocities and label them as if Russians did it. If Russia was the demon it is portrayed as you would be flooded with real shit and undeniable violence and blood thursty russians.
As a matter of fact so far this is even to me surprisingly disciplined Operation despite that they are fighting nazis. I would expect to see or hear that they abuse POWs like they did in Guantanamo...oohh wait... Russians don't walk with a superiority complex on this god forsaken earth.
That Operation so far has more military deaths than civilian deaths and that is UNSEEN in human history of all war, especially modern wars!
As a former NATO soldier I can say that a death of a military personal weighs less than of a civilian. It may sound harsh but that is what I believe and in all fairness some of the civilians on videos where they beat mauradeurs and are using slurs and slogans which Nazis use, there is where I would not regret shooting such civilians. The only difference is that this nazis are unarmed, but Nazi armed or unarmed is a legitimate target to me. Of course that would be counter productive.
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Look at this mental case who has more sympathy for Neonazis than the Russian-speaking people they've been torturing and killing for 8 years straight, but it's fine, the Saker has finally allowed us to accurately diagnose this escaped mental patient for future reference.flamming_python wrote:Putin you fking murderer
What the hell is this. Flying machines of death against sleeping troops. Better leave them to deploy and fight them in open battle.
But no, Putin wants a conclusion and to "break morale". Maybe he shouldn't have started this war in the first place.
http://thesaker.is/the-many-great-coming-outs-triggered-by-the-war-in-the-ukraine/The 6th columnists. Ruslan Ostashko calls them the “emo-Marxists”, which is a good expression which I shall adopt. These are also called “hurray patriots” or “turbo patriots”. They blame Putin for being weak, sold out to the West, corrupt and dishonest. They also oppose Putin’s ideology (patriotism instead of nationalism, and economic liberalism) and for decades now they are the ones who say 1) Putin has sold out or 2) Putin is about to sell out 3) all is lost. For them a “Putin victory” in the Ukraine would be way WORSE than the total defeat of Russia by the West. Thus they wrap themselves in the flag of patriotism, but in reality they are what Russians call “defeatists” (пораженцы).
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