https://t.me/milinfolive/79461Lurk83 wrote:Alligator class struck at berdyansk port. What a debacle.
Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7
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Lurk83 wrote:Alligator class struck at berdyansk port. What a debacle.
Nah just bad luck
Volodymyr Rogov, a member of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, reports https://t.me/vrogov that the fire in the port of Berdyansk, which led to damage to ships, began after the Tochka-U missile was shot down by air defense systems over the port , the wreckage of which fell in the port and caused a fire, which led to the detonation of ammunition, which, apparently, led to damage to the BDK 1171 of the project, which, according to reports (photo and video not yet), was sunk at the quay wall. Details, I believe, will appear during the day.
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mnrck wrote:Be strong.auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
My condolences. Every word is superfluous here, only you know your sorrow.
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auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
My deepest condolences for your loss Auslander.
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Can it be raised and put back into service?gc3762 wrote:Lurk83 wrote:Alligator class struck at berdyansk port. What a debacle.
Nah just bad luck
Volodymyr Rogov, a member of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, reports https://t.me/vrogov that the fire in the port of Berdyansk, which led to damage to ships, began after the Tochka-U missile was shot down by air defense systems over the port , the wreckage of which fell in the port and caused a fire, which led to the detonation of ammunition, which, apparently, led to damage to the BDK 1171 of the project, which, according to reports (photo and video not yet), was sunk at the quay wall. Details, I believe, will appear during the day.
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auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
So sad to hear of these events Auslander.
My deepest condolenscences and prayers to you and your family.
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auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
I am sorry for your loss.
I recently became a father so I do not even want to imagine what you are going through.
Condolences to you and to your wife.
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My heart sinks for you Auslander. I am so sorry. I will pray for you and your familyauslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
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He provided information regarding all persons involved in conducting sabotage activities on the territory of Donbass.
Also, the surrendered SBU officer reported on terrorist attacks planned by Azov militants in Lviv against the diplomatic missions of the United States and other countries.
The Kiev regime plans to present attacks on diplomatic facilities as an attack by the Russian military
https://t.me/voenacher/12554
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Auslander, my condolences for your loss.
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How the hell do ukrainians have so many TB-2s? It doesnt seem possible. Judging by russian reports, theyve shot down up to 20-30 TB2s. How did ukraine ev en afford that many?
Who said they payed for any of them?
I would expect EU and HATO operators of those and oher drone types would be handing over their samples... it is easier to hide than S-300 or MiG-29 transfers... of course MANPADS and AT weapons are being handed over too in large numbers and are being captured in large numbers.
1) from geopolitical point of view Russia claimed back Ukraine to their orbit. Now USSR 2.0 has big chance to materialize. Note Brzeziski (aka old condom) claimed that Russia never return to USSR level without Ukraine.
Russia is going to clear the CIA and Nazis out of the Ukraine... well they are not much different... and then they are going to mostly leave after the locals have elections and set up structures for them to operate in the future. The only part of the Ukraine that will be part of the Russian federation is the Crimea which was always Russian anyway... the rest will be autonomous regions that will be self governed and will likely be truly neutral with trade with Russia being their main source of income I suspect because if they are not hostile to Russia then the EU and HATO wont give them a cent or the time of day.
There will likely be a part of the Ukraine that is pro EU and pro HATO but it might just get absorbed by Poland again... I doubt Russia will care very much about those parts as long as they vote for it themselves.
Brzzesezzzzski is a fucking moron, Russia is already at the level of the old Soviet Union and without the Ukraine... this is not Russia seizing the Ukraine for itself, this is breaking its neighbour and brother out of a cult... they don't want them to come and stay with them afterwards.
To all who say no no no Soviet Union I might ask: then no no for European Union? Or United States Of A.
An economic or political union would be fine, but it has taken a lot of effort for Russia to get where it is now.... it does not need baggage to leech its energy and resources and power.
Let Ukraine find its own future...
3) Ukraine was independent country so it remains. Perhaps federal yet independent. If it will be dependent on Russia now like previously to USA. Now is bad and then was good?
Its new relations with Russia will be purely open and free trade... there wont be charity, but lots of Russians see Ukraine as a brother still so there will be that.
[quote]So though it will slow down Russian economy for some years then Russia can start growing pretty fast. Without leftovers of 90s, western living elites and sucking money from Russia. Western bound economy, EU having influence of juridical systems, ot western NGOs ...Definitely it will be cleared. In fact it is in making now. /quote]
The best thing about this is the separation from the west of Russia by the west... they have been building up to this for a long time but now they are having to follow through... time for Russia to realise the reason the rest of the world has not progressed and developed as fast as the west has is because the west retards the growth and development of any country that might become a rival... that means trade with Russia and China and India and other countries wont retard growth.... a lot of westerners are shocked at how backward some countries actually are when they visit them but equally there are lot of places that surprise them too at how modern and advanced they are too... that is going to become normal with real investment and trade and development for the rest of the world.
Ironically the rich west got rich by making the best profit at the expense of its trade partner... trade with Russia and China will mean profit and growth and development for the rest of the world too... a successful China does not damage Russia and a successful Russia does not damage China, it is the west that seeks to keep everyone else down and weak and thinking they need the west to develop and progress, when in actual fact it is the west that retards that growth and development through its own actions and practises.
What are the odds that Ukraine can perform somewhat successful counter attacks? The Western media has already started talking about this nonsense, but how realistic is it in the near future with Western weaponry and intelligence that they continue to get?
It is like the US operations in Afghanistan... if the enemy forms up to meet the friendly forces to engage them they get hit by air power or artillery or both, if they remain in pockets then they get destroyed in small groups, and if they withdraw then airpower mops them up as they move.
Stingers are no better than old model Iglas, and the ATGMs, the Ukrainian missiles are probably better but they don't have enough of them.
Western signals can be monitored too...
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RIP. Your children were heroes.auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
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May God be with you and your kin!auslander wrote: We have two sons and two daughters serving in DLNR. Our son has died of his wounds. One daughter is badly wounded, the orcs mortared her field hospital again despite it being clearly labeled as a Hospital. She will not survive, the orc wounded soldier she was protecting with her body will live but will lose an arm. My wife is beyond distraught, we have lost half our children in one day.
Nanny has arrived to take care of our four leg children and our youngest little girl. We have armed guards outside our gates. Media have been informed that our street is forbidden to them and the usual 'no photos no interviews' gig is in effect. Neighbor women are sitting with VCO all night. Computer will stay on for Nanny. I will not be here until after our two children are brought to us and put to rest. Funerals will be private with full military honors. Needless to say, our youngest girl will not be in school for the time being.
Auslander out.
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GarryB wrote:
How the hell do ukrainians have so many TB-2s? It doesnt seem possible. Judging by russian reports, theyve shot down up to 20-30 TB2s. How did ukraine ev en afford that many?
Who said they payed for any of them?
I would expect EU and HATO operators of those and oher drone types would be handing over their samples... it is easier to hide than S-300 or MiG-29 transfers... of course MANPADS and AT weapons are being handed over too in large numbers and are being captured in large numbers.
The Bayraktars are being shipped from Turkey to Slovakia and from there transferred by land to the airport in Uzhgorod, Ukraine - which is like less than 1km from the border with Slovakia
But since the first couple of weeks I haven't seen any new vids from the Bayraktars, just Russian reports about them shooting them down every other day.
I think Russia cares relatively little about them or at least has reservations about striking an airport so close to the NATO border. Especially as it might be dual-use, and the Bayraktars hidden somewhere in any case.
Some fighters and Su-25 might have been transferred the same way, as they were still flying weeks into the war.
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mnrck wrote:https://t.me/milinfolive/79461Lurk83 wrote:Alligator class struck at berdyansk port. What a debacle.
Maybe Saratov BDK of the 1171 Tapir
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Maybe members/mods would want this thread locked til the end of the day?
Given that one of the forums major members has suffered terrible loss in relation to this conflict in the last day.
I'm not remotely saying what "should" or "shouldn't" happen, just an idea which might be considered appropriate or might not.
Expressing my thoughts out loud I suppose.
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Professionals to get the ships moving out so quick after the hit.
edit: According to additional sources it was an accident:
The fire broke out in the berth fuel storage facilities, according to CCTV footage, and then the fire spread to the property stored on the quay wall and spread to the moored landing craft, which completed unloading.
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