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lancelot wrote:The Leopard 1 has a 105mm rifled gun i.e. an L7 gun.
That is utterly obsolete. It also has like, no armor. You can probably punch a hole through it with an RPG-7.
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Mir wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:[
Depending on how old the leopard 1's are they will either have the 105mm or 120mm gun both used fairly old ammo leopard 1's are pretty much T-55 or T-62 equivalent.
The only leopard 1 that was ever fitted with a 120mm gun was the first experimental prototype for the Leopard 2 but I could be mistaken?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 magnumcromagnon Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:23 am
JohninMK wrote:Mmmmmm
Moon of Alabama
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36m
Three large drones with some 15 liter tanks and sprayers. These do not seem to be for agricultural purpose.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Odin of Ossetia Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:32 am
d_taddei2 wrote:Hole wrote:
Which NATO country did provide this?
I nearly bought a deactivated one a few years ago but only thing put the stoppers on was the cost to ship it. Weight was 65kg+ Inc packaging. I remember reading that once filled with water its weight went up to 67.6kg that's a heavy medium machine gun to carry/push around. Probably still useful for defensive positions but it also shows how desperate they have become using Maxim 1910 machine guns.
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Regular wrote:par far wrote:The Ukrainians are running out of weapons, they are forced to fight with pans pots and utensils.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/41954?single
If you believe their propaganda, then yeah. But most likely they got hit without knowing while making kharcho. Or maybe it's true that only chefs and musicians are left.
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Ukraine is sad: The BBC does not blame Russia, but admits that the attack on the Kramatorsk railway station could have been inflicted by the AFUd_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, kvs, zepia, Hole, Mir and like this post
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 magnumcromagnon Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:45 am
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 flamming_python Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:53 am
Radical Islamists from the Balkans were given the green light to take part in hostilities in Ukraine
As early as March 10, we wrote that the undisputed spiritual leader of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Mustafa Ceric, opposes the radicalization of Muslims in Eastern Europe and being drawn into the conflict in Ukraine. For him, both Recep Erdogan and Ramzan Kadyrov are authorities. Prior to this, Cerich actually approved the participation of the Kadyrovites in a special military operation, while at the same time speaking out against the participation of Islamists from Eastern Europe.
But a month later, neither the call of the European Muslim Forum, nor the request to stay away from the interethnic conflict, unfortunately, is no longer quoted.
The officially stated reason is that the Forum's leadership did not meet the agreed funding deadline and did not transfer a million euros for the implementation of projects.Several heads of cities in Bosnia and Herzegovina made a statement in support of Ukraine.
Such a demarche means only one thing: there is no more official deterrent.
This means that in the near future, in addition to Croatian neo-Nazis, streams of mercenaries from among the Bosnian radicals, who for years have learned to fight as part of local parajamaats, will still pour into Nezalezhnaya.
True, there is an important nuance: the radicals do not know how to fight against a modern regular army and a technologically equipped enemy. Conduct guerrilla operations or act as a DRG - yes. But psychologically, the militants are not ready for a war with a well-equipped regular army.
Therefore, this should be perceived precisely as the introduction of regular reserves to artificially prolong the conflict.
In addition, the participation of radical Islamists on the side of Ukraine is a fat reputational minus for the current authorities in Kyiv in the eyes of the international community and, above all, the Islamic world. And this is important: the authorities of the Independent will incur such reputational costs because of their curators.
The British intelligence network played a key role in these processes. All radical Islamist movements in Eastern Europe are supervised along the lines of Mi-6 and spacer structures. And if for the time being they turned a blind eye to Mustafa Tserich's attempts to play peacemaker and conciliator, now the radicals have been given a "green light".It also means that today the need to prolong the conflict in Ukraine and the potential benefits outweigh the risk of unleashing an inter-Islamic conflict that will affect other countries in the region.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 owais.usmani Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:59 am
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owais.usmani wrote:
Seriously? Like they have to announce that?
Kiev should have completely wiped off the map by now.
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d_taddei2 wrote:
There was an upgrade I think late 1980's where they could put turret from leopard 2 onto leopard 1. Quite a few countries went for it, not sure if Germany did. But the armour is still crap
Ispan wrote:Very interesting article
HOW THE TRAP FOR RUSSIA WAS CREATED AND WHAT WENT WRONG
https://antimaydan.info/2022/04/kak_sozdavalas_lovushka_dlya_rossii_i_chto_poshlo_ne_tak.html
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Mir wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:
There was an upgrade I think late 1980's where they could put turret from leopard 2 onto leopard 1. Quite a few countries went for it, not sure if Germany did. But the armour is still crap
That's news for me - do you know what countries joined this upgrade?
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Podlodka77 Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:16 am
lyle6 wrote:Are these Aca-cia logs yours?Podlodka77 wrote:
d_taddei2 wrote:Mir wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:
There was an upgrade I think late 1980's where they could put turret from leopard 2 onto leopard 1. Quite a few countries went for it, not sure if Germany did. But the armour is still crap
That's news for me - do you know what countries joined this upgrade?
European users o believe I think they called it A5 upgrade which offered an additional add on was the turret. I remember years ago Netherlands did it but didnt say how many. Info on exactly what variants each country has is a bit sketchy.
12. Being offended by the Americans and apparently guessing that he has been played like a sucker, Ze decides to surrender his guts to Putin in order to screw the Americans in return and end the war. Agreements have apparently been reached, and even one step has been taken - Russian troops have been withdrawn from near Kiev. There is information in the Russian media from Medinsky that there is progress in the negotiations.
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No...the Leopard 1 A5 upgrade includes fire control system EMES 18 and the possibility to switch from the 105 mm cannon to the 120 mm smoothbore cannon of the Leopard 2.d_taddei2 wrote:Mir wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:
There was an upgrade I think late 1980's where they could put turret from leopard 2 onto leopard 1. Quite a few countries went for it, not sure if Germany did. But the armour is still crap
That's news for me - do you know what countries joined this upgrade?
European users o believe I think they called it A5 upgrade which offered an additional add on was the turret. I remember years ago Netherlands did it but didnt say how many. Info on exactly what variants each country has is a bit sketchy.
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par far wrote:This question is to the posters that are more educated about geopolitics and more informed about what is happening in the world on a geopolitically level.
We can know that the Russia is winning militarily(despite what the western lying media says), it is not easy, it is hard fought battle but the Russians are winning.
The question I have for posters that are more educated about geopolitics and more informed about what is happening in the world on a geopolitically level.
We have seen what is happening in Pakistan regarding Imran Khan(this is a coup), this happened because Imran Khan was "too pro Russian according to the Muricans".
If Russia wins out right in Ukraine militarily, will this change the stance of world governments and will it be hard to do the mischief things that are happening in Pakistan right now?
We have seen the Solomon Island situation with China, we can some glimpse of it happening.
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Isos wrote:Ukraine has still plenty of t-80 and t-64. They don't need 50 leopard that are shittier. It's all propaganda.
Would be nice if they send them. Just film when you destroy them. It will work good for propaganda purpose.
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